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seisans
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with complex characters like these there’s always that risk that the anime staff is going to try to assign them a trope. i think that happened with guts and casca

oops i missed this the other day. but yeah it def feels like that’s what happened. and ngl I also kind of wonder if they thought G*tsca was too sudden in the manga lol, and felt it needed more build up.

seisans
replied to your post “Why do you assume Guts is gay for Griffith because he doesn’t like men…”

you’re right anon griffith did not enjoy his sexual contact with charlotte. because he is gay
unless you’re talking about gennon in which case you’re right he did not enjoy that. because it was  rape

more important information for that one anon

seisans
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yeahhh, especially when translating japanese into english. happy to heeeeeeelp? but i wish we had an actual translator in the griffith apologist subfandom, that’d be rad since SO much is lost in translation no matter how hard you try to stay true to the original

yeah tbh I think DH did a good job in general in balancing accuracy w/ tone/character voices/flow/general readability/etc but i’d love to see more translations of scenes with notations and explanations and stuff that just can’t be conveyed otherwise. especially griffguts and griffith related bc yeah, the people who do generally do this in berserk fandom tend to be pretty biased against certain readings lol.

seisans
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sorry i keep going on about this but, although i’m not sure, i think there’s kind of a difference between just ‘sonna’ and ‘sonna koto nai’. ‘sonna’ leaves the main objection unsaid, and is often used as a reaction to hearing something upsetting. i’ve seen it translated as “why would you/don’t say (something like) that!” i’ve also seen it translated as just “that…!” or “that’s…!” and so on, it’s really hard to translate accurately
 now, in the 1997 anime she says
“sonna…!!” in that ‘reaction to upsetting thing’ tone, but in the
original manga it’s just “so–!!” and that, i feel, could be pretty much
anything starting with ‘sonna’ or ‘sore’ or w/e. one thing is for sure,
it’s not full on denial, since she cuts herself off. but yeah

i love your translation explanations and stuff, it’s rly interesting to me. I guess translations are never that straightforward, there’s so much to consider, but I love having all the additional info I can lol, so ty for going on about it!

seisans
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i mean really bad translators can fuck anything up but cutting dialogue off when it’s not cut off in the original doesn’t … really … i can’t say that it happens often lol. a misinterpretation of what she was trying to say IS possible, but having looked at the original now, there’s really nothing else that comes to mind other than “sonna (koto nai)” when a person stops after “so–” and also that scan is dark horse right? they’re pretty good at their job

yep it’s dark horse.

i’ve seen some scanlations where they’ll leave stuff out if they can’t translate it but deliberately cutting off a word would seem really weird lol.

and yeah i’ll take your word for it about the whole phrase being intended to be assumed to be “sonna koto nai.” It makes perfect sense in context and seems pretty straightforward.

seisans
replied to your post “I saw someone claim to be psychiatrists with degree in psychology made…”

lmao @ people claiming to be psychiatrists and then using the word ‘psychopath’ instead of what they really mean, which is ASPD, the criteria of which griffith does not fit. like at all. he is some flavour of mentally ill though so congrats for picking up on that!!

lmao yeah i was kind of wondering bc i thought “psychopath” isn’t an actual diagnosis.

honestly i think to a lot of people character does a bad thing + behaviour i personally can’t relate to/possible mental illness symptoms = psychopath.

plus if it lets them deny the character’s capacity to feel love for a member of the same sex, they’ll leap on it. also see: hannibal, even though it’s been stated in the show that he’s not a psychopath lol.

seisans
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this is why in every au i imagine casca and guts as siblings … it’s literally perfect they have such a good platonic dynamic

I feel this tbh. Thinking about how much better their relationship, and the manga in general, would be if their relationship stayed platonic bums me out lol. It would’ve been so superior.

seisans said: is guts watching ‘cause griffith is cute
or is griffith cute ‘cause guts is watching?

asking the real questions. maybe he’s born with it, maybe it’s off the charts romantic chemistry

seisans
replied to your post “*it’s not griffguts tho I LOVE your thoughts and meta ❤* Do you think…”

tbh the whole “little white spirit is moonlight boy” thing is a little too on the nose for me, miura doesn’t tend to beat people over the head like that generally? and also another thing that makes ppl think it’s like a part of griffith’s soul or w/e is its hair, and honestly that’s more convincing to me than the whole “you’re like some playful kid” thing

