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madchen
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i was thinking cry for judas by the mountain goats would also make just like a good general berserk amv

omg yeah what a perfect song choice. damn now i really want to see this, it’s like an overview of the golden age (and beyond tbh but we’re stuck with the golden age for amvs)

yea that was exactly what i was thinking too like. post eclipse guts is good but theres no good footage 

yeah it really sucks, i have so many good potential guts songs but they’d all require post eclipse footage. songs that just feel like golden age guts are hard to come by at least for me.

madchen
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i mean why not both but i was initially thinking griffith. itd be easier to do with just the ovas at least. i have to relisten now i guess!!!

pure griffith pov would probably be a lot easier now that i think about it, i feel like guts’ pov should incorporate dark post-eclipse fated-enemies stuff, which (imo) would be really fun with the upbeat tone of the song, but sadly, 2016/17 animation lol

nico-jero
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Yeah, the amv definitely would need post and pre eclipse footage but the different styles would be jarring. What are your thoughts on manga panels in amvs. My other song idea for Guts is Sound of Silence Distrubed cover. 🙂

hmm I think manga panels + animation could work, depending on how it’s done. i’d want to have it divided into sections if i was doing it myself, where you have animation with say one part of the music/story and manga panels during another distinct part of the music/story. but that’s just me, i’m sure there are plenty of ways to incorporate it and make it flow.

ooh the sound of silence + guts is an interesting combination. that cover especially has a good mix of contemplative but like, loud lol, it seems like it would work for guts’ moodiness.

nico-jero
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I always associate the Lana Cover of Once Upon A Dream with griffguts but I don’t know how to make amvs…��

if you have the software available you should try, it’s a lot of fun and the world needs more berserk amvs! it takes a bit of getting used to but depending on the program you use it can be fairly straightforward, and there are youtube tutorials and stuff! imo the hardest part is all the technical bs, dealing with frame rates and aspect ratios and file types etc, but it’s worth powering thru if it’s something that interests you.

though for once upon a dream idk if it would work because i feel like it’d need post eclipse and pre eclipse footage and combining 2016/7 berserk animation with ova or 90s anime animation would make it stick out like a sore thumb. tho on the other hand if the golden age is used flashback style the different character models/animation would be less jarring and might enhance the feeling of separation… idk it would be worth experimenting with and could be pretty awesome.

a-girl-named-chester
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Could it be him maybe accepting that for NGriff, his old dream is taking priority over his previous love for guts, which guts was eventually aware of?
Not necessarily buying into NGriff’s hype himself, but not wanting to overcomplicate Griffith to his friends? His friends who didn’t even know he knew Griffith?

Yeah I definitely don’t think he’d start getting into all the complicated stuff wrt that relationship with his friends, but the line “he hasn’t changed” is just guts’ thoughts, not something he said outloud, suggesting Guts believes it:

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and that’s a hell of a loaded statement for guts to be thinking to himself especially with the immediate visual reference to NeoGriffith’s look back at him as he says “nothing has changed.”

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It could be that he’s just referring purely to what his dream entails, ie a kingdom, but then again, even then, human Griffith only said he wanted a kingdom, he didn’t say anything about taking over the world or building an empire, which is what they’re talking about now.

prettykitten123
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@bthump right??? I have friends and a cousin who denies that there were any romantic feelings between them but I’ve noticed that most of the fans who deny it never provide evidence for their claims. I’m still waiting for my cousin to give me a reason(he’s the only one I actually expect would come up with some evidence but I have evidence of my own)

And another thing that gets me is that people know that Berserk was inspired by Devilman which was a shounen ai.

Yeah Devilman’s clear influence on Berserk and Guts and Griffith’s relationship trajectory is a pretty huge indicator lol.

hetero goggles tho man, they’re powerful. like Berserk is a story where one dude asks the other dude if he’s gay five minutes after they meet and that dude completely fails to answer, and people still manage to miss the subtext somehow.

@just-a-daft-punk not sure if I’m interpreting your comment correctly, do you mean guts and casca would’ve run off together earlier if it weren’t for casca’s feelings for griffith? because tbh i don’t see it myself, it took judeau practically shoving guts at her multiple times and then an attempted suicide and emotional breakdown for guts to make a move. and right before leaving he dismissed the idea of getting together with her out of hand because he wanted to prioritize finding a dream and becoming griffith’s friend.

like guts just didn’t really show any interest in her beyond leering at her in her dress once before his two chats with judeau imo.

prettykitten123
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@bthump how I feel whenever I meet a berserk fan who adamantly denies the obvious chemistry between Griffith and Guts.

lol it genuinely throws me off ngl. it’s weird how two people can read the same story and come away with vastly, vastly different conceptions of what it’s about. I get that there’s always variation between any two readings of a story, but Berserk has one of the widest gulfs between different types of fans I’ve ever seen.

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@bthump Right? Like that’s a literally batshit crazy thing to say to someone and Guts is just like “wow he really cares.” I was 100% sold on the two of them as a deal and on the series after that.

oops i almost missed this but lmao yeah. and like that was guts’ reaction to griffith fighting him when he tried to leave too. griffith’s not the only one with a ridic concept of friendship.

just-a-daft-punk
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What’s interesting to me is that all the members of the god hand probably have a wounded core which is protected by their armor/transformation into a god hand

totally. Same with Apostles from everything we’ve seen, and Guts too – like it’s particularly fitting that his Beast of Darkness, which essentially is self-protection born out of trauma and betrayal, both in childhood and then the Eclipse, p much lives in a magic suit of armour now.

prettykitten123
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I feel like the way he executed the heterosexual couplings in this manga is like the way Oscar Wilde did in his book Picture Of Dorian Gray. The straight couples have no substance whereas the undertones of homosexuality between two men had more depth and emotion.

