i can’t find the interview anymore but i did find this reddit post where someone made a summary of some of miura’s interviews and they mention that “Kentaro has stated that he has something in plan for the Moonlight Boy that will make the final confrontation between Guts and Griffith more exciting” -> reddit(.)com/r/Berserk/comments/9ds7vz/the_next_big_step_for_berserk_kentaro_miura/. if i find the interview again i’ll send you the link. anyways fuck the mb and eveything he represents

Ty for the link! I’ve read everything they’ve referenced, so hm, idk. “More exciting” lol my dude if you don’t have faith in your ability to make a climactic confrontation between two dudes that has 300 chapters of intense emotional build up exciting without adding some magic baby bullshit, why are you even writing this story?

xiyyh replied to your post  

“i remember reading an interview where miura said the moonlight boy is…”

i don’t even have words but i’m going to be living in fear until this plays out now                    

same lol

i
mean tbf i’ve always had a fear that post-eclipse berserk is
going to ultimately end up completely sucking depending on where miura
goes from here, this just adds a little bit of weight to it.

But idk this is all so vague it could mean just about anything. MB could still even be a red herring, just one that yk, has an impact.

madchen
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ugh combine them into griffith being a brat at work bc he had some spat w guts that morning and guts coming in at lunch or the end of the day to surprise him

nice, a+ would read

madchen
replied to your post “asia do u have… griffguts domestic married headcanons?”

whenever they have a fight they forgive each other like immediately. guts will be aggressively chopping vegetables for dinner and griffith will come up behind him and wrap his arms around his waist and press his face into his back
love the idea of
griffiths coworkers noticing he quietly got married (ring, he’s not
subtle lol) and wondering what his wife is like and then they meet guts.
griffiths the kinda guy who keeps a framed photo of him and guts on his
immaculate desk

lol yes they’d never be able to stay mad at each other. maybe they could sulk for a while if they’re apart, during a work day or like if Guts stomps out of the house to walk around the block and brood, but as soon as they see each other again all is forgiven

and yes to the rest. also griffith’s coworkers meeting guts for the first time would make a great outsider pov fic ngl.

@wingsfreedom

not replying to the post bc in general i don’t like reblogging stuff just to disagree with op, but yeah that detail about Casca being Miura’s ideal woman skeeves me tf out. From the fact that I hate that a dude can get away with making his personal fantasy fodder a love interest in a serious story and no one considers that cheap or yk lacking in artistic merit while if a woman does the same her work gets automatically dismissed as chick lit/trashy romance, to the fact that Casca is sexually assaulted so often in disgustingly eroticized ways, to the objectifying descriptions emphasized there, it’s gross as hell imo.

madchen
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replied to your post “do you have any horror-ish…”

it’s hard to think of horror movie aus where there’s a good partnership which is why the conjuring is fun. if you’re devout enough i think someone could have fun with like an IT au. given how full of childhood trauma and repression berserk actually is.

oh man IT would work way too well. but yeah horror movies w/ fun partnerships aren’t common, i’ll keep the conjuring in mind next time i’m feeling like a horror movie tbh, it looks p fun.

hellraiser might be a good fit, tho honestly i’ve never actually seen it lol, i just know the aesthetic suits the godhand and you open portals to other dimensions through puzzle boxes and turn into bdsmy demons or smthn. but yeah i can’t think of any with good character dynamics for griffguts, just like aesthetics and tones to steal lol.

madchen
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no omg i agree like he is never full drama queen but i feel like the stress has to come out in some ways lmao… he never throws a fit he’s just like hand twitching at his side while chews out the florist for getting the arrangement wrong and then maybe runs to his car afterwards and silent cries.

a+ content tbh, i love this. also i imagine these are the situations when modern au griffith’s like, death stare comes out lol

madchen

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“Who’s the bigger drama queen, Guts or Griffith?”

true… i feel like modern au griffith would be more of a drama queen or like, channel it through. healthier? outlets like social media. or being a groomzilla.

yeah i think depending on the au i could see a way more emotionally open griffith. like one thing about his general… mr calm and composed attitude to everything is that it’s not intrinsic and it doesn’t necessarily come naturally to him, he’s just forced himself to be very self-controlled throughout his life.

tbh I don’t think I should’ve said i can’t imagine griffith completely losing self-control, because i can imagine it under some circumstances, and i mean we’ve seen him attempt suicide (and he’s not in full control over himself when he’s self harming, eg, like he didn’t even seem aware he was doing it in Casca’s flashback, etc).

