This is the quality shit we come here for! ��❤️ Neo-Griff offering his body to the beast of darkness as an apology or self destructive thing is also very human Griffith of him and would definitely be a sign his heart isn’t as frozen as he’d like it to be.

ty! and ooh yeah i love the idea of there being a self-destructive/self-harming aspect deep down to ngriff mb angling more for fucking than fighting in a confrontation w/ beast of darkness guts. also maybe an element of avoiding having to kill guts too. and also wanting the d. honestly ngriff letting guts fuck him is the most in character thing he could do l b r.

also lmao @ you and @madchen both coming to the same conclusion. i’ll cosign beast of darkness fucking femto/ngriff from behind.

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Jesus I just saw the wrong translation. That’s so awful.

yeah, i mean i can’t get too mad at the scanlation specifically bc the dark horse version has corkus throw around the f slur at least once that i recall (i mean i assume that at least was an anti-gay insult in the orig but yk the casual jokey context seems to ask for a less intense word there js), but honestly it’s kind of hilarious how bad and just ooc that dialogue is regardless

like every time i see one of the old scanlations it becomes a little clearer to me why i feel like i’m reading a different story than half the fandom.

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I also think homeboy would get reeeeaallllyyyy salty about people not taking social science or history seriously? Like some asshole would say something disparaging about qualitative methods and he would go off.
#projection station

lol i think his intensity about what he does combined with his general ability to take almost everything in stride would equal simple but effective (and maybe passive aggressive) retorts to stuff like that lol. wittier comments than i could come up with.

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he can wear suits and slacks and stuff i just think it’s criminal that theres next to no griffith in dresses/skirt content bc hed look incredible wtf…
guts likes it be Thighs

strong agree

@yesgabsstuff said:
Omg lady cop Casca 

she would look so good in the uniform so i’m ok with this. also i think there’d be good potenital there for her to get disillusioned. corruption, maintaining of the status quo, etc.

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i really think this is the true ending

honestly tho. griffith’s narrative is 110% about the dream vs guts and if that’s not still the case i’ll eat my hat. it’s what it’s all building towards.

@yesgabsstuff said:
Omg Guts is so a stunt
driver or some other bullshit job where he could actually hurt himself.
His whole arc is realizing that while he’s not getting drunk and
getting into fights with strangers at bars he’s still self destructive
with ~love~ in his life. 

yeah i feel like any job guts has in a modern au should be something physical that also takes skill, something he can do as a mental distraction, and something that can potentially be self destructive lol.

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May I add that I can imagine Guts very well as a kendo teacher in modern au? 

Ooh yeah I like this idea. Something physical and skilled, that preserves his fighting ability, plus I think he would be a good teacher. (we see him w/ isidro i guess, and that seems to be going well).

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You’re good! ❤️ And like it’s so hard to talk about because it pisses me off when this kind of personal/cultural wearing down of women’s self esteems happens to other women. And like as much as you would like to think that you somehow avoided all that you really don’t. Anyway sometimes how you get woke is you get tossed around by life a lot. I hope Casca gives them hell.

yeah it’s so all-encompassing and like, exhausting to think about sometimes lol. not to mention, yk, living it. And yeah here’s hoping.

I’ve just been having feelings about Casca lately that are probs 90% projection. We’ve talked about this before I think the most likely explanation of Casca’s character arc revolving around feelings about the men around her (that therefore must be romantic) is misogyny. But it’s also shitty and #relatable because despite being in an atypically profession for women Casca is a Good Girl. And as someone who was raised to be that way you are pretty much trained to be this way by your parents.

And once we bring in the after effects of multiple traumas and possible
closeted feelings it gets even more complicated because I really did
just throw myself into my relationships, both platonic and romantic. So
basically it’s not good writing but it’s all weird and complicated for
me as someone who relates more and more to her as I get older.