I see what you mean about the hair, tho I could see that as the pure light astral version of MB’s hair. But yeah Miura does kind of slap you upside the head with significant shots of MB after astral kid saves Guts, so it would be an interesting twist if they were 2 different beings. Esp since despite those obvious connection shots (I don’t have any saved and I’m too lazy to try to find them rn but yk what I mean) Guts does still pose the question of who Astral kid is instead of assuming it’s MB because they show up at the same time, which suggests that it’s still meant to be up in the air.

seisans
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yeah ia, it’s not actually that ooc when you think about it, just, like you said, seems out of place when you consider the rest of the story

yeah, tonally it’s way off lol. tbh i think of at least the first two arcs as a bit of a deconstruction of the 80s masculine antihero type (miura did say he was partially inspired by 80s action movies + i think he mentioned rutger hauer by name at some point) and it fits right in with establishing the archetype and then feels rly weird when you start tearing it down and getting to know guts. so i like the additional explanation to make it work a bit on both levels.

seisans
replied to your post “i forgot ALL of berserk EVER started with guts balls deep in some…”

it’s clear that miura also wanted to hook his straight male audience but it’s also kind of clever bc it’s ironic and i hate it

yeah true, i have a tendency to forget the majority straight dude audience lol.

tbh it’s kind of hilarious that guts has had sex a grand total of twice and one time was an edgy opening scene with a monster. it’s so comparatively out of place as a character-establishing moment i can’t help but like it.

(otoh i’ve seen a p convincing argument that it’s actually more ic for guts than you’d think. in the sense that the way he tends to kill apostles is to let them attack him until he’s in a position to blow them up. in this case the apostle sexes victims up so yk, i can actually see it from that point of view. not cause guts is cool and hardcore, but bc guts is self destructive. ~layers~)

sorry if you’ve been asked this before but, if you like astrology, (COSMOLOGY OF THEIR UNIVERSE ASIDE) do you have any headcanon signs for the berserk characters? i always struggle with this bc they’re so complex that i feel like i’d have to come up with an entire chart, not just the sun sign, for each of them. so you can do sun signs or sun+ascendant+moon if you like, that might be a little more complex. bonus question: what’s your sign, if you don’t mind sharing?

tbh I barely know anything about astrology so I’d be pretty useless at sorting the characters, sorry.

I’m going to post this though bc I’m curious about anyone else’s thoughts, for anyone who sees this and has more sign knowledge than me. Including you, i’d love you hear your headcanons if you have any!

I’m a libra, and I just used one of those online chart calculators so apparently I’m an aries moon and cancer ascendant too. How about you?

seisans
replied to your post “yk one thing i can say for the berserk ovas is that, even though they…”

god agreed the reason i love those films so much (apart from the fact that griffith looks gorgeous in them) is bc you can just TELL the people who made them get it

ooh and speaking of griffith looking gorgeous i adore all the character design, especially griffith (that lovingly animated curly hair, man) but everyone looks fantastic. it’s rly too bad they didn’t go past the golden age and we just got a few glimpses of their take on the later characters in the credits and a couple cameos. more ovas >>>>>> berserk 2016/7

seisans
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i have to laugh when people talk about the plot of berserk like it’s heading towards guts killing griffith w/o a second thought and getting his hetero happy ending with casca because they’re completely missing clues like these

ikr there’s just so much you have to skip over or ignore or willfully misunderstand to assume that

ngl sometimes i get cynical and start thinking like, but what if everything i love about berserk was just a fluke and miura intended to write a basic maybe slightly downer grimdark revenge story and just accidentally filled it with really interesting complexity? but then i re-read a chapter or two and i’m like ‘lol nvm’

seisans
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yeah that’s basically what i thought it was, unless by symbolic you mean not actually there? ig that’s a possibility too. but shit you’re right it can also be seen as two parallel lines …… i literally never noticed that. miura speak the fuck up what’s the truth

yeah I mean not actually there bc Guts’ sword didn’t actually hit him, but we see it bc Griffith basically wishes he had a scar from Guts. Which also works rly well to me bc it mirrors Casca later wishing she had a scar from Guts and is therefore even gayer.