But yk to me drama queen suggests like, ott and melodramatic/overexaggerated emotional responses. imo Griffith’s most extreme emotional responses are pretty justified as reactions to extreme circumstances. Even Guts leaving was imo demonstrated to be genuinely significant to him, so his reaction didn’t feel overly extreme to me, and because we got his internal monologue we saw how much of his feelings he still kept hidden.

So it’s less that I can’t imagine him losing self control, and more that I can’t imagine him throwing a hissy fit, or screaming at someone in outrage, and generally blowing things out of proportion. that kind of thing.

But yeah like modern au Griffith, in different circumstances without a dream his life revolves around that forces him into a perfect self-controlled leader image, I could see him, yk, expressing his feelings before they started seeping out in self-destructive ways like unconscious self harm. Engaging in arguments, crying a bit more easily, etc. idk if I could really imagine him as an actual drama queen even then, but he could definitely be less cool and calm and composed in general.

But also like… bear in mind that this is me in unfun, contemplating the nuances of Griffith’s characterization mode. I want to respond to this with like a fun modern au groomzilla griffith scenario, I’m just bad at having fun and thinking of stuff like that, and your response made me ponder more about how canon Griffith expresses emotions lol.

bedifear
replied to your post “top 10 things you want to see happen in the manga?”

Griffith and Guts having their dramatic angsty homoerotic battle that culminates in mutual defeat and becoming one in hell while Casca continues driving the story is the Absolute Best Ending I can think of thank you op

glad you agree! also i just love the image of casca like, walking away at the end of it all and being able to start over in any capacity, whether it’s as a human or a monster or whatever. bonus if she’s got farnese with her.

sobadpink

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“seisans
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Honestly I think Casca is going to be the only one of the three who will ultimately survive in the end. Griffith’s pure and wonderful kingdom is just /too good/ to last, and I think it will be Guts (our apparent “hero”) who will actually destroy that – and make the world a worse place for it, all in the name of revenge, which is always seen as cool and good in most other He-Man Manly fiction. In a way, it’ll be like both Guts and Griffith are destined to fail through “winning” what they’ve got
and I’ve seen too many
people say they want to see Guts and Casca kill Griffith and go off to
live happily ever after.. LOL. as if Guts’ entire history of not knowing
anything but fighting and killing is suddenly going to be “cured.”  The
guy is the literal embodiment of live-by-sword, die-by-sword, and he
will never stop. Griffith’s death will be tragic not so much for losing
him, but the world he has created for others.  Casca deserves to be
without their drama anyway lol

…totally agree that
the rape was cheap and a crappy stark way to make readers hate Griffith.
Like I understand why it’s there, but it was a very poor choice. I
preferred the ambiguity of grey morality with the entire sacrifice on
its own.  A more direct and personal “fuck you Guts” via Griffith
without raping Casca could’ve easily been switched with any number of
non-sexual acts

honestly this ending would be fantastic imo. i mean i fell in love with berserk when it was a tragedy about 2 dudes whose understandable and empathetic yet still fatal flaws ruined everything, and i want it to return to a tragedy about 2 dudes who continue to ruin everything bc they can’t overcome those flaws.

painting the destruction of falconia as a bad outcome because guts failed to find a better way to deal with his issues than sword swinging would work v well for me.

if miura needs a hopeful note he can have it with the children and maybe some of the other side characters, but i want guts and griffith to destroy themselves and each other again so bad and for that to be shown as a another tragedy.

thekeenbouquetcrown
replied to your post “I must say that 70% of the fandom of Nana and Beserk in terms of…”

