




Man takes up the sword in order to shield the small wound in his heart sustained in a far-off time beyond remembrance.
mostly berserk meta. i'm into berserk mainly for griffguts and i'm a huge fan of griffith.





Man takes up the sword in order to shield the small wound in his heart sustained in a far-off time beyond remembrance.
I assume you mean pouty lips lol
idk which panel you mean but i’ll take your word for it
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replied to your post “Ok, this is my long and thorough explanation of how Guts’ decision to…”
While I agree that leaving behind the Hawks/his family in pursuit of proving his “worthiness” was misguided, I’m hesitant to call it a “mistake.” Living (and dying) as an accessory solely for the benefit of someone else isn’t particularly good or healthy.
I’d agree if Guts’ life with the Hawks was ever framed as “living and dying as an accessory solely for the benefit of someone else,” but it isn’t.
I assume you’re referencing this:

Which is Griffith’s answer when Guts asks why Griffith risked his life to save him.
Basically Griffith denying any emotional investment in Guts by emphasizing his role as a military leader who sends people to their deaths regularly.
Guts calls him out on basically lying here three years later, in the post-Zodd conversation.

So yeah, while this is nice foreshadowing for the Eclipse, it’s explicitly not how Griffith actually feels wrt Guts, and Guts figures that out.
Guts was never just an accessory to Griffith’s dream, and there was a point where Guts knew that perfectly well, before the overheard Promrose Hall speech fucked it all up lol.
And just to add a few more things:
even if Griffith really did see Guts as just another soldier who could help him achieve his dream, I don’t think it would necessarily be unhealthy for Guts to stay with the Hawks. Being a mercenary is a line of work, and being a mercenary with the Hawks is a line of work with much greater rewards, much greater camraderie and friendship, and a greater sense of purpose than being a mercenary with any other band. Guts comments early on about how the Hawks are different than any other mercenary band he’s fought with because they’re happier, because they have a personal stake in Griffith’s dream.
Guts doesn’t particularly care about being raised into the peerage, or even about the idea of Griffith becoming a King beyond thinking Griffith is “absolutely incredible” for having such a lofty dream and actually getting close to achieving it, but he does care about his friends, and during the three years in which he presumably felt like he was mainly just doing a job, he was happier than he’s ever been before or since.
So imo it would still be the case that Guts would find greater personal fulfillment in a mercenary band full of happy people who love him as a friend and respect him as a leader, rather than wandering around alone crossing swords with anyone who looks strong – specifically, it’s implied in a flashback during the Wyald fight, monsters like Zodd:

Again, it’s another little piece of sad irony, knowing how Guts spent two years after the Eclipse.
And lol I know this response is getting long, sorry, but w/e I love talking about this shit so one more last little thing:
Griffith also doesn’t see any of the Hawks as just accessories to his dream, let alone Guts. He cares about the Hawks more than probably any other mercenary leader.
I mean this is a dude who prostituted himself to a pedophile to prevent
as many deaths in the line of duty as possible, and self-harmed in a
river while monologuing about how he has to win for the sake of the men
who’ve died for his dream.
He represses the hell out of his guilt and emotional attachment to them, because they die a lot and if he didn’t he’d be a wreck, but the very fact that he could offer them up as sacrifices means they were all extremely important to him:


I think it really just comes down to how you interpret Miura’s facial expressions but to me this looks tender and loving.
It’s Griffith’s last glimpse of Guts, after choosing to sacrifice him but before he starts shedding pieces of himself and transforming, and seeing that love in his eyes just makes this moment for me lol.
He’s content with his decision, there’s no anguish there or second guessing or wishing it could’ve been another way. It’s maybe even relishing this last glimpse of Guts, and of being able to feel that love without it also like, causing him pain, because he knows this is the end of it.
I mean I’m just reading really into it because this is how I see Griffith and his feelings at the end of his story, but I think it fits the image.
I think your interpretation is fair and makes sense, like, he does look pleased and I think he is, but the look in his eye is just so damn tender, yk? Like he’s saying goodbye, without malice, and just drinking in the last sight of Guts he’ll ever have. I think love is definitely part of this moment.
Ok, this is my long and thorough explanation of how Guts’ decision to leave the Hawks was ultimately shown to be a mistake.
I’ve been kind of meaning to write this for a while because I tend to take this statement as read in a lot of my meta and I wanted to have something to point to for the sake of clarification whenever necessary lol. Also jsyk this isn’t quite as long a read as it looks bc there are a lot of illustrative images.
And before I get into it I just want to make something clear: when I say it was a mistake I’m not saying that it’s a decision that reflects badly on Guts. It reflects many of Guts’ issues, and it stems largely from growing up with an abusive father figure, but based on the information Guts had at the time, and based on his personality and his values it was a reasonable decision to make from his perspective.
It’s just one that he ended up wholeheartedly regretting for very good reasons.
This basically rests on three premises:
1. Guts was happy and felt personally fulfilled with the Hawks.
2.
Guts chose to leave for one reason and one reason only: Griffith’s Promrose Hall speech made him feel inadequate.
3. Griffith’s speech absolutely didn’t reflect either his actual feelings about Guts or a particularly worthwhile life philosophy, and eventually Guts comes to understand this.
So let’s demonstrate the first part, starting from when Guts joined the Hawks.


Cue the waterfight scene with Griffith. And afterwards:





Then Rickert knocks him off the step and congratulates him on already having ten men under his command.




Guts is happy with the Hawks. After only a week with them he’s already chilling out about being touched, he’s feeling accepted, he’s responsible for others and he’s rising to that responsibility. He reflects on the night he killed Gambino and fled his first home, thinks “I still don’t have an answer to that question [of where am I going?]…” but then when Rickert congratulates him he thinks, “for now…”
For now, he’ll make his home with the Hawks. He tells Rickert to call him Guts and their clasped hands get their own panel. He’s forging new relationships and bonds with people, beginning to heal from past trauma, and growing as a person. He’s no longer swinging his sword just to survive, but as part of a unit, to help his friends and comrades survive and thrive too.
Three years later, when Casca accuses him of not changing since he joined them, of not caring about his comrades, he’s incensed.


He’s proud of having changed. He’s proud of his place in the Hawks, of being their raider captain, of Griffith’s faith in him. Casca’s words wound him because he has deep seated insecurities related to being an outsider.





His rivalry with Casca draws these insecurities out but overall he is very happy with the Hawks, he does care about them, and Casca insinuating otherwise pisses him off for good reason.
When Griffith nearly dies saving him from Zodd and then says he did it for no reason and implies he’d do it again without question, Guts like, basically reaches the pinnacle of his life.

And like, it is straightforward textual canon that this is everything Guts has desperately wanted all his life, thanks largely to his big pile of issues stemming from his fucked up childhood:




That is exactly what he has, and more importantly, what he understands and recognizes he has, after this staircase conversation.

When he first joined the Hawks we saw him remember that question he asked himself the night he killed Gambino and ran from his first (shitty) family: “where’m I going?”
After this conversation he remembers that night again:





He’s chosen to replace that first family, the abusive father he killed, the first mercenary band he grew up with, with the Hawks and Griffith. He has an answer to why he’s swinging his sword, and it’s not just to survive – it’s “for his sake.”
For now…
That little “for now” is important. It’s what he thought when he joined the Hawks three years ago, and it’s what he thinks now, because frankly, he is terrible at committment. This is an important part of Guts’ character. He’s slow to trust that others care about him because of his terrible childhood, and he’s very quick to believe he is unloved and unwanted. That “for now,” sets us up for the way one overheard speech makes Guts decide to rebuild his entire life from the ground up.
But hey, for now, he’s happy. He knows he’s cared for, he knows people, particularly Griffith, love and respect and value him. That to Griffith he’s worth risking his life for. He’s ready to dedicate himself to Griffith in turn. This is huge for Guts.
So yeah, he’s content and feels personally fulfilled with the Hawks and Griffith at this point in his life.
But then comes the speech.




