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Regarding your previous asks I also think Griffith retains his emotions! And there’s even that scene that implies his emptiness and loneliness in the Falconia of the Millennium. So I’ve started thinking if he has maintained his emotions only towards Guts because of their terrifying intensity. This made me wonder something, whether he feels any sort of remorse for what he did to Casca. Do you think that’s possible?

Yeah I think it’s possible, but it would depend on like… what NGriff’s emotions even are I guess. If like you suggest he has residual feelings for Guts because they were so life-alteringly strong when he was a human and Guts survived the sacrifice, then his capacity to care enough about anyone else to feel remorse is probably long gone. similarly if it’s just the fetus fucking with him then guilt and remorse is probably totally out of the picture.

I’m really into the idea of NGriff having a full range of unfrozen emotions and just completely repressing them tho. like, if human griffith justified his dirty/cruel actions to himself by telling himself that it would be worth it and he’ll be validated by fate when he achieves his goal (which i think he did but i’m not going to get into it rn bc that’s an upcoming post), then neogriffith can double down on that because he has achieved his goal now and has basically had his entire life and all his actions validated directly by god lol

so even if part of himself has woken up or w/e and is there with his beating heart feeling actual emotions and being horrified at what he’s become, it’d be really easy for him to deny/ignore those feelings because he has divine right, his life was/is dictated by fate and god itself told him everything he does is exactly what’s meant to happen, and therefore he has no reason to feel guilty for anything ever

which has the potential to be a really interesting internal struggle in theory. in practice the fact that the guilt-worthy subject is rape really like, sours it for me lbr, i can only cringe at the prospect of Miura addressing it in the future, but welcome to berserk i guess.

Also if I was going to make a guess about what’s most likely to happen in actual canon, I’d say that NGriff is probably never going to express actual remorse for anything though there may be subtle hints of inner conflict. give or take how much or how little of his feelings end up genuinely being attributed to the patron saint of lazy writing, the fetus.

I always questioned the belief that (apostle = no emotion) cause of the numerous instances with the slug baron, Zodd etc. hell even slan right after griffith is told he’ll never cry again we see her crying. I think its just as you said how he’s become his mask, he’s the ideal version of himself with no struggles but it was when he was struggling that the victories meant something

Yeah totally, even all the way back in the Black Swordsman arc Puck gets his great moment where he calls the Count out on still having human feelings. And oh shit lol you’re right, that never occured to me but Slan wiping away tears like a couple chapters after Griffith is told “this is the crystalization of your last tear shed,” is more than a little suspect. I guess God telling Griffith he’ll never cry again could be less literal and more, you’ll never feel that despair that brought you to this point again, but still, like, the Godhand def have feelings, they’re just very dark/negative ones from what we see.

So idk, maybe we’re supposed to think that by incarnating himself as a flesh and blood person Femto/NeoGriff should’ve lost even those negative emotions for some magical reason, but something went wrong?

Or maybe Femto just believed he was emotionless despite that clearly not being the case, hoped he’d remain “emotionless” even after incarnating himself as a flesh and blood person, predictably turned out to be wrong, and decided to lay all the blame on the fetus so he could ignore his feelings.

tbh I could go for either explanation.

AND YEAH there seemed to be a lot of focus on how easy everything was for NeoGriffith – he barely had to lift a finger to defeat Ganeshka, transform the world, and become an emperor lol, it’s such a strong contrast to human Griffith having to work for his victories and face the possibility of defeat in tense moments, like the Battle of Doldrey was very suspenseful because of that, whereas the war with Ganeshka never had a single moment of suspense, NGriff was never not in control. I def wonder if that theme is going to go somewhere, especially with Guts, whose nickname is “struggler,” in contrast.

you can’t really read anything into it, esp since it’s not even official, but i like how this is phrased lol

not ‘obsession with griffith’ or ‘obsession with revenge’ just ‘obsession’ and then ‘here i am being questioned about him.’ like, his obsession isn’t a what, it’s a who.

i know this will sound weird and i am by no means diminishing guts’ anger, i just wanted to ask, do you think that griffith still harbors resentment towards guts? i was re-reading the hill of the swords and i got depressed bc that’s their last zctual interaction. we don’t fuckin know anything about griffith and how he feels. we just know his heart was beating when he saw guts fighting. is he angry? does he remember the past bitterly? what is your take?

my take is yes, but neogriffith wouldn’t think so.

