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I feel like the reason y Miura refuses 2 verbally acknowledge the shounen ai elements in Berserk is because he knew he wouldn’t reach the same audience he did by ignoring his mangas gayness. I just hope he would at least make it canon in the final chapter. By then he would have nothing to lose. The manga would be done, he already made money off of it, so y not just acknowledge it. Even if it turns out it was platonic it would still count as a shounen ai for the intense bromance feelings going on

yeah like people like to believe that if there are no official rules or laws in place re: censorship then it doesn’t happen, but that’s an incredibly stupid assumption lol, and i’m constantly surprised by how often i see it in arguments about subtext, queerbaiting, etc. behind the scenes of the publishing (or film or tv) industry, everywhere, there are a ton of forces at work that make it more difficult for gay content to exist than straight content.

like gay subtext is a time honoured tradition that straight people are more than practiced at ignoring, gay text is another story entirely. ihni what miura’s actual intent is, but it’s like, certainly possible that he intended for the subtext to be picked up on and incorporated into ppl’s readings of the relationship, but will never acknowledge it, at least not til the story’s long over, bc to do so would be a risk. It would hardly be the first time in media history that’s happened lol.

i mean honestly i’d never bet on griffguts becoming textually canon, even when the story’s about to end, and miura certainly hasn’t earned any benefit of the doubt from me, like i’m not going to believe he’s behind the scenes arguing with his publishers to include non-predatory gay text lmao. but hey it seems like it might be getting to be a little easier to canonize subtext these days at least, and you never know what the future will bring. maybe it’s enough to keep a little spark of hope alive.

at the very least i could easily see the strong subtext coming back with a vengeance the next time their narratives intersect.

prettykitten123
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every time i remember wyald i feel ill. that whole ……”

I honestly HATED Wyald. I felt like the whole thing was unnecessary and was only there for shock value. We could already gather that there’s no hope after Judeau examined Griffith’s wounds. If the story continues as normal without the presence of Wyald(in the movie and someone said he wasn’t in the anime either) then that just shows that he wasn’t important and thus not needed

idk i get what you mean bc you def get (most of) the same information without him, but imo you don’t get the same tone. like the plot works fine without the wyald sequence, but both adaptions feel v rushed to me. i like how his presence draws things out and makes the sense of hopeless despair hit slower and worse.

plus there is some great thematic stuff there in the comparisons to the zodd fight, guts‘ stupid dream of killing monsters, stripping away griffith’s armour as a (heavy handed but imo effective) symbol, the kid’s toy metaphor (god i love that), etc. it’s mainly stuff you can pick up on w/out this sequence but i feel like it’s really effective to have these few chapters as a giant hammer hitting some of these points home.

obviously i hate him as a character too lol and like i said i absolutely hate the assaults, both w/ casca and with wyald’s encounter w/ the village, and like wyald’s general awful demeanour lbr, but that’s true of 90% of the sexual assault in berserk lol. like i hate the eclipse rape too, but the first half of the eclipse was still gr8. i hate the fucking stupid possessed horse during that night w/ farnese but i like guts smugly calling ghostly possession a miracle. etc. sadly berserk is full of scenes w/ aspects i love and aspects i hate lol.

prettykitten123
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If I do write the fic I would also throw Charlotte. I feel like she would be a part of the group’s extended circle through Farnese. They prob grew up together in this au since they’re both from old money and she prob begged Farnese to let her tag along so she could see Griffith. Oh my god I wonder how she is like drunk. Since she’s so innocent I can imagine that she would be the complete opposite while intoxicated.

ngl drunk charlotte sounds like she would be fun to write lol.

prettykitten123
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The gang has to bail them out. Good thing Farnese is loaded. Actually, she’s the one who arranged for the trip. Lets say that in this au she’s famous for coming from the world’s oldest ‘old money’ and somebody recognizes her(her face ends up being in the tabloids the next day)