This completely wipes away Guts’ assurance that Griffith loves, values, and respects him.
It changes everything for Guts and inarguably informs his choice to leave:



The real question worth asking isn’t why Guts decided to leave the Hawks, but why did one overheard pretentious speech about how Griffith has no friends affect Guts so profoundly that he immediately stopped viewing Griffith as a fellow human who would happily risk his life for him and began seeing him as a distant and perfect godlike figure who Guts would do anything to reach?


Like this speech comes after Griffith has literally died “for [his] sake.” In the encounter with Zodd, Griffith was dead because he instinctively ran into danger to grab Guts personally – it was only an unforseen twist of fate that allowed him to survive. And Guts knows this is significant, which is why he questions him about it, gets his answer, and dedicates himself to Griffith in return.
The speech erases that.
Afterwards, he has this incredibly unsubtle conversation with Casca:






Casca is laying down some basic facts here that add up to a confirmation of everything Guts believed when he said “I’ll wield my sword… for his sake,” on that rooftop.
Guts is the first person Griffith has ever said he wanted. Casca
hoped it was for his strength as an aid for achieving his dream, but
that is clearly not the case since he has nearly sacrificed his life –
and dream, Casca specifies – for Guts twice.
Griffith values Guts even above the dream he’s dedicated his life to, as is thoroughly demonstrated by his actions.
But Guts
completely disregards this. Casca straightforwardly tells him that
Griffith feels some unique and irrational emotions for Guts, and his
actions are proof of that, but Guts never stops to consider that maybe
Griffith’s actions speak louder than his words. At the most, what Casca’s angry monologue might do is give Guts the confidence that he’s capable of becoming Griffith’s friend, and therefore inspires him to leave.
But it certainly doesn’t make him rethink the truth or the value of Griffith’s speech to Charlotte.
I’m not going to get heavily into Griffith’s point of view here, I’ve done that very thoroughly in the second part of this giant thing
for anyone rly curious, but suffice to say his Promrose Hall monologue doesn’t have a
damn thing to do with how Griffith actually feels about Guts lol.
Guts doesn’t fit his weird and narrow definition of friend, Guts is actually far more important to him than this definition leaves room for. A friend is someone who has his own dream and would prioritize it over friendship, allowing Griffith to prioritize his own dream as well – Guts, conversely, has already taken priority over Griffith’s dream when Griffith risked it for him twice.
Griffith isn’t about to consciously admit to himself that his dream is no longer his number one priority, but our trusty commentator of their relationship, Casca, knows the score, and explains it to Guts, and completely fails to get through to him.
And the reason Guts prioritizes the speech over actual evidence of what his relationship with Griffith actually is, both in the form of Griffith saving him and Casca explaining things to him, comes back to his abusive childhood:


He is convinced that Griffith looks down on him because this is what he’s grown up expecting from people he respects and loves. He expects to be seen as worth nothing more than the money he can bring in and the fights he can win, he expects to be ostracized and seen as “cursed,” so Griffith’s speech overrides Griffith risking his life and dream to save Guts twice, it overrides Casca’s jealousy of their relationship, it overrides Griffith freaking out and refusing to let Guts leave without another duel, hell, for a while it even overrides both Casca and Rickert telling him that Griffith destroyed his life because Guts left.
He’s gone from feeling like a trusted, respected, and valued friend to feeling like nothing more than an asset to Griffith’s dream.
Remember, he did not feel discontent before the speech. In his three years with the Hawks before overhearing the speech, he felt like he’d found the place he belonged. He felt worthwhile, he felt valued as a person and not just as a soldier, and moreover, he was right to feel that way.
The Hawks do love, respect, and value him, and Griffith demonstratably values him even over his dream whether he’s able to admit that to himself or not.
And it’s only after overhearing the speech, overhearing that Griffith can only see someone as a friend and equal if they have their own obsession to pursue, that Guts starts feeling once again like he’s only fighting to survive, as we see him ponder during the 100 man fight, and here:


Before the Promrose Hall speech he felt like he was fighting for his friends and comrades, for Griffith, and he was proud of that, but now he feels like he’s worthlessly fighting for nothing. It’s incredibly depressing imo. This is straight up a result of Guts’ low self esteem, thanks to his abusive childhood.

