griff-guts
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i think they might be referring to the video game series?? which is what the anime is based off of. the game series is like on par with dark souls almost in terms of levels of berserk vibes lol

oh if that’s the case then I’m only technically familiar with the series in that I know it exists and I vaguely recall watching my brother play one on nes when I was like 6 lol.

ihni what the later games are like tho now i’m kinda curious since I’ve heard a lot about how Dark Souls is extremely Berserk-y.

sobadpink
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I hope she comes back as a kickass villain friend

lol i’m never sure if replies to things i’ve reblogged are meant for me or the op but either way, super agree, theresia showing back up to get revenge would be amazing

madchen
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tbh that’s it besides some quirks with laurent and his history him and griffith are pretty different imho. damien and guts are way different besides being big and more physical
like imho damen has his shit together way more than guts lol

ty, yeah I didn’t really see any personality similarities between damen and guts. i don’t know anything about laurent yet tho so i can’t judge there, but I’m not really expecting serial-numbers-filed-off-berserk-fanfiction I guess lol.

there’s a second opinion for you anon!

Hi! Do you have any other ships like Griffith x Guts you love? Like, from movies or books maybe?

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I can only think of a couple suggestions lol, and I might’ve been unnecessarily detailed since neither ship is all that obscure and you’ve probably heard of them, but w/e you gave me an excuse to compare them to griffguts lol and I’m taking it. so ty.

The first is Ryokira (manga version especially), which is kind of obvious and often compared to Griffguts since Berserk is partly inspired by Devilman. Both are friends to enemies ships, both involve inner darknesses and divine transformations/reveals, both have very convoluted borderline incestuous resurrection plots lmao, both have a blond in love with his bff and jealous of his bff’s sort-of-not-really girlfriend, both have one character ruining his whole life goal because he fell in love.

Ryokira is nice because it’s canon – even requited canon in the sequels, though you have to read Devilman Lady for that, and that’s a tall order lmao. There’s some fuck shit going on w/ homophobic (and transphobic) concepts of how same-sex attraction and gender intersect in both Devilman and Devilman Lady, but if you can power thru that it’s def worth reading the original manga, and like… worth reading a summary of DL lol.

And the other is H@nnigram from NBC’s H@nnibal!

tbh there are actually a surprising amount of similarities imo:

  • mutual pining
  • friends to enemies
  • betrayal
  • one character begins to succumb to his inner darkness because he wants revenge on the other
  • one character is so in love with the other he destroys his own life and that love is the direct cause of his subsequent imprisonment
  • one character tries to escape his own life-destroying feelings by killing the other and fails (fails way harder than Griffith tbh, who at least partially succeeded)
  • both characters are lonely – one is antisocial, one is very social but hides his true self – and their connection is the only thing that assuages that loneliness for both of them.
  • one character reacts to perceived rejection after letting the other “see” him very badly
  • one character thinks about the other after (and probably during) sex

unlike Griffith H@nnibal is “evil” from the beginning so h@nnigram’s initial friendship has layers of deception and it’s pretty fucked up, and most of the romantic subtext and text happens after they become enemies. However also unlike Griffguts, H@nnigram is canonized at the end, and none of the het love interests last. Plus there’s no sexual assault.

Tbh I actually highly, highly recommend H@nnibal. It’s very weird and surreal with the most fun (imo) self-awarely pretentious bordering on campy tone, and 3 of the 4 main characters end up in same-sex romances. Also like, the Hannigram journey of ever-escalating subtext to absolutely incredible proportions until they finally just admit they’re in love is the most fun I’ve ever had watching a tv show ngl. And at only 3 seasons w/ 13 eps each it doesn’t take too long to get through.

vriska and terezi from homestuck are the
femslash hyper intense it’s complicated and our grief moves allegorical
mountains equivalent to griffguts that everyone whines about wanting
that being said
homestuck is literally a million words long and requires a good
appreciation of detail and meta to get into but its funny and enjoyable
you just have to chill out

oh yeah i’ve seen you mention them a lot in comparison

i
can’t lie i’m never gonna be able to get into homestuck but it’s good
to throw out there for anyone more able to read it than i am lol

miss-soso-25
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I’ve literally never read a more shallow and lame interpretation of a character before, omggg ��

lol that’s not a character interpretation, that’s a critique of berserk. I literally just quoted her dialogue and explained what sucks about it.

But hey if you have a deep and meaningful interpretation of her chapter 45-46 monologue about how first she was in love with Griffith and then she started feeling things for Guts and that’s the root of every decision she’s made since she was twelve, I’d love to hear it. It’s not like I enjoy Miura’s misogynistic writing.

Like, she literally, straightforwardly describes basing her entire identity around her romantic feelings for Griffith, to the point where when she started feeling something for Guts she felt fundamentally changed and it freaked her out. Idk how you’d defend that writing choice or why you’d want to tbh.

flooracle
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Kinda does! 😮 To me it comes off as he’s finally found a social order he can get behind and will do whatever is necessary (by his morals) to uphold it. Nothing personal for Griffith like Guts.

yeah ia, locus’ devotion to griffith really feels way more like a knight to a king or even symbol, rather than anything personal. which is fitting for neogriffith who doesn’t seem like he’s had a personally revealing interaction ever lol, and it makes a great contrast to human griffith and his relationship w/ guts, and even the rest of the hawks too.

flooracle
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I think that if he did it, he retaliated a direct attack on God (more or less) because of his knightly code, not despite.

yeah i could see it tbh. His loyalty to Griffith def seems like his highest priority and if he did it it comes across as a demanding satisfaction kind of thing lol. Also kinda mirrors Guts being all too happy to assassinate Julius after he slapped Griffith (not that guts has a knightly code, but yk)

