yesgabsstuff
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Like even the idea of “childishness” being a shared trait between them is a weird area of analysis and I’m not sure if Casca, outside of the choices that Miura made for her would be this way you know?

I feel like I need to take a hard look
at the later cannon at the children and see what I can gleam from them
in regards to both Griffith and Casca as well as Guts. I mean if you’re
looking at cosmic forces that play specifically on childish feelings
frozen by trauma I feel like it kind of links all of the story arcs
together more strongly

oops replied too soon

but yeah i was actually about to say in response to the first part that while comparing griffith and casca’s childishness seems like a stretch bc griffith was just a 15 yr old who was emotionally immature in some ways and casca is mentally regressed, both casca’s regression and griffith’s immaturity stem from coping with traumatic experiences so even if one’s subtle and realistic and the other is over the top and ridiculous you could draw similarities mb. even if it’s just because miura likes writing about traumatized people.

and then you added the second comment and i’m like welp mte.

tho idk if the current children have much to do with it, none of them seem to have any real issues, they’re just annoying window dressing imho.

yesgabsstuff
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Yeah. I don’t really have anything smart to add beyond that but I noticed that and was anxious.

well while farnese and guts’ reactions were pretty different iirc both incidences lead to greater understanding and some form of bonding (farnese apologizing). so i could see it.

@chaoticgaygriffith @yesgabsstuff lol you mentioned me but tbh my opinion on this topic is basically exactly what you’re discussing in the comments so, +1

i guess one thing i can throw out tho is that
I kinda think on a narrative level the whole sequence from Guts waking up from his nightmare and then thinking of Griffith with this look in his eyes

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to Griffith winning and Guts looking at him with the same look in his eyes

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tells us that
there’s attraction between Guts and Griffith that can’t be
straightforwardly acted on because of their histories.

Like Guts clearly already wants Griffith’s attention despite getting uncomfortable and pissed off when he gets it, and the fact that instead of just walking away he proposes a bet where if he wins he can stab Griffith and if he loses he has to stay with him in a maybe sexual way, and either way they get to get up close and personal with swords and roll around in the grass for a while, seems pretty telling to me.

Idk basically I think Guts subconsciously wants to stay with Griffith and keep
Griffith’s attention on him despite his discomfort, I think attraction
and sexuality seeps into their exchange because, well, it’s there, and I
think rape comes in because that’s what Guts thinks of when he thinks of
men and sexuality (and thanks to the nightmare its on his and the audience’s minds),

and it’s brought up bc it’s a complication that keeps that attraction subconscious and sublimated.

yesgabsstuff
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@bthump Also this song took me screaming back to being in the 7th grade.

 @inablackmirror 
said: This song has been special to me for a long time, so that made it even more meaningful to me.

I’m extra glad you enjoyed it then and the song choice worked for you! Thank you 🙂

also honestly same on both counts tbh, I listened to Let Go all the time in jr high and I re-listened to it in a fit of nostalgia a few months ago, got to this song and was like, wooooow this is the most griffith thing I’ve ever heard. so eventually I had to vid it.

yesgabsstuff
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“the berserk episode synopses on wikipedia are killing me cut for petty…”

“Everything Griffith does is Evil Plotting because his hair is too shinny uwu.”

assassinating people who tried to assassinate him first? evil

saving lives at great personal risk or sacrifice? evil

catching a girl who almost fell down some stairs? evil

killing a pedophile who’d just spent 90% of his screen time cackling about his nefarious plan to capture him as a sex slave? you better believe that’s evil

well this is about harry potter not berserk so it’s under a cut lol

yesgabsstuff
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“wingsfreedom
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So, semi-related; I read the Harry Potter series when I was slightly older and found the level of conscious emotional manipulation of Harry by most if not all of the adults in his life to be chilling but it worked for me? It’s a story about war really and it felt more like the desperate need this child had to believe that the world he was entering was idyllic than an unconscious exploration of an idyllic world. The way that a lot of fans have connected to that world is legitimate I think but I
Never felt the need to
overly sentimentalize the world of Harry Potter and I’m not sure that
was her intent as a writer for the series as a whole. The anti-Semitic
troupes used for the goblins always weirded me out and I had forgotten
about the werewolf.