This is Guts’ tendency to feel like an outsider rearing its ugly head. This is because he grew up being told he was cursed, used only as a source of income for Gambino, and turned on and nearly killed by Gambino and then the rest of the mercenaries. This is Guts feeling like he can’t trust any companionship to be genuine other than his sword.
Basically what happened is that Guts overheard Griffith’s speech in a moment of particular vulnerability. He’d just accidentally killed a kid and he was feeling like a monster about it. He was trying to find Griffith, probably to feel that same sense of acceptance and love he felt during the staircase conversation – he needed reassurance, and instead his world came crashing down around him and his feelings of worthlessness resurged hard.
And because of his outsider issues he extrapolates Griffith’s speech to his feelings about being part of the Hawks as a whole. Every Hawk has a dream except him, therefore he’s an outsider and doesn’t really belong.
And on some level, Guts knows this is bullshit.



It’s been one day and, now feeling the full weight of being alone again and apart from what Rickert pointedly calls his family, he’s already having second thoughts, reflecting on the warm companionship he’s giving up and acknowledging that his goal is inherently contradictory.
He wants to find his own dream so he can live for himself, when his entire reason for wanting that is to become Griffith’s equal. He’s not going out to find a dream for the sake of his own sense of independence, or because he personally also believes that a person is only worthwhile if they’re pursuing something.
He’s doing it because he overheard Griffith say that’s the only way to be his friend.






As he declares his independence from Griffith he is literally parroting Griffith’s speech here lol; it’s a giant contradiction and proof of what he mused on the night he left – he got this idea in his head by overhearing Griffith’s words, therefore he’s not actually doing it for his own sake.
Guts left for the sole reason of fulfilling Griffith’s weird and specific friendship criteria.
And after Guts comes back his whole narrative pretty much revolves around his slow and painful realization that Griffith’s speech was functionally meaningless, and yeah it turns out he did end up throwing away something irreplacable that he’ll never have again by taking off.







Like, just to underscore how significant it is that Guts lets Casca stab him as he internalizes this information, this is a huge sign of guilt. We see Guts do the same thing when the possessed kid stabs him all the way back in chapter 2. He denies feeling responsible both times, but the fact that he let himself be stabbed contradicts those words.


It takes him several days and several pretty huge anvils dropped on him before he finally accepts the fact that not only was leaving entirely unnecessary because Griffith did not actually look down on him or consider him unworthy, but by leaving he destroyed the thing he left to obtain in the first place: he left to become Griffith’s equal and when he came back, by any standards these two idiots would use to define power and worth, Guts is by far Griffith’s superior now. Entirely because Guts left Griffith is now disabled, helpless, voiceless, dreamless, powerless, and dependent.
And let’s be real, it’s a pretty damn harsh thing to accept that you not only rearranged the focus of your entire life and left your found family for no reason, but by doing so you lost the thing you rearranged your life and left your family to try to get. It’s no wonder Guts holds out for so long.
He keeps telling himself that Griffith is above the kind of emotion that would lead to him being declared a traitor one day after Guts left, that Griffith is untouchable, that Griffith has always had everything under control and always will. He insists to himself that Griffith is perfect and soaring distantly above him, because his reason for leaving is to become just like him. He has to believe it to justify his decision.
Since before he left:


to after he comes back:



But his ability to deny not just Griffith’s flawed humanity but also his devastatingly powerful feelings for him is growing weaker. Guts is beginning to realize that the fact that Guts was able to destroy him by leaving is itself proof that he didn’t need to leave.
Guts already had as strong a hold over Griffith as Griffith had over him. They were already functionally equals in this way.