Oh and Serpico ends up coming back when its time to leave. Where he went? He won’t tell

lol the idea of famous heiress farnese and her extremely dubious friends is delightful

I had a little thought just now of what would happen if Guts and Griffith and the rest of the gang(lets throw Serpico and Farnese in there 2) went to Vegas. Corkus is gonna drag Pippin with him to a strip club. Serpico probably goes too since he doesn’t know what else to do. Casca and Farnese ends up exploring together(and gets dragged into a party completely by accident) (1/2)

Judeau, Guts,and Griffith would go to the casinos. Judeau is a decent
gambler but Griffith, he’s like a god at it. He ends up pissing many
people off every a while since he keeps winning(they think he’s cheating
but he’s not) its safe to assume that a fight would prob break out.
Later on, they hit the bar, which isn’t really much of their
scenes(especially Guts) but after that brawl, they need a hard drink or
two. (2/3)
       
   
I wanna say that Judeau gets picked up by a girl at the bar/club. Girls
try to flirt with Guts and Griffith too, Guts just ignores them and
Griffith charmingly lets them down. I wanna be very self-indulgent and
say that they get drunk and wake up married to each other(very cliche
and unlikely to happen but still very cute.) The only way that could
happen is if Griffith is in one of his rare random moods to have
reckless fun n gets Guts to join in(somehow Idk. Guts doesnt like
getting drunk)

lol this is a modern au idea i never would’ve thought of. but i could absolutely see guts and griffith getting drunk and married in vegas.

i feel like serpico would either trail farnese or hit the nearest gay bar tho ngl

prettykitten123
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Idky but the idea of Griffith just glaring at Guts for 15 minutes was just so funny to me. I can Imagine Casca after a while deciding to play the mediator between them
If that doesn’t work and they end up
sitting in that room for a whole day, I can imagine someone just trying
to bribe them into talking with food(they’ve been in there all day, prob
starving at this point) but Griffith still wouldn’t care. He could be
five seconds away from passing out from hunger and still wont talk to
Guts

yeah if she locked them in a room together she should be prepared to step in lol, they need all the help they can get

also lol hopefully guts would at least be mature enough to start the ball rolling before that point. but idk, he’s also stupid and stubborn

prettykitten123
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“I was just thinking that, during Griffith and Guts’ fight when…”

If I was Casca I would’ve just said “he’s leaving because of what you said at the Promrose hall. Goddamn. Now can you two please talk it out because there have obviously been some miscommunication”

Like Casca understands those two perfect and knew why Guts was leaving
When she went to get
Griffith she could’ve literally told him “Guts is leaving. He’s going
because of what you said at the Promrose hall, may be you should pull
him aside and talk to him privately”

Knowing Casca that’s probably something that she did say but Griffith didn’t act upon it because of emotions. Damn emotions

mercenaries gonna mercenary i guess

to be fair I think Casca telling Griffith why Guts wanted to leave would be kind of a betrayal of trust. Guts’ reasons are pretty personal. (ON THE OTHER HAND she had no problem telling Guts all about Griffith’s incredibly personal issues, so lmao that’s kind of an inadequate excuse.)

And tbh I feel like she got Griffith to show up to keep Guts from leaving because she thought they’d be able to talk it out. Honestly I think you’re basically right lol, it’s kind of just plot convenience that she doesn’t tell Griffith why Guts was planning to leave. There’s no real reason for her to hold back.

I definitely don’t think she told Griffith though, based on his inner monologue before the duel and like… idk just from everything I feel I understand about Griffith’s narrative and inner conflicts it makes the most sense for him to take Guts leaving as a rejection. If he knew Guts was leaving because he admired him his reaction would still probably be negative, he might even still just default to challenging Guts to another duel to avoid examining how he actually feels lmao, but I think his thoughts would be very different and I don’t think he’d have a huge breakdown after if that was the case.