oop I missed this earlier. But yeah I def read HP as I grew up which is a v different perspective. Idk imo the tonal shift between books 4 + 5 from roald dahl esque whimsy to a more realistic tone really fucked up the series. I think JKR either had to stick with one tone the whole way through or work a lot harder to make the tonal change work by re-examining the whimsical silly parody-of-british-society worldbuilding through a more realistic lens and subverting it.

(eg she tried to complicate the inherently absurd house sorting system by having the sorting hat sing a song about house unity in the later books, but then never followed through because she still made every slytherin child a total cowardly pos lol)

and the tonal shift lead to a kind of mishmash where you have to take some aspects seriously and other aspects as cute humour. so you have fantasy racism and death eaters as nazi parallels alongside ~wacky~ fantasy slavery with the house elves, and arthur weasley (the ministry’s expert on muggles, our oppressed class) as basically an uncritical pastiche of ignorant 18th century colonialist attitudes.

So idk. I think a lot of HP fic does a better and more interesting job of meshing the disparate aspects of the series than JKR did lol. But I can also see how it might work better in some ways at least if you read them one after the other, rather than waiting years between books, especially if you know in advance that it gets darker.

yesgabsstuff
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Omg they are all so clueless and awkward and it’s painful. To be fair I wouldn’t really know what to say if I saw someone actively self-destructing in front of me, especially as a teenager/early twenties person.

yeah i mean it’s absolutely one of those things where you can’t blame guts or casca lol, no one’s actually at fault (except maybe fate). the situations just kind of suck all around and the characters happen to help that along for understandable reasons. which lbr p much sums up the golden age lol. can’t blame anyone for what they did or said (for the most part), it all makes sense for their characters based on the information they have, but it still sucks.

It’s something I’ve said to them/myself
more often the more I’ve meditated on it. Corkus was too sane  and
cranky for this world.

tbh when Corkus basically tells Guts he’s an ungrateful idiot when Guts explains why he wants to leave I pretty much want to high five him. Like I understand Guts’ motivation, but man Corkus Was Right. he’s wrong about some things (like thinking Griffith dgaf about Guts) but he’s spot on about other things.

yesgabsstuff
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I’ve heard someone try to argue that he got captured on purpose to endure the year of torture so on and so forth. My brain melted a little bit. I think it’s fair to argue that at the moment he climbed up to Charlotte’s window that he perhaps meant to die; but there is zero evidence that Griffith had a fucking clue that the Behelit was anything more than a good luck charm with some mild magic, if he even believed in that sort of thing.

lmao incredible. i can’t even deal with this lol, the idea that he let himself be tortured for a year on purpose just so he’d feel enough despair to trigger the behelit or w/e is so nonsenical and contradictory to everything we see that i’m in awe

anyway ia with you, griffith semi-purposefully/subconsciously self immolated when he slept with charlotte but that’s not even in the same ballpark as calculatingly destroying himself on the off-chance it would work out and end with him turning into a god lol

Someone has probably already sent you this, but Griffith.

actually you’re the only person who’s sent anything so this works out ❤

character: hate them | don’t really care | like them | LOVE them | REALLY FUCKING LOVE THEM

ship with: Guts ofc

brotp: hmmm. Guess I gotta go with Zodd. Griffith may have no friends but at least he has a giant monster he can ride around on.

general opinions: Griffith exemplifies like a million of my favourite tropes and he’s one of my favourite fictional characters of all time. Ambitious emotionally repressed + morally dubious person brought down by intense overwhelming love, like, it’s the epitome of my shit. I love how complex he is, and I love how tragic his narrative is, and I love how repressed and stupid he is, and I love how gay he is, and I love how emotionally vulnerable he is in brief moments when he loses control, etc etc.

