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seisans
replied to your post “last night i was finally making headway in this post about why guts…”

do it in notepad first and save the file immediately and keep saving it as you’re typing

i‘ve been writing long posts in google docs bc it conveniently saves automatically but then it’s also a pain in the ass bc i have to add all the pictures afterwards instead of as I go lol

and this post has so many illustrative panels because like, so much of my point is stated outright in the manga

wingsfreedom
replied to your post “last night i was finally making headway in this post about why guts…”

same, that’s why I make copies whenever I progress in a text post

yeah i usually at least save more often but i’m also absent minded so lol

kissing-monsters
replied to your post “what would you think if berserk ended like devilman did ?”

That’s like a highly ideal ending honestly, the Griffith kills Guts and then it ends on him having a Real Emotion and it’s all terrible

yeah i feel like it’d be the perfect blend of tragic yet satisfying for me. even moreso if Guts does that thing he does where he lets himself be stabbed because he’s full of guilt and mixed feelings. like say, if he finds out ngriff hasn’t completely lost his human emotions beforehand and actually failed his emotion test on the hill of swords…

yesgabsstuff
replied to your post “Do you think griffith liked his body?”

My thoughts very much line up with yours. I tend to think being raised in an environment that was probably physically dangerous as well as living through periods of involuntary starvation probably cultivated his detachment. Also I’m not sure he thought of himself as attractive? Like he might see his looks as a vulnerability since the folks that have given him attention for it have hurt him.

yeah ia with this.

i’m sure he knows he’s attractive and probably cultivates it since yk he’s trying to marry a princess, but i don’t think it’s something he’d like, be proud of or that would feed his ego or anything. i think he’d deliberately try to see it in a utilitarian way rather than having any feelings about his looks, positive or negative, bc the less rational feelings he does have would probably be negative – beauty is an asset to achieving his dream (not just in marrying charlotte but also looking the part of the hero of midland and gaining general acceptance), but it’s also something he associates with being preyed on by gennon, so he focuses on the first part.

madchen
replied to your post “Does griffith have albinism?I know that his eyes sometimes look…”

ive been trying to rationalize this in my mind for a while like okay for example my hair looks very blonde but my eyebrows and lashes are dark blonde and therefore look almost black THEREFORE griffiths fave situation might be realistic bc he is the only physical weirdo in berserk but then i remembered schierke has green hair i hate anime.

yeah while replying i was also like, is it realistic for a dude with platinum blond hair to not have super blond eyelashes/brows? but like, w/e it looks good and yeah lol it still makes more sense than schierke’s design.

madchen
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“i miss when griffith had sharp features and looked more masculine now…”

i think hes meant to look more feminine/pretty/awe inspiring now but you can just say miura exaggerates these features a lot now. like look at casca?

yeah it’s def true that everyone looks like… softer in a way i really dislike. a bunch of people have been pointing it out and it’s super true. tho tbf i think griffith has actually suffered from this the least, he looks the same amount of feminine to me lol. tbh my personal biggest problem with the fantasia art wrt griffith is that he looks half assed and generic now, like a collection of his “pretty” features thown together rather than yk, an interesting drawing of a person

but this is true of everyone, it’s like the backgrounds keep getting more and more detailed while the faces/expressions get more generic. or like… the features are detailed, like look at how he draws eyes in closeups, they just don’t come together in an interesting way anymore

yesgabsstuff
replied to your post “hohoho so i did what i said i was going to do, re-read most of the…”

This feels very fitting in the sense that all of Casca, Guts, and Griffith’s struggles for their own autonomy are rendered useless by people that are willing to use their lives/bodies as pawns. That’s just my thought.

oh yeah i didn’t really think of it that way, but good point.

kinda ties into how fate works almost lol. i mean in a way isn’t the idea of evil the ultimate paternalistic figure, ultimately orchestrating guts, casca’s and griffith’s encounters with the people who use them?

and this theory i threw out is kind of based on how causality determines when the behelit opens, but theoretically people can use that for their own ends, so it’s like an intersection of both fate and people using others. tho i didn’t rly say anything about that there i guess.

madchen
replied to your post “gutsbaratiddies
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oh i like this take i briefly considered something in this direction but i didnt miura would have a sophisticated enough perspective to want to say that? idk. it was going thru my brains built in gender theories filter at the time so it seems more reasonable put this way ig

yeah this seems a little beyond miura ngl but idk, i’ll grasp at any and every straw for the sake of hope lol, and tbf we were reminded that she’s afraid of guts by danann just a few chapters ago so it’s not like miura has completely forgotten

GOD casca is obviously your edgy twist on miki except casca is “your type” can we just have them move the fuck on already 

devilman lady ending when

madchen
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replied to your post “I don’t think that was the real guts…”

oh im just banking on the ominous ruse awakening i think were in for no matter the context. but the romanticization was just weirdddd no matter what like i know its been a while but casca never really felt that way about guts pre eclipse either like. what.

