I have a bit of context for this through reading spoilers with abandon and that sounds… ominous. if something as long running as berserk that you need a lot of investment to get into completely falls down now that would suck a fuck tbh. I’d be so disappointed (keeping up with spoilers may actually save me £££ for more of the manga though at least. HM).
not to encourage illegal activity but hmu if you want a link to the official english translation online. i figure if you’ve already bought the golden age you’ve paid a fair price for the entirety of the series 😛
ALSO yeah. like the saving grace is that no matter what shit miura pulls, the golden age is closed canon and he can’t retroactively ruin it. *knocks on wood* but i s2g if he fucks with the emotional catharsis i want from a griffguts confrontation by inserting that fucking fetus where my actual emotional investment in whatever neogriffith is feeling could be, i will be happy to call berserk an overall failure of storytelling.
the return of my most hated fictional entity of all time: the fucking fetus
i haven’t seen an english translation yet but fetus(/moonlight boy) is like representitve to me of all the ways berserk could end up being absolutely terrible and disappointing so i’m 😡 about seeing it in casca’s mind right after imaginary guts fights imaginary femto
regardless of what the context might end up being i doubt it’s gonna make me happy. at the very least it seems like a strong indication that the fetus is influencing NeoGriff and Casca sensed it which, while not a final nail in the coffin yet, feels like a hammer poised to hit one
EXACTLY… also like i feel like. its Too sugary. and the most infantilized cascas ever textually been i think maybe? CASCAS LIKE… OLDER THAN FARNESE BY A GOOD HANDFUL OF YEARS… of course serpico knows very little about her and her past but still. Like. �� mister miura this better be a game and it best be coming to a close. im getting sick of playing
like tbh there is a ton of talk about Farnese growing thru taking care of Casca and Casca’s trust in Farnese and how Casca is the person Farnese misses most when she leaves temporarily and how no one else can take care of Casca like she can and now Farnese being the best candidate to help her get her mind back, yadda yadda yadda that summing up their relationship in an overly sweet way as child/caretaker-y siblings-esque right before Casca gets her mind back and that dynamic inevitably ends seems like a good way to segue into something more complex and interesting
like i don’t think miura’s gonna go full gay but he’s damn good at writing complex friendships full of gay subtext i’m js
it was in the more recent “guts rod and serp have boys night whilr the girls are doing business” chapter.
he talks about how much stronger fsrnese is now… becausr she has something to Protect…….. her silly little sister haha (:
ohhh lol i just went to double check and yeah, ugh.
oh well like that’s gonna stop me from hoping for vibes and subtext when casca wakes up 😛
see i told yall … it’s always like this, they use gay subtext to ~deepen the story~ lol
i missed this yesterday, but yeah lol. like idt it even matters what miura’s intentions are, if the gay subtext is only there to make the story feel deeper and more intense then it’s still there to be picked up on and enjoyed.
When the Eclipse happened in the edge era of the 90s, I get the need for Guts’ revenge thing or whatever. But into the 2000s and beyond for TWENTY YEARS? Casca was a really cool and interesting character, and there was so much that coulda been focused on after Griffith’s betrayal. It’s all just disappointing in an otherwise great character-heavy story
yeah ia p much. and the story feels so dragged out and a lot thinner than it did during the golden age, imo, like I don’t feel like there’s any reason it had to take this long.
he’s padding it out so they can sell more volumes is my guess. same thing happened with naruto. but yeah when it starts being like this, hiatus after hiatus, the author’s usually bored. which makes me really sad because i’m still attached to this story and its characters. but yeah tbh nothing would make me happier than learning that miura also pretty much only cares about griffguts (would be nice if he cared about casca too but that’s clearly asking too much)
damn that makes me sad too, bc yeah i love most of these characters and i need to see what happens. i guess i’ll hope that the fantasia arc is getting the half assed treatment bc it’s just set up for the eventual good stuff and he’ll switch on when he needs to, and he isn’t just sick of berserk in general.
like miura’s story choices genuinely baffle me sometimes … i guess he’s been writing this manga for like 20 years, he must have changed as a person or the editors are pressuring him to make Fun Relatable Content but like genuinely what the fuck happened to his ability to write interesting, compelling, grimy and realistic stories with appropriately timed humour … wtf is this whole dream sequence … i don’t know i’m tired like it all feels very shallow. not
counting falconia & neo griffith bc i think that’s on purpose.
half-assed is a good word, and it’s too idk literal? i can’t put it into
words but it does not compare to the masterpiece that was the golden
age on ANY level lol
yeaaaaaah, just yeah. it kinda feels like he’s bored of the story right now and going through the motions. though if that’s the case i can’t begin to guess why he’s also padding it tf out so much. i can only hope the quality goes back up when the narrative brings griffith and guts back together bc lbr that’s what we’re all waiting for, hopefully including miura.