Casca

character: hate them | don’t really care | like them | LOVE them | THEY ARE MY PRECIOUS

ship with: FARNESE!

brotp: tbh all the Hawks, I love what we see of her relationship to the Band in general. I love the theoretical concept of her being bffs with Guts instead of hooking up with him and just removing all sex from their relationship, but in canon as is, nah get them far away from each other.

general opinions: I love her, I think she had a ton of potential as an interesting character that unfortunately we only ever got to see brief glimpses of, I really really wish the story was kinder to her, and I want her to raise hell when she gets her mind back.

yesgabsstuff
replied to your post “interesting question….”

@bthump Very true. For some reason I imagined Shisu being fragile before she lost her baby but I’m not sure that really makes much sense given the life she was living. With Miura it’s hard to tell if he expected us to imagine she recovered. Most of us seem to not have and that’s definitely more on him than on us as readers.

yeah absolutely. tbh i doubt miura ever thought of the answer to this question lol. i definitely also got the impression that shisu never recovered, but i guess that’s bc there’s nothing to go on and all we see of shisu is her not mentally well and then dying, so yeah. logically maybe it makes sense if she recovered but the writing tells us nada.

yesgabsstuff
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“My Big Gay Berserk Analysis 3”

@bthump I do think that there is so much to look at via the “predatory gays trope” and the way it’s handled in the text especially in regard to Casca. The text seems on the one hand to be dealing very forthrightly with toxic masculinity and homophobia and it having destructive consequences while at the same time sort of reinforcing the idea that “not normal” desires or even just difficulties that are as the result of trauma do ultimately lead you satisfy those desires with violence in a way? Idk

Yeah I definitely didn’t get as into it as I could’ve.

In my final gay berserk post I do get into the depiction of trauma in Berserk a bit and how it affects the characters/plot so I discuss this kind of thing a little there. So stay tuned for that, it might be of some interest.

Idk if I’d call Berserk “forthright” when it comes to homophobia, since any potential depiction of it (say internalized homophobia and repression on Guts or Griffith’s parts) is left in subtext. It’s more forthright on misogyny, but even then the textual depiction of it tends to be 2 dimensional hot takes like rape threats and “boy it sure sucks to be a woman in a society that sees them as lesser, also periods.”

lol I’ve been kind of kicking this response around for a while and not really coming up with anything useful to say. idk like Berserk + misogyny/homophobia/etc is the most difficult subject of all. If you ever wrote an analysis of it I’d be v into reading it though.

I think ultimately my take boils down to feeling like the bad by far outweighs the good, even if some of what Miura did is purposeful commentary. So like say, the way Guts and Griff are both victims of sexual predators (who use their societal position to facilitate their predatory behaviour, ie Gennon using his wealth and power to collect a harem and Donovan telling Guts it happens all the time in mercenary camps), and the way both of their ~dark sides~ manifest in sexual assault while evidencing homoerotic desire they couldn’t act on. Maybe it’s a deliberate point that societal violence begets violence and internalized homophobia fucks you up. But even if that’s what Miura’s trying to say (and I do think it’s def a stretch) it’s still so offensively depicted (eroticization of assault, Casca’s fridging, no positive gay characters to compensate for all the predatory homoeroticism, etc) that it doesn’t really make it much better to me.

But then at the same time author intention doesn’t necessarily matter when it comes to what the reader gets out of a text. Like, in that 4th part of my gay meta I mentioned I basically throw author intention out the window and say ‘here’s what I get from it and why i prefer this take to whatever miura may have intended.’ 

so idk basically i think various opinions on this subject are worthwile regardless of the author and how he fucks up bc his own offensive biases etc get in the way, and if you have more thoughts on his at any point I’m interested!

yesgabsstuff
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@bthump One thing that really struck me about the sex scene between Guts and Casca was the way that he became triggered. She turns her back to him if I remember correctly and he at that moment sees himself as a child in her place and reacts violently. Her being a woman in that moment really only reminds him of both his pervious vulnerability and also dare I say the fear of the “feminine” he has in himself. I don’t know really what else to say about this and I want to to know what you think.