Like on one hand it’s very ambiguous and up in the air because we get absolutely nothing from his perspective after that one contemplative ‘why am i feeling things?’ moment, but on the other hand 99% of Femto’s screen time was dedicated to being resentfully petty and while NeoGriff might’ve hoped to genuinely have no feelings, that beating heart tells us otherwise, so I can only assume that some of those feelings are resentment.

Like I basically think his feelings now are probably a big unexamined tangle of

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that he is absolutely not going to acknowledge to himself until he’s forced to.

And possibly his emotions are dulled depending on whether NGriff only has some capacity for
emotion but not as much as he did as a human, but tbh I like to think he
feels just as much now and is just a lot better at ignoring/dismissing
it due to being a godly thing on another plane of awareness. And like, the wonderful symbolism of becoming the mask fits too – like his perfect leader image was partly how he buried and denied his emotions as a human (eg see his “it’s nothing,” to Casca in the river), so now that he’s an embodiment of that perfection it just works for me to think that he’s better at denying/repressing his feelings, but they’re still there.

Also I like to think that he got a petty kick out of being the one to leave Guts behind this time, after the Hill of Swords reunion.

a tonally inappropriate griffith playlist

everyone’s been sharing their griffith songs with me so I wanted to return the favour but like, ridiculously.

(note: tonally inappropriate doesn’t mean a song is bad just… out of place in my subjective opinion, and some of these aren’t that out of place so much as they’re just cliche or they remind me of middle school or w/e, but idc it’s not that serious)

Anything But Ordinary – Avril Lavigne

is it enough to love?

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I Won’t Say I’m In Love – Susan Egan

try to keep it hidden, honey we can see right through you

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I Have a Dream – ABBA

i have a dream, a song to sing
to help me cope with anything

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Open the Gate – No Doubt

hiding all your feelings
behind your barricade

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Sweet Dreams – Eurythmics

some of them want to abuse you
some of them want to be abused

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Lucky – Britney Spears 

lost in an image, in a dream
but there’s no one there to wake her up

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Can’t Make You Love Me – Britney Spears

is it my life or the things i do?

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Iris – Goo Goo Dolls

i just want you to know who i am

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Piece of Dirt – They Might Be Giants

i find myself haunted by a spooky man named me
i wish that i could jump out of my skin

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Put Your Dreams Away – Frank Sinatra

put your dreams away for another day
and i will take their place in your heart

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Could’ve Gone Mad – Poe

i’m so glad that you decided to come

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Mr. Brightside – The Killers

coming out of my cage and i’ve been doing just fine

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Total Eclipse of the Heart – Bonnie Tyler

i don’t know what to do and i’m always in the dark
we’re living in a powder keg and giving off sparks

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Gunning Down Romance – Savage Garden

i’m gonna take these broken wings
and learn to fly

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Orange Colored Sky – Natalie Cole

cause the ceiling fell in and the bottom fell out
i went into a spin and i started to shout

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Shadows of the Night – Pat Benatar

surrender all your dreams to me tonight
they’ll come true in the end

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Are You Satisfied? – Marina & the Diamonds

i was pulling out my hair
the day i cut the deal

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Adieu – Emily Bindiger

and i see in your eyes that you really weren’t suprised at me

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Under the Water – Jewel

under the water
i hear who we really are

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Stronger – Britney Spears

my loneliness ain’t killing me no more

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I Will Survive – Gloria Gaynor

aren’t you the one who tried to break me with goodbye?

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Are You Happy Now – Michelle Branch

and i know it’s just no use
when all your lies become your truths

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Mamma Mia – ABBA

mamma mia, here i go again
my my, how can i resist you?