With that being said I know there’s a whole debate on whether Griffith and Guts were homosexual or straight or this or that but to me honestly I don’t even think they knew about their sexuality.

one day i really should actually read podg. but honestly based on what i’ve heard and the sheer volume of subtext in berserk it seems like an apt comparison.

speaking for myself i headcanon both as gay and mostly in denial/ignorant of that fact. i mean guts i could see as bi as well pretty easily, like either works for me, but griffith is Gay imo.

when it comes to being more “”objectively”” analytical I can acknowledge that it’s all subtext and therefore their sexualities can’t technically be asserted as fact either way, but since i really dislike the assumption of straight as default i happily just take it as read that they’re fully in love and attracted to each other. even if it is just subtext, I consider it to be the like… occam’s razor of readings. it’s the simplest explanation for a lot of the content of the manga so why not roll with it, yk?

therainykitty
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@bthump​ Oh I agree, I think Guts’ dreams on Griffith after the eclipse would be a mix of longing,sorrow,mourning,regret, happiness,joy and dreaming of the good times as well as things he would have liked happen, anything romantic or otherwise.But I like to think Guts never gets a damn moment of rest without his dreams always going back to Griffith one way or the other.

lol poor guts, fighting ghosts all night, having confusing + painful dreams about griffith all morning and walking all afternoon, for months.

i’m fully on board with this concept.

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Well, as you noted in a previous post and as Puck would say “it’s more complex” which is why is so damn interesting.

so I just assumed without double checking that you were commenting on
that last ask, not my jokey post about Guts’ Griffith dreams lol, and I just noticed that i missed the context.

to me gay subtext and relationships and feelings are synonymous with complex and interesting and I don’t think there’s anything reductive about saying Guts’ feelings for Griffith (and vice versa) are gay af and probably quite sexual.

i can think of quite a few dream scenarios that are both gay and extremely complex and interesting and wholly reflective of the complicated emotions Guts feels tbqh. and, not to assume that you were implying this but it’s always worth saying, if anything, I’d say stripping away or ignoring the romantic and sexual subtext reduces the complexity of their relationship.

scenesthatmakeugowow
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Well, as you noted in a previous post and as Puck would say “it’s more complex” which is why is so damn interesting.

totally! I mean the hill of swords reunion shortly after is such a powerful and painful mix of rage and longing and regret and loneliness etc for guts. moments like the one anon pointed out are gr8 preludes to that.

like this is one of my favourite exchanges:

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like fucking, imagine being guts, obsessed with getting griffith’s attention since he was like 15, still obsessed after everything, and hearing that now. and right before griffith declares he feels nothing and “deserts” him.

his feelings are so complex and interesting to me.

seisans
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my feelings on his art is basically that it progressively got worse, so the mf arc is like. still pretty ok near the beginning and then slowly gets worse. griffith is mostly still very pretty, but i feel like he still cannot compare to ga griffith. farnese is cute, no one looks like a wooden doll. wbu?

hmm yeah i kind of agree. I have mixed feelings on it because I think it’s like, genuinely pretty impressive and totally gorgeous at times, but it feels a little too polished almost, and not as visceral/raw as it could during the golden age

but then again i’m more emotionally attached to the golden age so it’s not like i’m objective, and despite that a few of my favourite panels are from the millenium falcon arc, so idk really

seisans
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ia yeah like he overheard it, idek if he made the connection but if he did then the only powerlessness he could have felt imo is the inability to stop guts from leaving again. obviously not in a controlling way, but in like a sad, gay way

yeah like, based on when we see his eyes open he may have overheard casca mention promrose but we don’t know for sure, we know he overheard her say ‘if you’re griffith’s friend and equal‘ so theoretically he could’ve made the connection, but regardless it doesn’t really matter from a narrative perspective because there’s no indication that griffith knows what they’re talking about

like from a character perspective i think it can work – i remember you had a good explanation actually for what he’d be thinking, how it would just remind him of how fucked up his body is now, etc. but the narrative just completely ignoring the possibility of griffith putting two and two together works so much better for my point lol

and thinking about them objectively when all you wanna do is cry 

mteeeeeee

seisans
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yeah though he’s clearly way more emotional than neo griff? neo griff is very poker face while femto is over there handing out glares and saying petty hurtful shit as often as possible

you’re right. tbh it could make sense with the fact that femto is just plain made out of negative emotion and so lets his asshole flag fly, while neogriffith being corporeal probably doubled down on his emotional repression

but the fact that neogriffith figured he had to test his capacity for emotion just seems weird with that explanation since yeah he obviously had the capacity for it as femto. i guess ‘griffith lives in denial and this is true of every incarnation’ could kinda work as an explanation for that inconsistency tho.

seisans
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to be fair femto vs neo griff is still unclear

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but you’d think femto would be even less capable of emotion than neogriff since he got the whole frozen blood crystalization of your last tear shed thing, while neogriff had to test himself now that he’s in a flesh and blood body, and then failed the test

but yeah it is still like ambiguous and up in the air so i guess we can’t do more than throw educated guesses at the wall lol

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People conveniently forget about that moment too. It’s propaganda I say xD 

yeah it gets ignored way too often when it’s like the high point of the post-sacrifice eclipse stuff.