Hmm, from an in-universe perspective idk if it’s really because Casca’s a woman, if he happened to be fucking a man in that position I imagine his reaction would be the same.

When it comes to what Miura intended to convey, man, idk lol. Honestly I’m gonna bypass this bc I tried to write smthn about it but Miura + deliberate criticisms of misogyny + gender and gender roles + his own misogyny + homophobia, is such a hot mess, I can’t come up with anything useful to say. Like equating being raped with being forced into the role of a woman does seem in line with his deliberate portrayals of misogyny, but tbh I just don’t have the energy to add my own critique to that, it’s a v heavy topic that requires a lot of nuance. Suffice to say I have v mixed feelings.

But! On the subject of Guts’ flashback one thing I was thinking of after I wrote that last post about how gay Guts is that I should’ve added, is that after having sex with her she’s like, “that’s why you used to hate being touched by anyone, isn’t it?”
“It never mattered with you. When you first saved my life. For some reason… at that time… it was fine. But only with you.”

And Miura is probably trying to re-write that scene to seem kind of romantic, but let’s be real here Guts was about to have a flashback when he woke up next to a naked person before realizing she was a woman and calming down. We know the reason he was okay with Casca then, and it’s because she’s not a man. And then ever since she’s been the only woman he like… knows. At all. With this being brought up right after sex, the overall takeaway I get from this exchange between Guts and Casca is that Guts registers Casca as extra non-threatening because she’s the only woman he knows, and therefore she’s the only person he would’ve been okay having sex with at this point in time, regardless of his actual sexuality.

(I mean granted if Guts was deliberately written as canonically gay I’d be pretty unhappy about Miura having him have sex with women because of trauma, but since I’m reaching here and I don’t think it’s deliberate and the het sex scene is there whether I like it or not, I’m still gonna grasp at this straw to support my Guts is Gay thesis statement.)

yesgabsstuff
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I’m having feelings about this and your essay about Griffith’s arc of being closeted. I kind of feel that you could write a parallel essay about moments like this with Guts honestly. Despite coming across generally as the one who is more willing to confront his feelings during the GA arc he feels like the less self aware of the two here. It’s interesting. The idea that he would throw himself into a sexual entanglement with someone who he does trust certainly but isn’t really in love with so
He could I don’t know
“enact” loving someone.(I’m pretty sure that was how Casca felt too. The
idea of her being kind of so soaked in compulsory heterosexuality that
she can’t really name or give herself room to think of her own desires
resonates with me a lot.) I don’t know how emotionally cavalier and
dangerous to himself and others that is while at the same time being
“easier” socially isn’t really all that different than Griffith’s
relationship with Charlotte to me.
Honestly Guts being more normatively
“masculine” seems to give their relationship this veneer of authenticity
to a lot of the fans and I can’t see any other reason for it. His
behavior certainly doesn’t support those conclusions.

I completely agree. Like het in general almost always feels paint-by-numbers boring to me but Berserk goes an extra step – it doesn’t just feel like inauthentic he was a boy she was a girl bs, it feels aggressively… idk, harmful? Negative? The comparison to Griffith and Charlotte makes a lot of sense to me, the only difference is that Griffith knows his relationship is a sham.

Like @mastermistressofdesire said, a chapter later they’re getting weird and jealous and love-quadrangle-y with Griffith and Charlotte thrown into the mix, and then a short while after that Casca’s telling him to leave and Guts is trying to reaffirm his loyalty and love for Griffith, and then during the Eclipse they’re entirely separated in body and thought until it’s time for Casca to become solely a pawn of Guts and Griffith/Femto’s intense enmity.

At their most positive they never feel like more than friends trying something out – even Guts is like, yeah you can come with me and maybe it’ll suck and you’ll throw off my groove but w/e we’ll see.

And at their most negative Guts assaults her to feel a connection to Griffith.