Have not you read Nana manga? of what you miss my friend, I must say that I agree with the anon … it is one of the best drama Josei and especially the relationship between both Nana is fascinating and I think that in the end (if it comes back from the Hiatus) both stay together because they are soulmates after all and it is obvious that the story is exactly that, hell I would like many yuri couples to have that detail in their narrative

ty for the rec

i don’t usually get into slice of life stuff which is why i never checked it out after seeing the movie, but i do love strong intense relationships filled with gay subtext, and good character writing in general which it sounds like this is, so i’ll keep it in mind

seisans
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replied to your post “sobadpink
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i think it was probably meant as a shock value thing more than anything, like yes the idea was to feel the anger and betrayal guts was feeling, but imo it wasn’t meant to make us hate griffith the character as a whole from that point onward. because the way miura presents his story after the eclipse is very generous
like it was a shoking turning point that
was supposed to 1) give guts revenge motivation but also 2) really
drive home the ~morally ambiguous~ thing he’s trying to go with, which
might have been the worst fail ever because not only is rape generally
tied to pure evil villainy but also miura /kinda/ made that connection
too. i mean he was actually trying to make that “there’s evil in the
world bc everyone has a dark core” point

and also maybe
something about ultimate freedom (which is why it’s the apostles that
rape like almost every time) but he just failed so hard on that front bc
everyone saw the eclipse rape scene and was like, oh ok so we’re
supposed to hate griffith then. and instead of making their view of the
story more ambiguous and open, it made it completely black and white.
the literal opposite of what miura was imo going for

one thing that i think
the eclipse rape does do is drive home the hatred griffith felt for
guts when he was at his lowest, because those are the feelings that come
to surface when he’s stripped down to only his “evil core.” however the
counter-argument there is that it absolutely didn’t have to be rape,
like you mentioned in another post. it could have been torture or
whatever else. and i’m so pissed off that he went with rape in the end
bc it just cheapened everything

Hm yeah it’s meant to illustrate Femto as an entity made out of evil and Griffith’s inner darkness, make us hate him specifically and empathize with Guts’ desire for revenge. I def agree that it’s not meant to make us retroactively hate Griffith, it’s pretty clear that human Griffith is still meant to be very sympathetic and not Femto-lite or anything like that lmao, I mean look at how Guts remembers him.

NeoGriffith, idfk. It seems clear that we’re not meant to hate him, considering how he’s framed as the hero of his own story with his own loathsome antagonists and a cause we’re meant to generally consider good, and allies we’re meant to like, etc. But we’re probably still supposed to be wary of him, and uncertain about him? His whole thing is ambiguity. So idk, maybe Miura intended for it to be obvious that NGriff isn’t the exact same as Femto just like regular Griffith isn’t, so distancing the Eclipse rape from his narrative doesn’t feel awkward as fuck to him lol.

And yeah in addition to illustrating his evil it does illustrate his negative feelings towards Guts, also necessary, but yeah, choosing rape as that illustration was bad, and the particular way Miura went about it was even worse.

so ……… berserk is red pill vs blue pill 

not sure if this is a matrix ref or a reddit ref lol. both kinda make sense…

i’m hoping miura
doesn’t rush this. bc it’s still not entirely clear what he’s really
going for, and i’d kind of like it to be, by the end 

depends, if it’s gonna suck i just want the band aid ripped off, but if he’s going to surprise me and it’s gonna be good i want to savour it. and also yeah, understanding it would be nice too lmao, but I feel like that’ll be more clear after whatever happens w/ casca happens. that’s the make or break for me.

honestly the concept
of falconia is so sexy, starting with the ripped statues outside and
ending with its literally lusted after angelic beautiful leader like
come on. props to him, griffith haters need to give credit where credit
is due 

when one of your literal superpowers is magic sex appeal you don’t have to go the extra mile, but he did. what an icon

adelth
replied to your post “You mentioned something before about Muria’s “shit writing sometimes”…”

Hi, I ended up here because you linked the post recently. So, about Charlotte. It’s not a thing I like or totally understand the cultural reasons for, but you see a lot of women/bottoms saying “no/don’t” in Japanese porn that’s framed as consensual. I gather it’s a “good girls always say no” thing? It’s still really uncomfortable and problematic, but the scene with Charlotte reads like it’s complying to an established (although ugly and misogynist) standard to me.
I agree about all the ways the trio’s
characters were gutted by the eclipse though. I don’t even really
disagree about Charlotte, I just think Miura was riding the wheel, not
inventing it.

Yeah I have like, a vague awareness of that as a cliche in Japanese porn/erotica, tho it crops up in more than its fair share of english media too, and I feel like that no means yes trope is an unfortunately p universal form of misogyny/rape culture. And yeah def agree that it’s what’s informing that scene.


Yeah, the backstories
were what made me hopeful that there was a more cohesive idea being
explored. Now I mostly hope he just leaves it alone and doesn’t go
there.