I was just thinking that, during Griffith and Guts’ fight when Griffith was trying to keep Guts from leaving, he literallly couldn’t asked to speak with him in private. Just like how Judeau and the others pulled him aside for a chat, Griffith could’ve done the same. I’m sure Casca was internally screaming why they were being such idiots the entire time, especially knowing how close they were and knowing that one little word could keep Guts from going

ikr, like

Casca:

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Guts, and Griffith, and Judeau, and Pippin, and Corkus:

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Because it’s true lol, this is genuinely a conflict they could’ve theoretically fixed by talking it out.

Tho I do think the story really effectively shows us why neither of them are going to talk it out, so it doesn’t feel like… stupidly frustrating the way dumb miscommunication does in fiction. It’s rooted deeply in character – Griffith can’t explain why he needs Guts to stay bc he doesn’t really know, Guts can’t explain why he wants to leave because that defeats the whole purpose, ie:

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Like, I’m rearranging my entire life to be your friend based on some weirdly specific criteria you have that I happened to overhear, criteria which explicitly precludes basing your life around another person, so it’s kind of awkward to fully explain.

So even if they did try to talk I could easily see it going nowhere because neither is quite able to explain themselves without additional motivation/understanding/etc. But yk, if they had that motivation and an opportunity to hash it out I could also see them figuring their stuff out, and then their lives would’ve been a lot happier lol.

Like if Casca had resorted to the old “lock them in a room together” sitcom plot lmao.

greenberryl
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Actually, Guts should just hook up with some cute twink boy and then go and make out right in front of neogriff. And then look where all of his “now i’m free” bullshit goes.

see this is how you get revenge. take notes guts.

@prettykitten123 said:
Damn Miura is just taking inspiration from everywhere! Lol 

yeah lol, there are so many different things i’ve seen cited as inspiration or considered references, it’s p cool

prettykitten123
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I see what you mean. Yeah I guess in the beginning Griffith wouldn’t really be responsive to Puck but Puck will still try his best to make Griffith feel better so think over time Griffith would probably become fond of him.

Yeah I could see this. Also I mean, the real blame is inconsistent tone/writing, but you could take the difference between Puck in the Black Swordsman/Lost Children arc (kind of bratty but sincere, encouraging Guts to be less of a dick, sympathetic, concerned friend) vs Puck in the MF arc (annoying one-note comic relief with Isidro), and say his magic empathy means he adapts his behaviour depending on who he’s hanging out with lol.

So he might be less annoying with Griffith.

prettykitten123
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Unfortunately all very very true :(…well at least Puck could liven up the mood and I’m sure Griffith would like him

I see Guts driving a motorcycle(its probably cliche but who cares it totally fits him)

As for Griffith maybe a luxury car like a Lexus, Mercedes-Benz, or a tesla

it’d be kind of interesting to see puck and griffith interact imo. i’m not sure myself whether griffith would like him (imo it might depend on griff’s state of mind) but i think puck’s magic empathy powers would make for an interesting combination.

also more suggestions for you divinesong (I’d @ you but it’s not letting me for some reason)

prettykitten123
replied to your post “If Casca didn’t try a deter Guts from staying and if the Eclipse never…”

Sometimes I wonder, if Guts did decide to stay with Griffith post torture, would they have discovered some way to cure him. Elfs and witches exist, I know Guts only met them because of his journey as the black swordsman but who knows? And I doubt that Guts would be the only one there taking care of him since someone has to go out and make some money to support them(Guts in my mind would still be doing mercenary work) so who knows maybe on his way back home from the
Battlefield he meets Puck at that tavern
bar from the Blackswordman arc. I’m not sure if Pucks magic would be
enough, I’m not even sure if Schierke’s would be enough if they were to
meet her in this version. What do you think?

tbh I think for the purposes of fic or whatever you could justify it either way. also imo it would make perfect sense for them to run into Puck like immediately because remember they were in the same area right around the time of the Eclipse – Puck was with the troupe Rickert ran into, probably Judeau’s old troupe.