Also to address the actual like, compulsory heterosexuality vibe from an in-universe perspective, god like, they are so gay. Casca’s crush on Griffith feels extremely like a lesbian with a “crush” on a gay dude, ie someone safe to focus on who will never return her feelings (and no you don’t have to know the dude is gay for this to be a thing lol, citation: me and quite a bit of anecdata of gay women who’ve nursed crushes on dudes who also later came out). And excuse my messiness wrt personal identification but as someone who started out as ambivalent wrt having sex with men and is now firmly Not Into It, Casca having bad sex with Guts and going ‘yeah this is fine i guess i could do this more’ because she feels like a relationship with him validates her as a person is also #relatable.

And obviously Guts is gay but has related trauma. The first time he slept with Casca he was freaked out until he registered the fact that she was a woman, which seems like a pretty relevant prelude to their “relationship” such as it is.

you said it more eloquently tho here:

 I think the idea that they didn’t have
another way to imagine their intense feelings at that moment outside of a
romantic relationship tells you how deeply they don’t really understand
themselves at that moment and how much I think a part of them longs for
“normalcy.”

like tl;dr ia with yours and mmod’s convo in the comments lol, allow me to join in on the gay projection.

godclaw
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I see the kama sutra thing a lot actually tbh…like…its an awful foreshadowing in itself lmao

lmao it rly is isn’t it. but i’m glad it’s there so i can hc that griffith hasn’t slept with a woman b4 charlotte ngl.

@yesgabsstuff said:
@bthump *Shameless plug for Anna* 

honestly if a gay guy who’s dissociating and thinking about a dude at the time gets charlotte going that easily i hope anna likes her women ear-shatteringly loud in bed.

yesgabsstuff
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He did an amazing job of having the reasons they didn’t talk to each other make perfect sense in character. It makes watching them excruciating because it feels almost like fate. Key word I suppose for plot reasons is “almost.” It feels like they didn’t even have the language to talk about their feelings due to the world of the story as well, which in turn, created their psychological reasons for not expressing themselves. It’s kinda perfect?

yeah exactly, like it never felt at all contrived or like drama for the sake of drama, the reasons why they couldn’t talk to each other reflect on their own characters and backstories, and good point about the setting factoring in too.

also yeah one thing i dig about how fate works in the story is that it always seemed to just lead the characters to choices (eg it’s easy to blame fate for guts overhearing griffith’s speech or the king interrupting their post-zodd chat or the maid spying on griff and charlotte), but never affects the choices they make which all come completely from character. nothing ever feels forced to me despite fate being an active agent in the plot.

yesgabsstuff
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Oh yeah. Their power dynamic is very delicate and that’s what really hooked me into the series honestly. Like you have this tension between playing their roles in their relationship and what they need as people. They don’t really understand that they can have everything they need if they talk about it

yeeeeep same, and like, your last sentence is a perfect summarization of this whole thing lol.

it’s funny, berserk is one of the few stories that rests on a premise of ‘two idiots could’ve fixed everything if they’d just talked to each other’ that i feel really, really works instead of feeling like hamfisted bad drama.

yesgabsstuff
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@bthump I agree. I’m not sure that Griffith achieving his goal the ~conventional~ way would have lessened the distance between them. That may very well have triggered a splitting episode in Guts of the “who are u even?!!!������” variety. It would have been very slow burn lol. And possibly more openly kinky than it already is. I mean I’m into it so….

lol yeah i don’t really think griff becoming king would do it, i think they’d have to talk and open up to each other emotionally and feelings of being equals rather than rungs on a hierarchal ladder would follow naturally

tbh it’s funny because i’m always into role reversals wrt relationship power dynamics – like whoever seems to have the most power overall has the least when it comes to ~their feelings~ so GriffGuts kind of really suits me there (that torture chamber monologue, maaaan) – but at the same time there’s such an emphasis placed on equal relationships in Berserk overall but especially wrt GriffGuts that I really want to see it happen, whether it’s a happy AU or equally killing each other at the end of the story lol.