to me it felt like either fanservice for the sole sake of subverting expectations, or miura buying into everything g*tsca shippers think without re-reading his own story first

and i’m definitely fearing it’s the latter what with the indication that she’s been wanting to see(/meet whatever the line is) guts this whole time while stuck in a dream, the teary look when his name is mentioned, the expectation of romance and casca immediately going along with it, etc.

like who is this and what have you done with casca

sure miura feminized her a lot when she started crushing on guts in the golden age but it was never this bad, and there has never been a true love vibe between them

so like yeah even if there is a twist it’s hard to explain away the characterization here

seisans
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no yeah i was talking about just casca, i know in my heart guts cannot and will not move on. at least any time soon. but i can’t seem to predict which way casca’s arc will go because miura writes women so incomprehensibly

oh yeah i see what you mean. and yeaaaaah casca is seriously an enormous blank spot because who knows wtf miura is going to do with her, i can really only begin to theorize about how she’s going to support guts’ story lol. tho imagine if she actually got her own motivations and narrative.

gutsbaratiddies
replied to your post “madchen
replied to your post “I don’t think that was the real guts…”

i agree that the moment she wakes up is rushed, things are too cordial and NICE. Tbh I almost expected her to wake up screaming. but the last few panels of the update suggest some dark shit is coming?? So maybe something is UP

@seisans said:
yeah i thought he was like fake, maybe danann knows more than she lets on and is trying to get casca to realise some things? idk

here’s hoping. i mean when you put it that way with danann pushing the romance but it turns out this is just like, magical therapy part 2, maybe the point is that g*tsca is a terrible idea and casca has to realize that lol

seisans
replied to your post “seisans
replied to your post “cut for not actually spoilers but the…”

yeah, it’s just like. regressed casca even had that moment when she was trying to touch neo griff but couldn’t, plus like the stupid fetus, and idk how the gremlin man (miura) thinks so i’m assuming the worst. but yeah you’re probably right

there is a shit ton of stuff that can and should be taken into account tbh, and that post was rly just a v distant overview. i think… idk there’s probably enough evidence to make a case for either scenario happening – guts moving on vs guts failing to move on. and like the fetus eg could figure into either of those scenarios, by maybe being a source of conflict between casca and guts, or maybe uniting them.

i think there’s also enough evidence to argue that guts failing to move on isn’t necessarily a negative/tragic thing either, tho i kind of framed it as one. like there’s a scenario where guts trying to “let go of his obsession” is essentially guts kidding himself and just burying and refusing to acknowledge his mixed feelings instead of confronting them, using casca as an escape

that’s my #1 hope rly.

but yeah at the end of the day this all kind of rests on the premise that when berserk is over it will overall be a good solid comprehensive story lol, and that’s based on what I’m picking up on as important themes, which is kind of itself a distant hope.

dendromancer
replied to your post “i mean i guess it’s always been the same question: is this the prelude…”

i think if the latter is the case then perhaps there will be a more light-hearted ending but… my preferences aside, from BS arc this manga’s theme is the quest for revenge, fighting against all odds etc. so i think that if this scenario occured then the manga will have kind of deviated..? not that it couldn’t be (objectively) a development, but still the ending would be all over the place instead of tackling the core elements, ie their relationship

yeah I totally agree. While I think you could argue that Guts forming strong relationships as a way of moving on from traumatic shit is in keeping with earlier themes, applying that to moving on from Griffith completely ignores the complexities of Guts and Griffith’s relationship, which is straight up what Berserk is about. Like yeah I’m super biased but I still think it would objectively be more narratively fulfilling to see their mutual obsession take centre stage again – it’s the difference between their intense relationship getting a proper climax and emotional catharsis versus being reduced to basically a bad break up that one dude couldn’t move on from.

It’s also a deviation in another way that I was considering tacking onto that post but didn’t, but now I want to talk about it.

But like imo if it is the case that Berserk is about Guts overcoming his obsession and moving on, then functionally Berserk is basically two different kinds of stories.

Everything from chapter one to chapter 129 is the story of a kind of fucked up dude with a lot of issues muddling his way through a very dark grey narrative and trying to do his best.

Everything from chapter 130 on is the story of a dude consistently Making The Right Choice.

Like, I kind of feel that those two stories are incompatible. In a narrative about a dude struggling with himself and trying and usually failing to make the right choices in a complex world where right and wrong barely even exist, which tbh is My Berserk, then it simply doesn’t work for the main character to then make the correct choice, ie focusing on Casca, and stick to it for two hundred and twenty chapters plus afterwards. If he eventually does make a genuinely good and correct and narratively rewarded choice, that should only happen at the end and it should be cathartic.