Then I’ve made a huge mistake.
To make a long story short (too late), this is why Guts left:



And this is how Griffith really feels about Guts:



These two monologues exist to play off each other. Guts monologuing about his feelings for Griffith, how dazzling he is, how he needs to leave so he can be Griffith’s equal instead of feeling like Griffith is looking down on him. And Griffith’s monologue about his feelings for Guts, how the dream he’s spent every waking moment of his life pursuing pales in comparison to him, how strong Guts’ hold on him is, how he’s the sole sustenance keeping him alive.
It’s a point/counterpoint. Griffith’s monologue directly states that Guts is wrong about his reasons for leaving.
And again, I don’t think Guts’ decision to leave was actually stupid, or that it reflects badly on him. Griffith himself didn’t properly recognize his feelings for Guts until it was too late, and Guts had good reasons, both internal (a history of abuse) and external (Griffith’s stupid speech), for believing Griffith looked down on him.
But nevertheless he was still wrong, and here’s where Guts finally, finally realizes it properly, without pushing that realization away and denying it some more:



Unfortunately he realizes this about 30 seconds too late, which is what makes Berserk a tragedy.

Anyway, that’s about it. It may be worth noting that his regret over leaving informs significant chunks of the rest of his narrative, such as realizing he’s been being a dick by leaving Casca in a cave for two years:


And refusing to leave her again:
“Don’t abandon what you can’t replace. Weren’t those Godo’s parting words?”


Guts realizing he fucked up and shouldn’t’ve left the Hawks informs his most significant moments of personal growth over the series. Realizing he’s repeating that mistake is what finally sways him from the self-destructive path of rage and revenge to putting his energy into protecting Casca.
The fact that companions and loved ones are more important and genuinely healthier things to prioritize than dreams is one of the central themes of Berserk, and Guts choosing to leave the Hawks, his family, to pursue a dream, thereby losing all of his friends and loved ones, is the main illustration of this theme.
Also worth noting: the dream Guts eventually landed on was to just keep swinging his sword, getting better and stronger and fighting better and stronger enemies, except alone this time, instead of among comrades and friends. You know what that describes to a tee? The Black Swordsman arc, as is neatly pointed out after the Eclipse:


Guts would’ve been much, much better off staying with the Hawks and continuing to find personal fulfillment in his relationships and feelings of being loved and valued, but years of being told his only worth is as an asset, rather than as a person, blinded him to the truth and made it too easy for him to believe he’s looked down on.
Part of the tragedy of the Golden Age hinges on Guts’ low self esteem and inability to see that he’s loved because of it. This is what happens when you’re the protagonist of a really well-written, really tragic story: you make some wonderfully disastrous, character-revealing mistakes.
@madchen said:
i literally just went
to see if i could finally see griffiths dick and confirm my Dick
Headcanons but i can barely see anything… this is misogyny and
homophobia against me specifically somehow
i think they drew it at 2 different sizes anyway lol it looks like a shower in the first cap (as far as u can tell w/ the shitty quality lol) and a grower in the 2nd
this is what happens when your character ref sheets aren’t anatomically correct
yesgabsstuff
replied to your photo “strangemonochromes: Berserk (ベルセルク) // Kentaro Miura”
It’s comp het the image
lol basically
i’ve seen the 2nd ova like 4 times and i’ve only noticed just now that griffith’s dick is out in the torture chamber scene at the end
yk the climax of the Millenium Falcon arc, like from Ganeshka’s ascention to the return to Guts’ stupid boat story and the start of the Fantasia arc, might be my favourite post Golden Age sequence aside from the hill of swords reunion








imagine you sacrifice the person you love the most in the whole world to escape your despair and gain demonic power, and this is what you get
you know you’re getting desperate when you start hoping shit like this is foreshadowing:

hey she’s only worn a dress twice while in her right mind! the first time guts called her a demon, the second time maybe she’ll fulfill this obscure prophecy i just made up

Well I mean it still could be either, the point is that it’s ambiguous – we see Locus’ extremely negative reaction to Rickert slapping Griffith to hint towards him – I just think there’s positive aspects in either Griffith or Locus sending Raksas after Rickert.
And I’m sorry I can’t really parse the rest of your message tbh, I’m not sure if you’re asking me if Femto is the real Griffith or if you’re just explaining your take on him? So feel free to rephrase if it is a question but otherwise I can’t really respond.
I wouldn’t call the whole souls of the dead thing propaganda, that’s just like, something he’s legitimately doing from what we can tell.
And yeah sure it’d be nice to see something happen with Charlotte. Probably won’t be leaving him at the altar all of a sudden with no build up but yk maybe someday she’ll run off with anna.
more light imagery
guts, looking up at the full moon and longing for a place to call home after killing gambino and fleeing:



guts, looking up at the full moon and realizing he’s found that home with the hawks:



guts, looking up into the sky a third time but there’s no moon and his home has just been completely obliterated:

sophelia-moon
replied to your post “Other stories, which have similar relationships to Griffith and Guts,…”
By mentioning Tokyo Babylon and X(/1999) in the same sentence, I can’t help but think that anon is referring at least partially to Subaru/Seishirou, which…how to explain it…in TB, it’s an age gap “romance” (16/25): young boy develops feelings for older man, older man is, shall we say, not the greatest person who ever lived…by the start of X, they’re both adults (not in a relationship) who stand on opposing sides of an issue (w/ complicated feelings unaddressed)
So I guess they’ve got the
friends/lovers/enemies flip-flopping that might bring up the comparison,
but I personally place them in a different kind of problematic bracket
than Guts and Griffith (though I don’t ship SeiSub so I could be
biased). They could also be thinking of Kamui/Fuuma from X/1999 who are
roughly the same age and whose relationship hits some similar beats…I do
like both TB and X though, although X is unfinished
ty for the additional info! idk if I’d ever get into this myself, but it’s good to know if I ever do. Seisub def doesn’t sound like my thing but the other ship you mentioned might be kind of intriguing.
a dilemma:
i’ve finished the ‘why guts leaving the hawks was a mistake post’ unless i want to add in a whole nother layer about how guts’ “dream” of fighting stronger and stronger enemies is also portrayed as terrible
on the one hand i don’t think it’s necessary to understand the point, on the other hand it’s still very relevant and probably the first thing ppl would think of as a counterpoint (what about guts’ dream though!) so it feels like I should nip that in the bud
on the third hand fully explaining that would make an already overly long post even longer
maybe i should write it separately and link to it?
ngl i feel like i’m creating this whole like, web of “My Berserk” lol where to fully understand my perspective you have to read fucking everything i’ve ever written, because i have premises resting on premises resting on premises and they’re all opposing takes to what general berserk fandom tends to think. like i feel like a lot of this should be self-explanatory but it’s not for some reason so I have to go through it all.
it’s like eg i’m over here going on and on about how griffith’s driving motivation is guilt and his narrative is about being torn between that and his affirming relationship with guts, while elsewhere in berserk fandom the default position is that griffith’s driving motivation is “evil lust for power.”
and it’s rly weird because like, i genuinely think i’m right about my take on berserk, but sometimes it feels like i’m inventing my own berserk because even the absolute most basic resting premises of my reading are at odds with the majority of fandom. It’s like, unnervingly insular lol. same is true for this, like i’m writing out ‘why guts leaving was a mistake’ so i have something to link to bc i feel like it’s an absolutely necessary thing to recognize to understand my reading of berserk, but it’s a niche opinion, and that feels so strange to me.
ok this kind of just devolved into me musing outloud lol. idk.
me on my way to ruin my life