and yeah i’m finding the current fix casca dream sequence really disappointing? like it’s a re-tread of the golden age, we’re not really learning anything new about casca at all, what could’ve been a thoughtful take on how casca has dealt with misogyny her whole life is instead a hoarde of dick monsters… like again, thank god for farnese bc her reactions and interactions with stick figure casca are the only parts i’m really enjoying. (tbf i haven’t read the latest chapter yet, so this doesn’t take that into account if something happens in it)
@kissing-monsters said: My friend who was reading Berserk and I
basically agree most strongly on Casca, we have been shouting about her
narrative being an awful waste of a potentially amazing character since
he started reading it because ugh it’s so true. She’s ruined by the
narrative choices.
yeah it’s so unfortunate because imo as a character she had so much potential to grow in interesting ways, and she was often so awesome and fun despite the narrative shorting her even in the golden age, and then boom, disintegrated for 20 literal years of writing time.
I mean, if you want my two cents on the regression, I don’t buy it? Like she would have been 100% entitled to lose her shit but I don’t think she would have I guess? I was talking to @berserkerlover221 and I was just thinking that if that was the response women had every time a man they trusted raped them there would be a hell of a lot more completely regressed people.
like i’m no psychiatrist but i’m pretty damn sure casca’s reaction is 100% unrealistic fictional bullshit miura threw in to remove her from the narrative. you could argue that no one irl has ever been gangraped by monsters and an immortal demon god with powers of evil so maybe it’s fantasy magic at work, but then again miura also did the exact same thing when guts’ mother had a miscarriage so…
idk how one dude can write some traumatized characters so well and others so badly lol. like there is such a world of difference between guts griffith casca farnese and serpico’s reactions to their childhood traumas, and current casca’s generically ~wacky and childish insanity that it floors me that one guy wrote it all. i mean casca is a funny cartoonish background event throughout most of the last couple arcs. it’s just incredible.
All of that being
said, that seems to be something that he’s returning to thematically so
it might not be 100% sexisim and not knowing what to do with her. Maybe
just 90%
yeah i’m hoping he plans to do something with her after she gets magical elfhelm therapy, and hopefully that something is awesome and epic and relevant enough to justify even a fraction of how she’s been reduced for 20 years. idk, cross my fingers I guess.
Like even the idea of “childishness” being a shared trait between them is a weird area of analysis and I’m not sure if Casca, outside of the choices that Miura made for her would be this way you know?
I feel like I need to take a hard look
at the later cannon at the children and see what I can gleam from them
in regards to both Griffith and Casca as well as Guts. I mean if you’re
looking at cosmic forces that play specifically on childish feelings
frozen by trauma I feel like it kind of links all of the story arcs
together more strongly
oops replied too soon
but yeah i was actually about to say in response to the first part that while comparing griffith and casca’s childishness seems like a stretch bc griffith was just a 15 yr old who was emotionally immature in some ways and casca is mentally regressed, both casca’s regression and griffith’s immaturity stem from coping with traumatic experiences so even if one’s subtle and realistic and the other is over the top and ridiculous you could draw similarities mb. even if it’s just because miura likes writing about traumatized people.
and then you added the second comment and i’m like welp mte.
tho idk if the current children have much to do with it, none of them seem to have any real issues, they’re just annoying window dressing imho.
Yeah. I don’t really have anything smart to add beyond that but I noticed that and was anxious.
well while farnese and guts’ reactions were pretty different iirc both incidences lead to greater understanding and some form of bonding (farnese apologizing). so i could see it.
The symbolism of Utena adapts to everything not only with Guts and Griffith. Even Farnese and Casca (this is long and I can not explain it here because I can not write much) but there is enough subtext … but I must say that it is strange that Miura has put many parallels of the love triangle of Griffith-Guts-Casca in the current one that is Guts-Farnese-Casca but it goes beyond that, it feels as if Miura is really going to develop something big between them two.
by the way I really
like your blog, you make good posts and finally someone who does not say
bullshit that Griffith is super cruel and did not feel anything for
Guts.
If you ever feel like writing a longer post about Farnese and Casca and Utena symbolism plz @ me because I’m v intrigued!
Also yeah the parallels are very interesting, like there are so many between post-Eclipse Guts and golden age Griffith. And lol since the first triangle lead to Guts and Casca hooking up I want to believe that means Casca and Farnese are going to hook up but tragically that’s probably wishful thinking. Guess we’ll find out where it’s all leading eventually.