Makes me wish we got more pre-Hawks backstory for Casca, what her family life was like, yk, other than her parents selling her lol, to have more of a foundation for her character.

but like this is legit. idk projecting on media is a time-honoured tradition, and if it makes it more entertaining or meaningful or understandable or w/e then it’s probably the best thing to do lol.

I don’t identify with Casca rly myself (I mean tbqh I almost never relate much to fictional characters on a personal level lol, I have kind of a disconnect there) but it absolutely makes her narrative more interesting to me if eg I read her desire to “give something” to the men in her life sexually as a result of trauma and being rescued/feeling like she owes them, rather than Miura just being a misogynist who thinks its romantic.

like idk exactly where to draw the line between ‘good writing’ and ‘bad but makes a surprising amount of sense if you look at it in a certain way writing’ anyway lol.

(btw I think I saw that you replied to one of my posts a couple times around when you sent these but they don’t show up on my activity page bc tumblr is broken so idk lol)

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Also the placement of the panels where Guts is angrily swinging his sword around at the same time Griffith is being given peerage has a lot of fodder for that as well. Griffith is kissing a noble’s sword when the one he really wants to be kissing is being kept on the outside of his dream by design…..

YES lmao, this reminds me of this half joke half serious post i wrote a while ago

https://bthump.tumblr.com/post/172009797586/chapter-one-serves-to-re-establish-the-characters

but yeah there’s no way that imagery is accidental. i mean ignore the phallic symbolism if u want, but those swords are deliberately being contrasted, + it foreshadows guts and griffith’s mutual self-imposed isolation from each other thru their dreams as symbolized by those swords right there

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My dream would be a scenario where if Guts does have a flashback that could be Serious Bonding Moment of Healing for them. Obviously they both know that they have to work together to make everything as okay as it’s going to be, but yeah. I hope both of them have it together enough know that what they have together is a different dynamic entirely from their previous experiences.
Guts I think is used
to thinking of himself as an outsider on some level so I think he may be
more emotionally equipped to handle the Gay Experience. Griffith
though, has a lot of aspirations to respectability so that part may be
harder for him even though I don’t think his men would give a flying
fuck. (I honestly think that Judeau would just owe Corkus money.)

i feel like it’s not necessarily a given that guts would have flashbacks his first time having sex with griffith too, since in canon he’s triggered by penetration in specific positions, i mean, there’s a good chance they’d start with handjobs and blowjobs etc anyway. one of the handy things about gay sex is that it doesn’t necessarily revolve around penetration by default assumption unlike het sex. plus since guts would maybe be more likely to anticipate like, strong negative feelings resurging during sex with a man as opposed to sex with a woman he might also have the presence of mind to start with non penetrative stuff.

so that way they’d have a chance to yk like, get used to sex with each other and get more intimate physically and emotionally, and both able to internalize the fact that their desire is reciprocated, before hitting a scenario that leads to guts flashbacking.

also yeah good point that guts could be more okay with his attraction to men than griffith. i tend to see griffith as understanding that he’s attracted to men and completely ignoring that fact bc his aspirations include marrying a specific woman and also he has hangups, but ofc i could also see him basically unaware and in denial.

and maybe if he does come to terms w/ it he can switch strategies to matchmaking charlotte and anna while making himself charlotte’s bff and then proposing a lavender marriage. happily ever after berserk au.

the only thing i disagree with is that i think corkus would owe judeau money if they were betting on griffith lol. but then corkus would immediately get it back thanks to guts anyway.

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Guts has zero social skills but I could see Griffith permitting a hug. Guts, understanding on some level where this is all coming from would be really sad and might say the right thing about not needing to do it this way? I don’t know. It may backfire spectacularly because Guts may go down the “Are my desires inherently predatory????!!!!” road and that helps no one. Poor things.

yeah mb if guts already knows he’s attracted to griffith and is coming to terms w/ that then he could salvage the situation and not get too freaked out and escalate it badly. though man it would be really really easy for him to fuck that up lol.