Like first Griff had all the power, then Guts had all the power, then Femto/NeoGriff had all the power, while what both of them wanted was equality. idk it’s a big part of why i find them so endlessly interesting i think. like even in a happy AU it would be rly interesting to explore their dynamic shifting from Guts feeling subordinate to Griffith feeling emotionally powerless and eventually finding some kind of balance. probably with plenty of subtle and overt kinkiness along the way if canon is anything to go by.

@yesgabsstuff said:
I actually was
thinking about something you said in passing a while ago. We were
talking about how he learned how to behave around nobles and you called
it the “miss manners stuff.” I realized that we don’t really have an
equivalent expression for men and that got me thinking about about how
being polite and showing the “correct” deference to your betters is kind
of inherently feminized labor in a way? I also was thinking about how
that instinct for self protection, which is really what

I think it is at this point for him
extended his polite behavior to his own rape. I don’t really know where
I’m going with this but I had thoughts.

That doesn’t really undo the effects of toxic masculinity but rather adds a different dimension of his character for me? 

Ooh yeah I see what you mean. lol it really is – I remember reading some studies about that in like a sociology class years ago or something, how a lot of behaviour coded as feminine is the same deferential behaviour eg men show to their bosses.

tbh idk I’d mostly separate the way Griffith behaves among nobility (deferential, always polite, always uses proper address/titles/etc, keenly aware of his place as an outsider and mitigating it with the shows of submission – smiling and apologizing when Julius slaps him is a gr8 example – etc) vs the way he behaves among the Hawks as their grand soaring leader.

BUT that said ia it is all tied to self-protection, and tbh you’re right – there isn’t a whole lot of difference between Griffith smiling when Julius slaps him, lip bleeding, and Griffith smiling when Casca hugs him, arms bleeding. I think he might tell himself that he’s trying to reverse the dynamic and comfort Casca instead of allowing her to comfort him because he has to be a strong leader and can’t show weakness, but I could definitely see a huge part of it being fear of his own vulnerability.

Idk I just really dig your point and tbh I think it would be really interesting to compare/contrast Griffith among the Hawks and Griffith among the nobles. Both masks stemming from the same place of vulnerability, yk?

@yesgabsstuff​ said:
Ditto for a conversation with Casca except that it ends with her taking the implement of self harm out of his hands and saying;
“You’re totally full of shit but I guess it’s time to put you to bed.”

awww. this is all
so perfect tbh. i’d seriously read 200k words of berserk as just a low key, realistic group of
traumatized and mentally ill people trying to support each other and get by and often failing and fucking up but
sometimes succeeding.

(i mean that’s basically what it is already but yk, take away the monsters and you’re still left with so much good character stuff and making it quietly realistic + modern adds a certain tone that agrees with me more than i would’ve expected. though i wouldn’t necessarily want to follow the plot of berserk to a tee lol. keep the themes, maybe explore different directions)

About that Psych Grad Student AU of yours

mastermistressofdesire:

@yesgabsstuff @bthump

I found something for Corkus to do!

You know expanding on the psych, group therapy angle, I’d really
like for it to be like this unofficial support group Griffith put together
while still in school because a lot of kids in the neighbourhood could not
afford therapy, but is now working towards getting a degree and making it like
a professional deal, maybe even join a bigger set up or really expand upon the
project. And it’s sort of become a safe space for all these kids and over the years,
some of the older ones like Judeau, Pippin, Corkus have all stayed together and
become like this group of people who at this point just support each other as
friends and actually even help to guide the newer ones who join. (Corkus has
his own brand of tough love which surprisingly works on some of the most
withdrawn kids so they sort of let him be).

And everyone of course, completely loves Griffith because this
guy literally gave a lot of them life. 

Griffith however has in recent times started to develop a very
non-disclosure, sterile clinical style of counselling, where he’ll hear
everyone out, non-judgmentally, of course but not really give any personal
inputs. And he’s pretty good at this.( Psych students would be rolling their
eyes here- but there’s like these two schools of thought regarding counselling
among psychologists, one that the psychologist should not bring any personality
to the table, as the therapy isn’t about them, they should merely be a mirror
in which their clients can find themselves, an emotionless but rational and
non-maleficent screen and the other is that the psychologist should interact
with the client as their authentic selves, to be better able to build trust, a
sense of reality and connection and extend human support to the client.)