tbh at this point it’s all guess work and headcanon lol, so like, I just go with whatever I’m feeling in the moment. lbr miura + clarity is like oil and water sometimes.

seisans
replied to your post “i was browsing thru all the pages i have saved looking for smthn to…”

the thing that i find confusing is it’s not 4 scratch marks from 4 fingers, it’s one scar that’s thicker than his individual fingers. when i was first reading the manga and noticed the scar i was like “wait, he got wounded? i thought the whole point was that guts stopped just before the blade sunk in” and then i went back and re-read the duel and confirmed that there was no wound so i was like??? maybe griffith purposely did it in that spot because guts did not wound him
your theory is way better it just does not look like scratch marks it’s one giant scar, right where guts almost hit him

I’ve heard this a lot and tbh I used to think that it was one inexplicable big scar myself but if u look at the 2nd to last image i posted in that thing, where he’s tracing it, you can see how both “sides” line up exactly with his two fingers. So I still think it’s def 2 parallel scratch marks from 2 fingers. Just like, drawn slightly confusingly.

The movie actually turns it into 4 red scratches. Not sure what the anime does if it depicts it, I should check that lol, I’m kind of curious now.

Though the theory I’ve heard that goes with the “it’s one big scar” that I like is that it’s a symbolic depiction of Griffith wishing Guts’ sword had hit him. It makes most sense to me that it’s scratch marks but that’s also quite a nice concept imo.

seisans
replied to your post “i was thinking about how much I don’t want the plot to be advanced by…”

hhhhhhhhhh god i need more of shit like this i’m starved. characters caring but not realising they care and accidentally making it obvious to everyone but themselves is one of my fav tropes

saaaaame like, that’s easily one of my favourite things about the golden age, i’m desperate for a reprise.

my ideal ending definitely involves griffith doing something stupid and irrational again bc of guts. like i can’t think of anything more perfectly fitting.

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dhksdhsk imagine poor old lady flora having to explain to both of these losers that the other guy likes them and that they should just go for it

lmao i feel like she’d start out amused and get very exasperated very quickly. this would not be a fun job.

and YEAH god that
stuck with me forever, little baby rickert knowing what’s up better than
guts who was closest to griffith. i mean it wasn’t surprising at all
but. next time someone tries to deny griffguts is a thing i’m gonna be
like, this 13 year old child gets it and you don’t
and np! the offer
stands if anyone ever finds themselves needing something translated (i’m
still far from fluent but it shouldn’t be too hard)

honestly it’s like this fandom is full of corkuses who think griffith is above emotion lol, like corkus’ denial is not meant to be agreed with, he’s meant to be kind of an idiot and Rickert Was Right. and ty that’s rly generous, I’ll keep your offer in mind!

like bl has pointed out i hate
how casca passively internalising pain is accidentally relatable to
women when i’m pretty sure miura was just being a misogynist like always

yeaaaaah like it can be such a mess to try to sort out what miura intended as a commentary on sexism and what miura wrote because he’s a huge fucking misogynist lol, but i def think casca’s narrative from the eclipse on falls mostly into the latter category. i mean her narrative in general falls mostly into the latter category lbr, but especially the eclipse and mental regression bs. also agreed on his art from about 05 on lol.

seisans
replied to your post “why is every sufjan stevens song so griffguts”

ok wow i just listened to the song you reblogged (i never listened to his songs bc i suck at keeping up with musicians) and holy shit ……. holy fucj

ikr! i haven’t listened to a whole lot of his music but also check out john my beloved, drawn to the blood, to be alone with you, and fourth of july for those griffguts feels imo. tbh it’s probably bc so many of his songs are gay with religious vibes.

this is unrelated but i’ll use this post as an excuse to bring up the fact that modern au griffith loves lady gaga 

yesss

seisans
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whenever i let myself be emo about berserk i have to face the realisation that no matter what they’d done differently this would have happened ‘cause fate and shit but actually you’re right. you’re right. a single kiss would have flipped everything

i guess fate probably knew/made sure that wouldn’t happen, but if it did somehow, yeah. wait isn’t it like a thing that witches and stuff are kind of outside of fate? flora should’ve showed up and played matchmaker to fuck with the ioe lol

also i wouldn’t call
rickert a dumb kid, idk if it makes sense for him to be smarter than the
hawks and the nobles but he’s kind of a genius and he’s known griffith
longer than any of them. he’s also seen how he plans and make things
work in his favour, not to the extent guts has seen it, for example, but
he knows griffith is not the most innocent person on the planet, you
know 

yeah v true, calling him a ‘dumb kid’ is a little mean and v unreflective of how i think of him bc i like him a lot, i just… talk like that sometimes lol. he is actually rly insightful w/ both ppl and machines. he was also the one who pointed out that griffith went to pieces bc Guts left when he was like 13 or whatever.