I would say that Puck wouldn’t be able to heal him though. He doesn’t fix Guts’ scars when he heals him, and idk just going off what feels like logic lol I’d assume you’d need like, a combination of surgery and magic to knit Griffith’s wrist and ankle tendons back together. Like, to get kind of graphic for a sec, when you sever tendons they snap back like elastics afaik, so I feel like you’d need to stretch and hold them together while healing him. Maybe extra strength magic could grow him a new tongue, but probably not Puck or Schierke.

I do think that Puck could probably help the giant patches of missing skin scar over, mostly because if you’re not ignoring that part of his injuries then I would demand that that issue be fixed ASAP in a fic lmao.

But like I think it would also make logical sense that say, if they ran into a witch who specialized in healing, she could probably manage to heal him. Or someone in Elfhelm could do it.

But then if you want it to be impossible you could just say that magic can’t fix wounds that have already healed and scarred over, or regenerate flesh beyond what the body is already equipped to do, (eg it can make scarring happen faster/better, but not actually regrow missing body parts) making his severed tongue and tendons permanent.

beheliit
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siren fits him Perfectly
maybe even a seraphim angel type?

like just looks more like an angel than a bird, or are angel sirens from something? either way sounds cool and fitting

@prettykitten123 said:
Ooh imagine him as an inccubus. 

well appearing in people’s dreams in a tempting manner does kinda fit what with ngriff’s whole ‘desired’ thing and everyone’s hawk dreams. tho incubi mythology also fits some of the least fun aspects of the story a little too well for me lol, so it wouldn’t be my first choice.

prettykitten123
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@bthump lol, dont worry back then being the illegitament child makes you an outsider. Very much like Jon Snow from Game Of Thrones, since he was a bastard he had no rights or titles to any. The same for King Roberts 100 bastards who were all poor. But yeah Idk I kinda like the idea of his birth being a ‘scandalous’ thing but that’s just me. Him being 100% commoner is equally as interesting. I just wish we got a little bit more details about his past in canon

yeah true. that’s kind of the handy thing about Griffith’s past being such a blank slate at least, you can kind of go with whatever you want. it’d be nice to know more in canon but it’s nice to have the space to make stuff up too lol.

prettykitten123
replied to your post “Hi)) So, I wanna ask – have you some headcanons about Griffith’s…”

What if his father was an aristocrat? Since his mother could’ve been a prostitute its very likely that some of her customers would be men of noble status.

oh yeah I mean it’s totally possible, there’s no details of canon that contradict it, but just personally I prefer thinking of Griffith as 100% a commoner bc I feel like, part of the point of his narrative is that he’s a total outsider breaking into this private club (royalty/nobility) through sheer force of will for the sake of fucking it up and changing the rules, and I love that, and if secretly it’s actually his birthright it kind of ruins it for me, just on a thematic level.

i mean that’s kind of a silly distinction i guess because yk, griffith was chosen by god and all lol, destiny is definitely a major part of the narrative of berserk, but just taking the class themes on their own i still prefer griffith’s narrative as an upstarter rather than as like, a lost scion, kinda thing.

(also like, obviously as a headcanon and especially as just a random fact that no one, not even griffith, even knows, it doesn’t actually make a single iota of an actual difference, except to me lol, bc this is just how I like… do media. basically i’m just being weird and nitpicky, not saying this is a universal thing or something anyone w/ this headcanon or using it for fic or w/e should even bother to take my thoughts on the themes of griffith’s narrative into consideration lol.

plus i mean that’s not getting into the way his ascention to royalty isn’t portrayed as wholly positive in the canon, to say the least lmfao, so theoretically you could say griffith being julius’ secret kid or smthn is actually symbolic of him becoming the thing he wants to overturn, but like… idc. team falconia. i don’t think that’s actually the point of griffith’s narrative despite what a giant mess it is at times.)