The book was was Blade of Tyshalle by Matthew Stover. It’s:
-the second book in a series
-a masterful culmination of themes explored in the first book
-maybe my favorite book ever?
-choke-full of things that should not work but do
-seriously dark and violent, but worth reading if you can stomach it

I looked it up and ngl the premise of that series sounds pretty intriguing. idk if I’ll check it out but it’s going on a list of books to maybe look into next time I’m bored, so ty.

And yeah ikwym, I feel like in a different story the Golden Age narrative culminating in Griffith transforming into a version of himself that embodies his inner darkness and that being shown through rape could’ve worked like, thematically. It just like, would’ve had to be different in almost every way lol. like about Casca’s trauma rather than Guts’, and half the narrative could not centre NGriff as a protagonist afterwards, and Casca should be a full character and have at least as much narrative significance as Guts, and the depiction would actually have to be tasteful and centred in Casca’s pov since the theme in question is trauma and the rapists throughout the Golden Age are all one dimensional caricatures – like they’re not the focus, the victims are.

But idk this is the mess we got, and I’m with you, at this point I’m just hoping Miura doesn’t make it worse.

adelth
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Well, not like I can argue that sexual violence is handled well in Berserk. Tangential, but I once read a book where shit was a motif. Like, literally shit. And that sounds super gross but the author knew what he was doing and it served a very intentional literary purpose. I would have (quietly) been okay if Miura was doing something similar, but it really does seem like he just breaks out the rape card whenever he needs to up the stakes.

imo the really annoying thing about rape in berserk is that sometimes it actually is well done but most of the time it’s… just not lol. Like I think Guts and Griffith and Casca’s (with a few caveats) backstories all work really well, depicted in varying degrees of graphic but for the most part effectively so, they inform the characters and their current values and motivations, and thematically their backstories potentially inform like, the entire story.

Which imo just makes it worse that so much of the rape we see in Berserk is so badly done and gratuitous. Like as a theme I think it could’ve been strong and effective, and like, sometimes it is, but overall there’s way more bad than good. So yeah I p much completely agree with you.

and lol I’m kinda curious now, what book was that?

adelth
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replied to your post “When do you think berserk will end?…”

I guess I’ve always assumed the Eclipse rape was there to give us a reason to hate Griffith. Like, in another setting committing murder would be “crossing the line” into villainy. In a story where all the dewy-eyed still-innocent major characters are also hired killers, escalation is bound to get awkward. Given how sympathetic Griffith’s storyline otherwise is, it feels like a effort to say “no really, this is supposed to be morally complicated, stop rooting for him.”

Yeah I don’t think you’re wrong about that. Though more than anything I think it’s meant to give Guts specifically a reason to hate him lol, because the way Miura wrote the sacrifice and Guts’ reaction to it

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sacrificing him wasn’t nearly enough.

I mean personally I think the sacrifice could’ve still worked fine on its own if Guts had actually like, demonstrated some extreme feelings of betrayal, which I feel like he should’ve, because the sacrifice is meant to be an echo of his childhood trauma of being sold imo, and I feel like Miura kind of dropped that in favour of the more immediate shock value.

Like it wouldn’t’ve been enough to get me to hate him, but I’m kind of an exception lol, I feel like Guts expressing heartbreak and betrayal that echoes like, the scene where Gambino told him he sold him to Donovan, probably would’ve worked okay for most fans to make them at least very angry at Griffith/Femto.

Buuuuut you’re right that like, he is really sympathetic otherwise and Guts wanting to chase him down and kill him while he’s orchestrating world peace and ruling a utopia might make Guts seem less sympathetic without that visceral show of evil during the Eclipse to “justify” it. But then the Eclipse rape goes so far in the other direction that it completely fucks up the balance too. So idk.

I guess if I was writing it and I felt like the Eclipse needed something extra to prove that Femto is evil, which is fair since he’s supposed to be Griffith’s inner darkness with an additional boost of humanity’s evil in general, and you probably do want to demonstrate some of that, I’d opt for like, torture + maybe some magical mind torture or something if Casca needs to be driven insane, because that’s the kind of ott fantasy evil that none of the Berserk readership will have personally experienced. Rape as a gratuitous demonstration of evil has a whoooole lot of baggage that makes writing that character as a morally ambiguous antagonist later on extremely terrible imo.