Also ty for the offer wrt the raws! i’m kind of terrible at finding stuff like that and it looks like dark horse is on it now anyway but i appreciate it!

seisans
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yeah same basically, i’m constantly suffering from golden age nostalgia, and this is subjective but it doesn’t help that miura’s drawing style has also changed so drastically that it just … lacks personality. veering heavily into “it’s not perfectly suited to my tastes so i don’t like it” territory but i feel like there’s some objective truth in there. too much has changed and i’m being whiny about it

legit, like there’s no denying it has changed a lot since the golden age so it’s pretty inevitable that lots of people are going to prefer some part of Berserk over another. idt i’ve ever liked a thing without preferring some part of it over another lol, almost every show eg i’ve ever been into had some seasons i’ve hated, and while I’ve never hated any era of Berserk I’m definitely more lukewarm about some of it.

seisans
replied to your post “Unpopular opinion i guess but i really miss the grimdark tone of the…”

agreed & i just wanna add like not only did the golden age arc end with the Eclipse, which is just about the best way to wrap up an arc that i can personally imagine, but also, it really wasn’t that long, and it was incredibly well paced. now you’re right about things seeming way more off when you’re reading an ongoing manga that frequently goes on hiatus, but i remember during my last re-read everything felt too drawn-out and frankly i couldn’t give a shit about guts-
-and his new party, even though i liked farnese and serpico. my own
fault for liking griffith way too much but i’m bored! and this all had
better be heading somewhere or i swear to god

Yeeeaaah. Like honestly if Berserk ended with Guts’ war declaration, like, I’d desperately want more ofc but I feel like it would work as a self-contained story. The Black Swordsman arc has this v blatant subtext of Guts becoming similar to Griffith, including picking up the behelit, that gets clear after reading the Golden Age so it would feel like a depressing cycle. 

Tbh the first time I read the post-eclipse stuff it felt like a slog, but the second time it actually seemed better paced to me. Still long, but i enjoyed the fights more – maybe bc I was picking up on and thinking about a lot of details. Aside from the whole Sea God thing, that was just too much lol. But yeah the Golden Age was really tight – it was long for a flashback but as a story it does feel perfectly paced to me.

Idk I think part of my problem here is that the Golden Age is just so fantastic and so perfectly suited to my specific tastes in fiction that nothing could possibly compare lol. Again, not perfect, like I could write a long list of various ways it offends me lol, but despite that it’s like my ideal story.

I’m still enjoying Berserk after it, but not to the same extent, and a lot of my enjoyment does come from the foundation of the Golden Age informing the characters, and like, searching for hints about how Guts and Griffith’s story is going to be resolved (and whether or not Casca will finally become her own person).

seisans
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Actually, now that you mention it, I never…”

i feel like there’s something to be said about guts seeing her as small and vulnerable considering the fact that, i like breezed through the awful sex scene each time i read this manga but, im pretty sure he kept flashing back to his rape which. makes me so sad. under normal circumstances i’d be annoyed about a man seeing a woman as something small and weak but with guts it just makes me feel like he feels bad sexualising her? and that makes me happy
though disclaimer again i never paid attention to their thing so im mostly talking out of my ass here

yeah yk i feel like the way he sees her as smaller and vulnerable, plus the virgin-y awkwardness, does tonally lead directly to his flashback so I could def see Guts feeling that tbh. it’s a shame that Guts’ flashback is bookended by an awkward het sex scene bc imo it was mostly handled rly well and Guts’ breakdown is super touching and painful. But then they pick up where they left off and suddenly the sex is less awkward and it has this “Guts’ emotional scars are fixed bc he finally talked about his issues, yay” vibe that I sideeye.