@seisans said: i honestly love how many references berserk has it’s like a treasure hunt

ikr, from things like star wars to ridiculously obscure stuff like random pulp fantasy novels. idk if this is an intentional ref but knowing some other weird things miura references it wouldn’t even surprise me that much lol.

madchen
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he can wear suits and slacks and stuff i just think it’s criminal that theres next to no griffith in dresses/skirt content bc hed look incredible wtf…
guts likes it be Thighs

strong agree

@yesgabsstuff said:
Omg lady cop Casca 

she would look so good in the uniform so i’m ok with this. also i think there’d be good potenital there for her to get disillusioned. corruption, maintaining of the status quo, etc.

madchen
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griffith wear knits and boots
high pony tail

occasional skirt

nice! also sorry i keep adding this stuff to your comments lol but i’m getting all invested in this nonexistent character arc of modern au griffith making peace w/ himself and dropping the conformity act and going full somewhat fem house husband

also speaking of hair now i’m thinking modern griffith w/ his long perfect hair as like, the one thing he just can’t bring himself to change to be more conventional and masc in whatever career path he’s taking.

seisans
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i really think this is the true ending

honestly tho. griffith’s narrative is 110% about the dream vs guts and if that’s not still the case i’ll eat my hat. it’s what it’s all building towards.

@yesgabsstuff said:
Omg Guts is so a stunt
driver or some other bullshit job where he could actually hurt himself.
His whole arc is realizing that while he’s not getting drunk and
getting into fights with strangers at bars he’s still self destructive
with ~love~ in his life. 

yeah i feel like any job guts has in a modern au should be something physical that also takes skill, something he can do as a mental distraction, and something that can potentially be self destructive lol.

@jaeger-der-nacht said:
May I add that I can imagine Guts very well as a kendo teacher in modern au? 

Ooh yeah I like this idea. Something physical and skilled, that preserves his fighting ability, plus I think he would be a good teacher. (we see him w/ isidro i guess, and that seems to be going well).

madchen
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listen its the best option. he can work from home or whatever but let him soak up the feeling of being loved and needed and doing whatever just for himself bc he feels like it with no obligation to anyone else
like griffith would love being domestic r u kidding me

lol i feel like this is griffith’s idealized state of being but also the struggle it would take to reach it would be wild

kissing-monsters
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The OVAs are also very pretty which balances out some of the odd choices in what they cut out etc. IMO
(But also I agree the ‘97 anime is the best)

oh true I love the character design in the ovas way more than the anime, and not just bc of the different styles. that’s a huge selling point lol.

tho ngl while i’m less a fan of the anime character design i do love that 90s animation look in general. plus the intro and outro songs.

seisans
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same god tho i tend to prefer canon anyway so that works out

yeah same and one nice thing about berserk is that canon aus (or whatever you call AUs where it’s basically same as canon but one thing happened differently, which are my fave kind of aus) are so full of possibilities and fun to think about without changing the characters at all

seisans
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yeah exactly that, and i don’t really like assigning an imaginary personality that i would personally enjoy .. to him? you know what i mean? so i’m just like, yeah i wish i knew which rpdr queens he would like, that’d tell me a lot about him

yeah this is a lot of why I kind of suck at modern au concepts. unless I can come up with a strong modern equivalent to his life in canon I feel like I’m not creative enough to fill in the blanks lol.

(so like, eg if there was a queen who tends to take huge risks and forces them through sheer effort to pay off or smthn I’d be like, he’d like her best bc we know he admires behaviour like that. otherwise, idk.)

seisans
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yeah, it’s just such a fun show that it’s hard to think about this when we don’t really know griffith when he’s at his most relaxed. or what he REALLY likes about other people. like pretty much all the queens work hard (though some obviously stand out) but some are look queens, some have personalities that really stand out, some are funny, and i’m like well i could see him appreciating all of this so … idk

yeah actually true, bc we don’t know much about griffith’s feelings about anything that isn’t yk, important + deep stuff. when it comes to shallow thoughts on things he’s kind of a closed book. so yeah, I guess I can’t read Berserk and say he’d prefer a britney spears lipsynch to a lady gaga one lol, or someone who prioritizes surreal looks vs comedy.

seisans
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i mean he’s gay so like sure yeah in a modern au he’d most likely be watching drag race. can’t take this any further because it’s so removed from canon that it’s hard to come up with anything that isn’t just my own opinions
like which queens he’d like and which not … who tf knows

idk since it’s a reality show w/ strong personalities you could probably argue he’d eg identify with A and therefore love (or hate) her, or admire B’s drive and unceasing effort, or C’s ability to think outside the box, or whatever. Kinda wish I was more familiar with rpdr lol, it might be fun to think about.

@madchen said:
oh also griffith wants
guts to bridal style carry him when he’s real drunk and refuses to move
at all until guts picks him up he holds his arms outstretched
expectantly and everything 

lmao this is true and adorable

madchen
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wwww god i forgot how protective guts is of griffith. its so good and griff secretly loves it sm.

also yea to the wall lifting and arm wrestling
branching off of kink
whatever but it’s much easier to let yourself be taken care of when the
other person is much stronger and bigger than you and can basically wrap
himself all around you. big hugs.

yeah v true and like i think there’s def a part of griffith that’s v repressed that wants to just be taken care of and wrapped in big trustworthy arms

i’m sure i’ve said this b4 but honestly i think a big part of their relationship is about both of them wanting like the support/protection of the other. it’s more obvious w/ guts since griffith leaping into danger for him is a huge important plot thread, but it’s super true for griffith too and his need to have guts by his side “to the end.”