prettykitten123
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Reading this got me so upset ngl. Having all of those easily answered questions all in one place. Like UGH my god Guts! Like I understand why he didn’t want to jump to the painfully obvious reason as to why Griffith would risk everything for him, like maybe Guts doesnt see himself as valuable or as something someone could genuinely care for, Thanks a lot Gambino you permanently gave my baby trust issues.

ikr it’s so depressing when you think about why guts keeps asking 😦

tho to be fair there was like a period of… who knows how long, probably no more than a month or two and maybe less, but it was a period of some amount of time when he felt loved and valued as a person

then griffith’s dream fucked that up, but yk, it was nice while it lasted

prettykitten123
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@bthump omg that is sooo true! Even if Serpico were to hear the promrose hall speech he still would’ve stayed by Griffith’s side.

yeeeah v true. on the flipside tho idt he has enough spine/determination/intrigue for griffith to fall for him. they’d make for an interesting dynamic tho.

also @madchen lmao it wouldn’t work out anyway. they both want big brawny dudes lbr.

prettykitten123
replied to your post “do you have any… griffguts pillow talk ideas… i think griff likes…”

For a post coital small talk thing I imagine Griffith maybe bringing up maybe a favorite game he used to play as a kid or a toy he used to be attached to. I also see them maybe laughing about some of the funny moments that happens in the Band of Hawks when they’re not in battle but at their camp site. I also see Griffith talking about something he read in a book or maybe he mythology he likes or a person he looks up to. He would definitely try to get Guts to talk more
About his thoughts.
When it comes to Guts I’m not quite sure what he would talk about. I’m
inclined to say maybe a happy moment that wasnt really all that
significant but nice that happened to Guts. Griffith is the only person
Guts would let himself be vulnerable to and vice versa so I do see him
talking about more personal subjects though I dont think Guts would be a
fan of talking about heavy subjects after him and Griffith just
finished doing the horizontal cha cha

So yeah I do see Guts talking about
minor nice momenta he had in his childhood. The things he talks about
arent significant but the fact that he is willing to discuss them is
what’s important since Guts is secretive about his childhood.

this is so heartwarming tbh, especially the idea of guts talking about a nice moment of his childhood, i could see that (idk what it would be, but yk i’m sure he must have /some/) and it feels like it would be a really touching counterpoint to being triggered (in canon, or in a previous time w/ griffith in this hypothetical scenario, yk).

prettykitten123
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One of these days I will reread the golden age arc and write the most shameless must self-indulgent smut for those two, I will go all out, pull out all the stops. I like my smut explicit and without shame lol. If madchen doesnt mind I would like to borrow the Guts service top idea. And I know you guys said Guts probably wouldnt be into rough sex and I agree too but he would be sooo good at it. I will write that in just to be self-indulgent.

niiiice! nothing wrong with shameless self indulgence, i support you

slightly vent-y so this is under a cut

prettykitten123
replied to your post “shipping g*tsca is one thing but glorifying their relationship is so…”

@bthump this is unfortunately a problem found in too many fandoms, one group of fans feeling more superior over another because of their ship. Kurokura shippers get a lot of heat in the hunter x hunter fandom, same as izaya x shizuo shippers and Izuku x Bakugou. People just like being opinionated assholes but I feel like people get all pissy more so when the ship is yaoi

oh yeah i definitely see it everywhere, i don’t personally know any of those examples but i see it in my other fandoms every day so.

it’s basically shipwars but instead of calling shippers of the thing you don’t like dumbasses you call them bigoted and/or abusive. it’s awful, unfun, and only makes it harder to call out actually offensive behaviour on an individual basis when everyone’s used to being called, like, racist for having either poe or finn top the other in their star wars fic, or fetishizing for shipping anything gay that isn’t the current acceptable “pure” thing of the week lbr, or pedophilic for shipping two literal adults with an age difference, or misogynist for shipping two dudes who spend all their screen time together while ignoring a non-canonical wife that was mentioned off-handedly in one line of a novelization, etc.