Like idk I feel like rape as an establishing villain moment + future moral ambiguity is just wholly incompatible. And this isn’t even getting into the actual depiction of the rape scene which I consider to be just about as bad and offensive as possible.

tl;dr basically ia, I think the purpose was to immediately show how evil Femto is and make the readers and Guts hate him, and I mean it worked I guess lol, but I still think it was a bad decision and Miura should’ve done something else.

datonecutekid
replied to your post “Consider: vs It’s like the Conviction arc takes these super cynical…”

I think the point of gut’s changing his ideals and stating them against Mozgus is to show that he is on the path of becoming a less damaged human being. Even comparing his goals in the conviction arc to the blackswordsman arc, he started changing especially when he realized he wanted to regain casca as opposed to him wanting to hunt down neo griffith. I don’t think it’s inconsistent writing on mirua’s behalf but i think its supposed to show the beginning of gut’s growth.

Sorry, I think I wasn’t super clear because that post was kind of rambly and off-the-cuff lol, but my point is actually that it isn’t a change for Guts at all, it’s the exact same attitude – it’s just the narrative framing of that attitude has changed.

Guts saying the dude and his daughter were too weak to survive so they don’t matter is no different than Guts saying that the ten thousand refugees about to die deserve it because they’d rather bow down to a god than fight to survive or w/e

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It’s just that now that’s shown to be badass rather than a fairly pathetic denial of guilt.

bedifear
replied to your post “Have you checked out G/oblin S/layer? I’ve seen it in the berserk tag…”

Female characters being infantilised (in terms of That Art Style) and sexualised simultaneously is literally so disturbing and I acc went ahead and read the first chapter of this bc I kept seeing posts that claimed that “you shouldn’t hate it if you haven’t read it :(” (even though that’s false too lmao you should be able to tell it’s Bad regardless) and it’s Bad ��
Berserk is problematic too but this feels worse
Also just a personal
take but the protagonist’s armour is too generic to be cool so…there
really aren’t any redeeming qualities huh

yeah ikwym. Like if people get something out of it beyond male power fantasy then w/e I’m not judging people who like it, but it really doesn’t seem to have anything to offer me. Berserk is extremely bad in some ways, but it’s also extremely good in some ways that rly appeal to me. If the same is tru for some fans of GS then good for them, but as for myself, meh. Also agreed wrt the armour lol. And yeah like I am viscerally pretty disturbed by that like… blobby moe art style, yk what I mean. Like if people can easily ignore it and enjoy the story regardless, again w/e, but it’s one of my biggest roadblocks into getting into a lot of manga/anime lol. Even w/ current Berserk, like if I’d read the most recent chapter first… I probably would not have continued w/ the story lol.

@morgiah said:


in april! i’ve read
everything i could find incl. some detailed summaries but not the full
novel yet.. i already love my four children from not-iceland

also wrt the second thing ohh very likely. that’d be, well.. significant. both good and bad 

ty for the specific month! and yeah lol. at any rate it could be interesting to consider.

@madchen said:


one griffith slowly rides guts while guts gets to suck the other off/eat him out 

Nice.

Now you’ve made me want to read The Flame Dragon Knight novel, I need to know how much Grunbeld and this Edward guy are similar to Guts and Griffith

This is how I feel. It’s getting released in English like… eventually at least. Next spring iirc?

Idk I’ve heard lots of bits and pieces about it (largely from @morgiah who has read many excerpts I think, correct me if I’m wrong) and it sounds like it contains a lot of what I enjoyed about Golden Age Berserk ngl.

also relatedly

@morgiah said:

their family situations are also similar in many ways.. oof

edward is a pastiche of many ppl ok. even canonically locus is his hero and inspiration so he’d want to be like him, at least

iiinteresting tbh. I wonder if Locus at first reminds Grunbeld of Edward then, if he’d known about him previously just in the context of Edward admiring him.

bedifear
replied to your post “You claim to have completed the threesome series but I’m afraid you…”

Griffith getting all excited because oh boy now there are TWO (2) whole Guts to attentively bang him

this has suddenly reminded me about one of @madchen (i think)’s comments that i think I completely forgot to respond to a little while ago. something about how Griffith would p much only actually be into being spitroasted if it was Guts and also Guts. which is true and this is therefore the perfect scenario.

But then the question is, would he get jealous of himself if there are also 2 of him?