There are stories about protagonists doing the right thing the whole time even though it’s a struggle at times, and those can be fine stories, but it’s a giant downgrade from a story about a dude making a bunch of mistakes in a morally grey world, and an absolutely enormous tonal and thematic shift. It just doesn’t work as a complete story to me if that’s the case.

seisans
replied to your post “cut for not actually spoilers but the fact that i still haven’t shut…”

i haven’t looked at the new chapter, just the pics y’all posted & linked to, but with the feathers and casca wanting to see someone and “your wish may not be her wish” like i could see her using the behelit and joining neo-griff ….. but ………….. idk, has she remembered the eclipse yet? if not she’s bound to and that’s not gonna be pretty. also idk what the point of her joining griffith would be wrt guts ……
like i hate the idea of his own desire
to see griffith getting mixed with his “feelings” for casca you know
what i mean?

anyway if i remember
correctly i think your “casca uses the behelit” theory involved her
having her own revenge journey or something like that but yeah what if
this instead. i’m thinking no thank you mr miura

haha i would straight up murder miura if casca joined neogriffith. my, like, unlikely ideal is the three of them with their own individual power ups (incarnated god, apostle mb along the lines of ganeshka wrt power, berserk armour) all kind of opposing each other to some degree. eg ngriff wants his empire and also wants guts in some capacity that he doesn’t understand so maybe tries to kill him, casca wants to kill ngriff but guts wants to be the one to kill ngriff but also he doesn’t want to kill ngriff, etc

I think the feathers are probably more a reminder of her past as a Hawk than necessarily to do with NGriff. That’s what I was thinking anyway, but like, with the addition that that past is traumatic and they’re a reminder of Griffith who is the source of her trauma and therefore it’s ~ominous~

nico-jero
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replied to your post “355 spoilers[[MO ok i just saw a…”

The backgrounds and details are very nice but the characters seems too cutesy for my personal taste. Even the monsters in Casca’s dream world lacked a visceral feeling besides being dick monsters. I am glad we didn’t see any rape but at the same time I think the drawings could of been rougher. I also wasn’t a fan of Casca’s magical girl dress. But maybe the translation will help… *Goes back to read Golden Age Arc*

@laraskadi said:
indeeeeeeeeeeeeeed I
feel this so much! I NEED her to look like Casca and act like Casca,
otherwise it just looks like a random person…? And in that dress no
less… Put her in some armor with a normal face and I’ll cry my eyes out

(putting this in one post bc it’s all about art)

Yeah mte. Like I won’t deny that Miura’s always drawn women with exaggerated eyes and tiny mouths, but she seemed so much more expressive before and idk, the exaggerated faces seemed less jarring with the flatter/cartoonier style of the golden age, as opposed to the current mix of hugely exaggerated features and realistic details? Plus the shape of her eyes makes a difference, she’s so feminized now :/ the dress is just the cherry on top of that really unpleasant sundae tbh.

And more for the first reply:

Yeah the art is a lot like, heavier and darker, thicker lines (more lines holy fuck) but it lacks the fluid visceralness we saw during, eg, the actual eclipse, in moments like this:

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and like the sheer business of the art now means we don’t get evocative and terrifying contrasts like this:

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And yeah the style in general seems less suited to monsters now. compare above to

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like man I want to see the monsters, not just suggestions of them.

sareth-dorn
replied to your post “more spoilers ofc [[MOR] yesgabsstuff
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That necklace is the talisman she received from Flora. http://mangaseeonline.us/read-online/Berserk-chapter-236-index-2-page-6.html

oh lol i had no memory of this, ty!

all righty then the double helix isn’t so much suggestive of evil/darkness as spiritual stuff/od stuff in general i guess. which does fit better overall.

(has she been wearing it in plain sight the whole time and i just never noticed? or has it been largely under her travel dress at least lol?)

more spoilers ofc

yesgabsstuff
replied to your post “ch 355, more random musing[[MOR] i s2g it’s like this chapter was…”

The. Fucking. Feathers.

thank you so it’s not just me thinking like

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this is kinda suspect

also the helix in the necklace a la brand of sacrifice that i just noticed?

like i’m not saying danann dressed her in this to be secretly evil, but i’m thinking it’s subtle visual hinting re: the source of her trauma, hawks/sacrifice/griffith, and purposefully suggestive as a little added layer of ominousness

i mean i’d take it as coincidence considering it’s mostly petals in the dress, but those hairpieces, man

nico-jero
replied to your post “355 spoilers[[MOR] ok i just saw a pic of sane again casca that…”

I miss the old art. I can’t connect to this Casca. :’(

yeah same. idk i can’t judge the art on a technical level or anything, idk what’s good, but i do know that when it comes to personal preference I am really not a fan of the fantasia art. like to the point where if it had been the look the whole time I might never have gotten into Berserk at all lol.

cut for not actually spoilers but the fact that i still haven’t shut up about this idea is kind of itself a spoiler i guess

4kduranzo
replied to your post “355 spoilers fair warning this is v rambly and stream of…”

she’s branded tho how can she use the behelit?

there’s nothing indicating a living sacrifice can’t use the behelit. we’re meant to believe that guts may be able to use it after all – flora wonders if it’s his or if he’s carrying it for someone – and he’s branded too.

the godhand do say that someone who’s already been sacrificed can’t be sacrificed again, which might be what confuses people (i’ve had other people bring this point up too other times i’ve mentioned my behelit theory).