And tyvm! Yeah ikwym it can be hard to find people who don’t completely diminish Griffith’s character in the Berserk fandom.
They also took the innocent and gentle smile Guts has in those moments and I’m not down with that.
lol yeah tbh that might be my number one issue with the anime. they just make guts look so much pissier and dour compared to the manga, it really gives the impression that he’s constantly discontent and resentful. like idk i feel like it’s the art style in large part, a lot of the expressions miura draws rely on subtleties that seem like they’d be way harder to convey in the style of the anime, but it’s still unfortunate
imo if confronted about his feelings for guts in some way, much like femto, he would probably try to give a Logical Explanation that has Nothing To Do With Him Being Gay, but first he would absolutely have to pause or flinch or something like that and we’d Know
lmao yes this is exactly what he would do and i would love it.
also
oh my god ppl take griffith saying that and are like “see he knew the eclipse was coming” like ……… what kind of reach
thinking griffith planned the eclipse sacrifice in advanced is the most baffling reading of all.
Aww thank you. I might. I’ve never actually written a fanfic before, but there’s so little content in the berserk fandom, it makes you wanna create more.
yeah ikwym, and it’s as good a place to start as any! i think everyone in this tiny fandom is kind of starving for more content ngl, i’d love to read whatever you wrote 🙂
About the tv tropes: It might not just be the homophobic readers. Sometimes I think the authors themselves are in denial of just how romantic the relationships they’ve created are. Like Miura has repeatedly said in interviews that all that “drama” is normal for male friendships, etc. Idk they might say this so the readership doesn’t drop.
Yeah true. When it comes to tv tropes it’s definitely the readers, but yeah lol it’s sadly the exception rather than the rule when a creator doesn’t no homo gay subtext or sometimes straight up text. And yeah ime it’s generally pretty hard to tell whether the denials are sincere or pr.
TRUE! Griff is Gut’s light. Honestly, what I want more than a final battle is Griff bringing Guts back from BM, or Guts going into Griffith’s mind like Casca = ensuing emotional breakdown/unfrozen heart. (& Guts meeting child Griff in his mind this I need) Griffith doesn’t need to die, he needs to become a sobbing mess of feelings.
I second this so hard, I would absolutely love if either of these things happened. And hey there’s been a lot of mind exploration with Schierke around, so again, totally possible.
seisans said: IM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT RYOUAKIRA MOMENT YES
it’s such a good moment omg
(lmao totally ot but i was browsing the devilman tv tropes page the other day for some stupid reason and there was literally an entry where someone mentioned that akira mysteriously regained his human heart with no explanation and it’s like !!! why are people like this. we literally see it happen on the page omg. i can get homophobes denying gay overtones but seeing them completely blocking climactic plot-relevant scenes out of their head because they’re gay is incredible to me.)
i’ve seen ppl speculate that he Let rickert slap him which …. hmm i don’t know about that. he certainly was surprised by it, tho ig he could let his “guard” down unintentionally
I could maybe see Griffith letting Rickert slap him because it doesn’t really matter and he’s letting Rickert give him an honest answer or w/e.
But what really gets me is Griffith’s silence in response to Rickert’s speech about how he’s loyal to his Griffith, not this Griffith. There’s no way that’s calculated, he just had nothing to say. All he’s got is “so it is,” in response to Rickert saying the insignias are different. Idk I love it, I can’t help but read that ambiguous silence as inner conflict and self doubt.
@chaoticgaygriffith@yesgabsstuff lol you mentioned me but tbh my opinion on this topic is basically exactly what you’re discussing in the comments so, +1
i guess one thing i can throw out tho is that
I kinda think on a narrative level the whole sequence from Guts waking up from his nightmare and then thinking of Griffith with this look in his eyes
to Griffith winning and Guts looking at him with the same look in his eyes
tells us that
there’s attraction between Guts and Griffith that can’t be
straightforwardly acted on because of their histories.
Like Guts clearly already wants Griffith’s attention despite getting uncomfortable and pissed off when he gets it, and the fact that instead of just walking away he proposes a bet where if he wins he can stab Griffith and if he loses he has to stay with him in a maybe sexual way, and either way they get to get up close and personal with swords and roll around in the grass for a while, seems pretty telling to me.
Idk basically I think Guts subconsciously wants to stay with Griffith and keep
Griffith’s attention on him despite his discomfort, I think attraction
and sexuality seeps into their exchange because, well, it’s there, and I
think rape comes in because that’s what Guts thinks of when he thinks of
men and sexuality (and thanks to the nightmare its on his and the audience’s minds),
and it’s brought up bc it’s a complication that keeps that attraction subconscious and sublimated.