(Guts would also completely bask in the attention of 2 Griffiths lbr. they would both love having 2 of the other.)

madchen
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he likes his slim hips and wide shoulders and thinks secretly to himself that griffith looks like one of those fancy greek young athlete statues he’s seen around the castle or whatever and is a little too intensely interested in said statues for reasons he doesn’t want to think about
also im obviously in
the fun club of guts is really into griffiths dick. no real clue why but
it’s so real he’s just really into it, wants to get his hand on it.
probably also greek athlete statue visuals here.

@chaoticgaygriffith said:

i wanna say griffith’s masculine
feminine beauty too, like he has a feminine face but he’s still a man ..
there’s still a bit of that masculine bone structure there, with
beautiful blue eyes and plump lips and soft skin and guts could stare at
him until he went blind

extremely legit contributions to this topic tbh and ia w/ both of you

madchen
replied to your post “do you have any griffguts hcs to share (both sfw and nsfw)? pls and…”

omg i e talked about this before but do you have any specifics in mind as far as guts favorite masculine griff qualities are ��

lol yeah some of that was def inspired by conversations w/ you

shoulder and back muscles, i wanna say. what even are other typically “masculine” physical qualities griff has lol? maybe his narrow hips too, yk the upside down triangle body shape in general. the muscle definition in general. his dick. Like from the get go Guts would be into grinding against him and jerking him off tbh.

idk what else, what do you think?

madchen
replied to your post “do griffguts give each other like massages or back/shoulder rubs or…”

those memes about not being able to move out of fear of disturbing the cat are guts after griffith has been back rubbed into aforementioned puddle

griffith starting to doze off on guts’ lap while guts just spends 20 minutes staying v still while watching him and absently rubbing his back, w/ no idea how much time is passing

ugh this is such an adorable image lol

madchen
replied to your post “i am absolutely living for your hcs, do you have any thoughts on…”

imagining all these ending with like griffith and guts clinging and wrapped all intimately around each other and hoarsely whispering to the other after like frantic passionate sex and serpico just sort of sitting off to the side looking at his cuticles
like guts leaning over and pressed
against griffith post missionary while still inside him with his arms
wrapped around griffs back and cradling him and pressed into his neck…
griffith has his own arms wrapped around guts wide shoulders and his
legs hooked over his hips… serpico is reading like the bible from the
bedside table drawer lmao

this is so real and I can just picture it perfectly lol, i love it

sobadpink
replied to your post “Do you consider griffith a villain or just an…”

Berserk is great in that almost no character is decidedly “good” or “bad” and that really messes with the status quo and expectations

yeah ia, Miura’s pretty good at giving his characters interesting, understandable, and morally grey layers, and it’s pretty much why I like Berserk.

the moral greys are especially a good touch in a story where people can literally transform into monstrous representations of themselves lol, it seems like it would be so easy to go full black and white, good and evil and I’m glad he hasn’t.

@madchen said: guts and zodd fighting devolving into
homoerotic sweaty wrestling and eventually grabbing each other’s dick
and griffith is like *kill bill sirens* it’s good

and nsfw but i feel like griffith would
get off on the idea of being like spit roasted but find it very
unappealing irl and guts would absolutely kill the other man in any
hypothetical situation lmao

lol strong agree w/ both comments. + i feel like griffith would have a lot of fantasies that would actually suck irl ngl. his imagination would be more extreme than he actually is. tho i guess this is technically neogriff so all bets are off and i kinda like the idea that he doesn’t have the same limits as human griff would. but agree wrt human griffith and i still think ngriff would just see zodd as a distraction when guts is in the picture lol so he still wouldn’t really be into it

@chaoticgaygriffith said:
no you should totally go into how the neo-hawks and guts would get along while fucking griffith 

lmao now i’m gonna be thinking about this and mb next time the topic of apostle fucking comes up i’ll have something worth adding

sobadpink
replied to your post “what do you think of the new band of the hawk? also what do you think…”

The best conflict is not Good vs. Evil, but rather Good vs. Good or Evil vs. Evil.

this is a good way of putting it tbh, and i def agree

with the caveat that my ideal conflict is [good vs evil] vs [good vs evil] ie 2 people struggling with their own inner darknesses/humanity while they’re in conflict with each other, and who complement/complete each other/pull each other towards the middle

mostly bc it describes a surprising amount of my favourite ships + character dynamics lol