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You’re the Storm – The Cardigans

cross my borders and kill the calm
bear your fangs and burn my wings

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Delusions of Grandeur – Pet Shop Boys

because they said, “we don’t understand you,”
and i want revenge

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woah woah woah

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“They obtain the power of gods!”

that wasn’t in Griffith’s chapter 8 monologue.

like is this one of those things that Miura had changed between magazine publication and volume publication because it was too on the nose? and if so did he forget by this chapter? shit should i assume griffith said it or not?

if i assume he said it there are three possibilities:

1. griffith is speaking metaphorically, ie people who have the power to change the world may as well be gods.

2. griffith is speaking literally and somehow only he knows that sometimes people become gods. (the “fortune teller” that sold him the behelit maybe? does that make griffith the kind of weirdo who genuinely believes wild shit salesmen tell him?)

3. it’s generally accepted knowledge/myth/belief in berserk’s universe that sometimes people become gods and griffith is referencing that belief system.

like i’m obviously going for option #1 here since it’s the most reasonable, but still lol. and tbf griffith believes strongly in fate and clearly wants to believe in higher powers, so it’s not beyond the realm of plausibility that he’s speaking literally.

the story of a dude symbolically cutting out his own heart because the vulnerability of being in love with his bff is too painful, except it doesn’t quite work as perfectly as he’d hoped and now they’re mortal enemies, is the perfect narrative

like there is no story i want to immerse myself in more than that story

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i was thinking cry for judas by the mountain goats would also make just like a good general berserk amv

omg yeah what a perfect song choice. damn now i really want to see this, it’s like an overview of the golden age (and beyond tbh but we’re stuck with the golden age for amvs)

yea that was exactly what i was thinking too like. post eclipse guts is good but theres no good footage 

yeah it really sucks, i have so many good potential guts songs but they’d all require post eclipse footage. songs that just feel like golden age guts are hard to come by at least for me.

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i mean why not both but i was initially thinking griffith. itd be easier to do with just the ovas at least. i have to relisten now i guess!!!

pure griffith pov would probably be a lot easier now that i think about it, i feel like guts’ pov should incorporate dark post-eclipse fated-enemies stuff, which (imo) would be really fun with the upbeat tone of the song, but sadly, 2016/17 animation lol

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Yeah, the amv definitely would need post and pre eclipse footage but the different styles would be jarring. What are your thoughts on manga panels in amvs. My other song idea for Guts is Sound of Silence Distrubed cover. 🙂

hmm I think manga panels + animation could work, depending on how it’s done. i’d want to have it divided into sections if i was doing it myself, where you have animation with say one part of the music/story and manga panels during another distinct part of the music/story. but that’s just me, i’m sure there are plenty of ways to incorporate it and make it flow.

ooh the sound of silence + guts is an interesting combination. that cover especially has a good mix of contemplative but like, loud lol, it seems like it would work for guts’ moodiness.

i can’t handle how strong the bitter exes vibe is in the black swordsman arc. it’s lethal

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not including most of the hit-you-over-the-head count/wife parallels

like is this not 200% the set up for a doomed flashback romance

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I always associate the Lana Cover of Once Upon A Dream with griffguts but I don’t know how to make amvs…��

if you have the software available you should try, it’s a lot of fun and the world needs more berserk amvs! it takes a bit of getting used to but depending on the program you use it can be fairly straightforward, and there are youtube tutorials and stuff! imo the hardest part is all the technical bs, dealing with frame rates and aspect ratios and file types etc, but it’s worth powering thru if it’s something that interests you.

though for once upon a dream idk if it would work because i feel like it’d need post eclipse and pre eclipse footage and combining 2016/7 berserk animation with ova or 90s anime animation would make it stick out like a sore thumb. tho on the other hand if the golden age is used flashback style the different character models/animation would be less jarring and might enhance the feeling of separation… idk it would be worth experimenting with and could be pretty awesome.