but i mean there are worst case scenarios but there are also best case scenarios. like eg i could see guts smoothly bypassing a sexuality crisis by going from ‘this is fine because griffith is so special he’s basically a category all on his own‘ to ‘ok yeah ik griffith is a dude but by now i’m p comfortable having sex w/ that dude so w/e’ and/or ‘ok now i’m having a flashback but we’re emotionally close and comfortable enough by now to turn it into a comforting bonding experience’

and i could see griffith having all these issues we’ve been discussing but not making it obvious for a while, so when he does slip up and reveal that he’s got some fucked up attitudes towards sex as transactional and/or something that makes him feel dirty/self loathing, their relationship is more solid and they’re more equipped to deal w/ it together.

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The incubus thing has really weird
implications I don’t want to think about and it’s weird as shit.

Just to be clear, sucubus and incubus are the same demons. As in they spend different times in their life cycle as both and must collect idk material from men to impregnate women. Assuming we’re talking about non-literal semen it gets weird when Guts is considered in all this. He spends time as the passive Neo-Griffith or human Griffith who struggles with being objectified and time as Femto. We will Not be literal about this, kids.

huh, i’ve never heard of this particular variation of incubi/succubi folklore, wild.

guess you could apply that to ngriff vs femto if you ignore the weird gender shit or just turn it into the fantasy monster version of being a switch lol. still gonna ignore anything eclipse related tho, and idk about ngriff being passive, sexually or otherwise, tho if u mean more like seductive then ia, but idk that’s prob beside the point when we’re talking about a semen go-between fantasy creature lmao.

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Evengelion is pretty interesting as a piece about mental illness and trauma/warfare that’s been written by an author who was depressed at the time he wrote it- as I greatly suspect Berserk is as well.

oh yeah i mean i’ve definitely argued that berserk is about trauma. i’ll chalk this up as another potential similarity, cool.

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My thoughts very much line up with yours. I tend to think being raised in an environment that was probably physically dangerous as well as living through periods of involuntary starvation probably cultivated his detachment. Also I’m not sure he thought of himself as attractive? Like he might see his looks as a vulnerability since the folks that have given him attention for it have hurt him.

yeah ia with this.

i’m sure he knows he’s attractive and probably cultivates it since yk he’s trying to marry a princess, but i don’t think it’s something he’d like, be proud of or that would feed his ego or anything. i think he’d deliberately try to see it in a utilitarian way rather than having any feelings about his looks, positive or negative, bc the less rational feelings he does have would probably be negative – beauty is an asset to achieving his dream (not just in marrying charlotte but also looking the part of the hero of midland and gaining general acceptance), but it’s also something he associates with being preyed on by gennon, so he focuses on the first part.

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This feels very fitting in the sense that all of Casca, Guts, and Griffith’s struggles for their own autonomy are rendered useless by people that are willing to use their lives/bodies as pawns. That’s just my thought.

oh yeah i didn’t really think of it that way, but good point.

kinda ties into how fate works almost lol. i mean in a way isn’t the idea of evil the ultimate paternalistic figure, ultimately orchestrating guts, casca’s and griffith’s encounters with the people who use them?

and this theory i threw out is kind of based on how causality determines when the behelit opens, but theoretically people can use that for their own ends, so it’s like an intersection of both fate and people using others. tho i didn’t rly say anything about that there i guess.

more spoilers ofc

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The. Fucking. Feathers.

thank you so it’s not just me thinking like

image

this is kinda suspect

also the helix in the necklace a la brand of sacrifice that i just noticed?

like i’m not saying danann dressed her in this to be secretly evil, but i’m thinking it’s subtle visual hinting re: the source of her trauma, hawks/sacrifice/griffith, and purposefully suggestive as a little added layer of ominousness

i mean i’d take it as coincidence considering it’s mostly petals in the dress, but those hairpieces, man

One thing I noticed about the scene where Griffith gives Casca the sword is that he tells her “If you have something to protect, pick up that sword.” It makes me sad that he feels guilt about the way that his dream has to be accomplished then because he’s already laid out that this is a real matter of life and death/basic autonomy for him in that sentence. Just a thought.

ngl while my “official” take is that the dream started out as a stupid kid’s fantasy and snowballed horrifically and gained deeper significance as a coping mechanism/escape after the kid’s death and gennon (i’m pretty sure we’ve had some conversations about this ages ago lol), every time I read the scene where he saves Casca I’m like, nope there’s gotta be something else going on there.