However, this wasn’t always the case and when he was younger,
and didn’t really know much about psychology or therapy. Griffith would reach
out pretty much how any concerned person would, he was just a lot better at it
intrinsically

Unfortunately, as with any group of people dealing with
participants from such sad and messed up personal situations, among the many
happy recoveries there are also some things which couldn’t be fixed. Over the
years there have been those who relapsed, ran away or most commonly committed
suicide, mostly during the early years of the Group when Griffith was still
doing the stuff pretty much solo and he has a huge case of unresolved guilt
associated with these cases. Because in retrospect sometimes he keeps wondering
if it was something he had unthinkingly or unknowingly said and simply the fact
that he had taken responsibility for these people and that  maybe what was his
amateurish incompetence and over involvement had ultimately failed them.

Casca however turns out to be one of his early
successful ‘cases’ and he helps her recover from and infact directly stops
her from being sexually assaulted. And he really helps her kind of regain her
sense of control over herself .Casca completely hero-worships him. This goes
on till final year of high school by when Casca has become somewhat of a support
counsellor herself but then things suddenly turn ugly when this kid who’d
recently joined them commits suicide, and this is the one of the youngest kids ever that Griffith had
taken in and he’s completely shaken by this incident.

This also starts his goal toward working his ass off and getting that actual degree and scholarship. So he applies to a lot of Universities, and gets accepted into a great one except Gennon is the Dean. Go figure. 

So Casca witnesses an incident and she’s pretty shaken about it but later when she asks Griffith why he wont just leave, he tells her it’s not important in the grand scheme of things and right now the degree is the most important thing for him because he refuses to take risks with the lives of people who trust him with their lives. Plus it’s kind of his dream to have his own sort of therepeutic set up .

and so it goes, and also like when Griffith first meets Guts, he asks him to join in on their meetings and Guts takes offense and says he doesn’t need it.

In the beginning Guts resents Griffith slightly because he looks like he’s so untouched by the things which everyone else is suffering from. He seems normal and happy and well-adjusted and Guts can’t relate to that and sometimes just wants to drag him down to his level.

But as the years go by it becomes what he loves the most about Griffith, that he can just waltz in and make Guts smile despite himself. And Guts becomes exceedingly protective of him because he feels like he wants to protect a little bit of that  ‘ innocence’. 

Later he  hears about Casca’s story and —

haha this is getting real long but yeah canon typical things. but they will talk because it’s what they do for a living in this au. and things will be better.

Ooh I love this idea too, long but worth reading. tbh I’ve heard a lot about those two schools of thought you mentioned from a friend who’s a therapist and that’s a really clever and in-character way of applying it imo.

also i’ll add this here bc it’s all related to the same au:

@yesgabsstuff said: I feel like you could even keep the
whole Gennon situation in if you wanted? Like you have a student that
was on the waiting list for the group and he didn’t get the treatment he
needed in time due to a lack of funding and he ends up killing himself?
Grad student Griffith would totally blame himself and give into the
advances of a spooky doner
Patron of the department for a grant to be sent their way.

If you wanted. I would because it was important character development.

Yeah I think it’s pretty necessary. both this and @mastermistressofdesire‘s idea up there totally work for me.

The only thing I want to suggest is an original motivation for Griffith to decide to start this whole helping other people cope with trauma thing. Bc I mean canon Griffith didn’t necessarily have much of an original pre-gennon motivation for the castle dream but that was a rly simple + childish dream whereas this is more complex and I think should be rooted in something. Building off of the whole apparently orphan kid in a back-alley thing maybe he grew up in orphanages/foster homes and witnessed and/or experienced abuse and couldn’t do anything about it, and this is his way of taking back that sense of control and “making up for it” as he might think to himself?

Which kind of maybe is moving the dead kid motivation ahead a little, but idk.