craigslost
replied to your post “In a noEclipse AU, how do you think Casca and Farnese met? cause I…”
put farnese in yhe wilderness w casca for like 2 days and she’ll turn
yesss lol this is such a good scenario
cool, ty! I’ve never read any of clamp’s stuff tbh so good to know
yk i’m usually in the locus sent raksas after rickert camp, but i just realized that the idea of griffith sending raksas after him actually has potential to be more interesting bc it strongly suggests that he was shaken by the encounter
jyuanka
replied to your post “soft breeze, check. leaves, check. casca gets a starry/campfire-y…”
tbh, as i was reading the manga, i thought that guts developed complex and complicated feelings for both of them (which involve romantic love, certainly). i don’t think that casca was somehow a “replacement” for an unavailable griffith. moreover, i think casca herself was guilty of trying to understand and get to griffith through guts, not really the other way around.
That’s fair but honestly I actually do rly think that, while it’s probably an accident of Miura shoving a ton of repressed feelings into the love triangle in just about every direction, and/or maybe just a side effect of the fact that Guts and Griffith are still the central relationship in the story and most other relationships in Berserk serve as support for it in some way, Guts’ feelings towards Casca do come across as redirected feelings for Griffith to me. Not so much Guts using Casca to try to get to Griffith or understand him, but more a sublimation of his subconscious feelings for someone he perceives as unavailable (for reasons that include both the stupid speech and the fact that he’s a dude) to someone who is available.
Like ik that sounds like a giant stretch so I can argue for my otp lol, and I mean yeah I’m ngl I’m biased, but eg here’s my favourite observation I’ve made about it, specifically about their sexual encounter, and it feels like a genuinely solid reading to me.
I also have a much longer thing on the same topic here that covers a lot more ground but like, that’s five thousand words lol so I’m just adding it for posterity’s sake, not actually telling you to read it (or the other post for that matter, I just linked them for curiosity’s sake, and bc I’ve already said p much everything I can think of to say about Guts and Casca and their feelings for Griffith in those posts so I’m being lazy lol)


soft breeze, check. leaves, check. casca gets a starry/campfire-y background while griffith gets the intense bedroom eyes and general beautification, which i feel is a fair trade.
casca gets this romanticized shot right before treating guts’ wounds; griffith gets this romanticized shot right after not having an excuse for risking his life for guts.
anyway lol this is a prime example of casca getting some of the romance cues griffith used to get once a) guts decides griffith is unreachable at the moment and b) miura decided the eclipse needed more ~drama~



they did so well i love them
berserkerlover221
replied to your post “why is the battle of doldrey so goodevery time i re-read a bit of it i…”
@bthump cus the parts where Griffith stares at guts with such concern and the part where he yells for guts to pick up the sword….genius…..
true that is very good shit. they watch each other so much during the fight lol, it’s gr8
also i can’t decide whether the first two or the second two pages are my favourite moments
i’ll call it a tie
why is the battle of doldrey so good
every time i re-read a bit of it i get engrossed again
Yeah I definitely see Femto/NeoGriff as basically an angel within the world of Berserk. The Godhand have been referred to as angels a few times too. I love the idea of him basically existing to fulfill humanity’s desires but his residual feelings for Guts are like a bug or flaw in the system that impedes God’s plans. Tho who knows?
Imo yeah becoming an apostle or a Godhand essentially strengthens your negative emotions and weakens/destroys your positive ones. “A fissure in your heart will open into which evil will surge,” Griffith explicitly losing his ability to feel empathy as he transforms, in the lost chapter Femto is described as being physically (well astral-ly?) made of evil, etc. So yeah, it literally changes you, but not necessarily into something completely new with no relation to your original self – it’s more like, an alternate version of you.
Are you asking me what Griffith wants, or just kind of musing outloud lol, I’m not sure based on your phrasing. But imo he just wants a kingdom/empire. I think NeoGriffith basically retained human Griffith’s ambition, but lost the very human reasons behind that ambition (guilt, despire for an escape from harsh reality, to feel like he has a reason for existing) in his transformation, making him kind of this eerie being who just exists to create a utopian empire.
But again, residual feelings for Guts in the mix can and should complicate that rly interestingly.
bienne-de
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Also last thing guts sees before dying is griffiths crying face like akira hhhh

sophelia-moon
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Oh, I’m glad! Since you haven’t seen it, to expand on what LOGH brings to the table from a queer perspective, I recommend the blog https://logh-icebergs.tumblr.com/FAQs
So if you do decide to
check it out your reward (besides the show itself) is reading that
amazing blog 🙂 They recommend beginning with the movie My Conquest is
the Sea of Stars and I would agree with that (it’s a prequel/pilot-ish
thing to the main OVA series)
oh nooooo this is exactly the kind of thing that will get me into a series lmao, this is perfect
thank you!
bienne-de
replied to your post “my favorite thing is fanboys talking about how debilman inspired…”
The last battle of love and hate between guts and griffith! miura when
yesss. like, imagine it all coming down to a 3rd duel, the outcome depending on emotions rather than power levels.