He just lays everything out so plainly (”does being born of the nobility mean you’ve been chosen by god?” “if you have something to protect, take up that sword,” “you know how to fight already, don’t you?” “you might die you know,”) that it’s like, there’s no way the kid’s death and gennon was his wake-up call to how shitty the world is, everything’s already in place right here.

Like I guess it can’t be more than headcanon because if there was more to his story I’m sure Ubik would’ve said something while he was fucking with him to make the sacrifice, but chapter 16 like, establishes all of Griffith’s motivations/attitude towards nobility/making sure everyone follows him of their own choice/etc, which really seems to indicate that the kid’s death and gennon wasn’t the beginning of his bitterness re: people’s lives being bought and sold by nobles and his guilt re: ppl dying for his dream. It’s just like, an example.

lol in short, ia!

@yesgabsstuff yeah from an ignoring-Miura’s-authorial-intent pure character perspective I think I’d lean towards internalized homophobia as the strongest reason behind Griffith’s self-loathing there. (Also tbf this was before any torture actually started happening, besides the King whipping him.)

When you think about it, it’s likely that his only experience with attraction to and sex with men was w/ Gennon, the pedophilic rapist, and it would make perfect sense for me to see Griffith as horrified of his own attraction to Guts being similar in any way. And there’s a good chance he’d see same sex attraction as intrinsically predatory bc of his own personal history.

Also, this is slightly an aside but like wrt his feelings for Guts being pure or not like, I really don’t give a fuck personally about Griffith accepting the possibility of killing Guts and within Berserk I hardly feel like it’s even that terrible lol, both Casca and Serpico have gone a step further and actively tried to kill Guts and we’re supposed to like them just fine. “If I can’t have him,” does give it an extra layer of possessiveness, but part of the point of the torture chamber scene is that Griffith realizes that and knows it was a fucked up irrational reaction and not actually what he wants.

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@bthump Right? Like that’s a literally batshit crazy thing to say to someone and Guts is just like “wow he really cares.” I was 100% sold on the two of them as a deal and on the series after that.

oops i almost missed this but lmao yeah. and like that was guts’ reaction to griffith fighting him when he tried to leave too. griffith’s not the only one with a ridic concept of friendship.

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I mean, if you want my two cents on the regression, I don’t buy it? Like she would have been 100% entitled to lose her shit but I don’t think she would have I guess? I was talking to @berserkerlover221​ and I was just thinking that if that was the response women had every time a man they trusted raped them there would be a hell of a lot more completely regressed people.

like i’m no psychiatrist but i’m pretty damn sure casca’s reaction is 100% unrealistic fictional bullshit miura threw in to remove her from the narrative. you could argue that no one irl has ever been gangraped by monsters and an immortal demon god with powers of evil so maybe it’s fantasy magic at work, but then again miura also did the exact same thing when guts’ mother had a miscarriage so…

idk how one dude can write some traumatized characters so well and others so badly lol. like there is such a world of difference between guts griffith casca farnese and serpico’s reactions to their childhood traumas, and current casca’s generically ~wacky and childish insanity that it floors me that one guy wrote it all. i mean casca is a funny cartoonish background event throughout most of the last couple arcs. it’s just incredible.

All of that being
said, that seems to be something that he’s returning to thematically so
it might not be 100% sexisim and not knowing what to do with her. Maybe
just 90% 

yeah i’m hoping he plans to do something with her after she gets magical elfhelm therapy, and hopefully that something is awesome and epic and relevant enough to justify even a fraction of how she’s been reduced for 20 years. idk, cross my fingers I guess.