When can we expect your new posts about Griffith? I am already excited and look at your blog everyday if it is already up…No pressure. Just a question.^^

well i’m flaky and can’t guarantee anything, but the last part is coming together. i said i’d finished it a while ago and just needed to edit it, but that wasn’t taking into account the fact that my “finished” fourth part was barely more than an outline lol 😡 ugh @ past me. i’d say a week or less, to give myself enough leeway to procrastinate more lol. i could probably finish it in an evening, but yk, it’s hard to predict when the next time i’ll feel like spending an evening writing it will be. And I work tonight so 😡 again.

i’m glad you’re excited for it! hopefully it’ll be worth the wait 🙂

when in times of doubt remember that miura wrote recently ‘now that i finally let go of my objection i am being asked abt him’. griffith and guts both talk as if they’re each other’s exes tbh. personally I am still cautious of the Het but still, seeing ppl saying ”guts has been through so much omg their reunion will be moving’ are making me laugh because i don’t think miura would ever do that. so yeah i am holding to that quote as if it’s a life line

This is true and lol I did love that moment in the story, it was such a bitter ex thing to think

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Also love that their relationship is so epic random warlocks on an island in the middle of nowhere know about their “profound connection” lol.

And yeah I’m really not expecting a happy reunion between Guts and Casca. It just seems like it would be out of place not just considering how emphasized Casca’s mistrust of him has been (even in Casca’s dream a chapter ago Farnese and Schierke were worried about dog Guts destroying the casket himself while in beast mode lol), but also considering the ominious build up.

And like, in general, Miura just does not seem like the type to go a straightforward happy romance route. That wasn’t their relationship back pre-Eclipse, and there are so many complicating factors that it would make no sense for it to be their relationship now.

tbh if they did have a happy reunion where Casca forgives him and then they make out or w/e that would be the biggest sign that she’s about to die for real or something lbr, which would just be the cherry on top of the suck sundae.

Anyway yeah I’m cautiously optimistic overall I guess, like you. Ty for this ask!

so i’ve been having a hell of a time with part 4 of this griffith thing, it just didn’t seem to be coming together, writer’s block was getting me, i was starting to question whether i was wrong about everything despite parts 1-3 flowing smoothly, and do you know what my fucking breakthrough was???

i hadn’t been emphasizing griffguts enough. literally, i couldn’t piece it together because i was trying to talk mainly about other aspects of his relationship with guts, and griffith’s narrative literally just straight up doesn’t make sense unless a) he’s head over heels in love and b) that’s the most important, driving factor

anyway i still have to re-write it so who knows it might still give me trouble, but now for the first time i’m actually eager to get into this last part instead of dreading hacking away at it because i kept feeling like i was missing something lmfao

jillresia:

god sometimes i forget how real the griffguts chemistry is. From the moment they met they were interested in eachother and wanted to b recognized by eachother and everything else fell by the wayside. even if it wasnt immediate love or even affection tjere was a connection. thats crazy

Right? Like you got Griffith silent and intense while ignoring people talking to him, watching Guts from a distance.

And you have Guts’ iconic first look after Griffith takes off his helmet.

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Could it be him maybe accepting that for NGriff, his old dream is taking priority over his previous love for guts, which guts was eventually aware of?
Not necessarily buying into NGriff’s hype himself, but not wanting to overcomplicate Griffith to his friends? His friends who didn’t even know he knew Griffith?

Yeah I definitely don’t think he’d start getting into all the complicated stuff wrt that relationship with his friends, but the line “he hasn’t changed” is just guts’ thoughts, not something he said outloud, suggesting Guts believes it:

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and that’s a hell of a loaded statement for guts to be thinking to himself especially with the immediate visual reference to NeoGriffith’s look back at him as he says “nothing has changed.”

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It could be that he’s just referring purely to what his dream entails, ie a kingdom, but then again, even then, human Griffith only said he wanted a kingdom, he didn’t say anything about taking over the world or building an empire, which is what they’re talking about now.