(none of these are exaggerations lol. i once saw someone call bryan fuller a gay fetishizer for wearing a shirt with hannigram fanart. yes, the gay man who wrote the ship into his own show lmao.)

and yeah it always hits the gay ships hardest is2g, every single time.

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as far as i remember guts only ever explicitly comments on appearance/beauty when it comes to griffith (save for those two casca instances already mentioned)

ty for the second opinion!

Yeah like tbf there aren’t a whole pile of examples of Guts commenting on Griffith’s looks either, but he’s also got “bet that’s the first time that pretty face’s ever been hit,” lol. “The more dazzling he is in my eyes” is kind of a grey area since that’s not so much about looks but yk. Dude def waxes poetic about him a lot.

@prettykitten123 said:
But when you think
about it Griffith is the most beautiful person in ths entire manga, abd
looks aside he is also the most intelligent and the most ambitious. Guts
already set the bar too high by falling for Griffith first. Everyone
else just looks like pebbles on the road in comparison to Griffith XD 

lmao true, once you fall for the dude who’s so beautiful it’s an important thematic plot point, you’re kinda screwed.

prettykitten123
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I think Griffith is gay, even though I feel like he doesn’t know it(maybe after a while he came to realize it, especially after Guts left him) as for Guts his sexuality is a mystery to me. I know he definitely likes men(even though he probably definitely doesnt understand that or acknowledge it) attraction to women is debatable.
The way I see it we
cant really pinpoint what Guts’ sexuality is or his thoughts on women.
Griffith was the first to give Guts something that he never had and I
feel like his affection for Griffith is dominantly based on this. No one
else in the manga, both men and women, have yet to give Guts what
Griffith gave him thus why no one has yet to win over his affections.

ia tbh

for me I think Griffith is variable, like i could see him being either super repressed about being gay thanks to a) his dream revolving around marrying a woman and b) gennon being the only textually gay dude in berserk (thx miura) and griffith being taken advantage of at probably the age where he’d be just starting to realize he had feelings of attraction to men, like, that seems extremely likely to fuck him up.

But I could also see him accepting that he’s attracted to men – I mean he reads a lot, he seems fairly worldly, maybe gennon isn’t his only exposure to same-sex attraction, etc – but also not thinking it’s important because it’s incompatible with his dream.

Either way though I definitely can’t see him as anything but gay.

Wrt Guts I see him as gay too. He could be bi easily enough, but it’s just so easy for me to see his short-lived relationship with Casca as repression at work lol. Like saying she was the only person who could touch him back in the day, which was textually because she’s a woman (and also wrong bc Griffith also could) feels really suggestive of this to me. And of course the way their relationship screams rebound from their feelings for Griffith for both of them. And post eclipse, the only times he thinks of Casca sexually are when Griffith is also somehow involved, a la

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And of course the entire Beast of Darkness debacle.

But yeah sexualities aside, since I mean it still could go either way from gay to bi, so w/e, that’s a really good point about Griffith being the only person in the manga who’s given Guts what he’s so desperately wanted – ie affection and attention and respect from someone Guts respects. It’s Griffith who he wants to look at him. Not Casca, not any of his rpg group or any of the other Hawks, just Griffith. It’s Griffith whose respect he feels like he needs to earn, no one else’s. It’s Griffith who he needs to feel equal to, no one else. It’s Griffith who he’s been obsessed with, no one else.

It’s why their relationship is still so extra lol, it’s shown as singular in the story, whether Miura meant that to be sexual or not.

So yeah idk, good comment basically, I just wanted to ramble on the subject lol.

prettykitten123
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This was the best lol. You’ve just made an outline to a high quality fanfiction my friend. I do like the idea of Griffith overcompensating and ends up causing a setback for the Hawks and himself. I feel like even when they do become a couple things would still be a bit awkward but in a cute way, this is their first relationship.

lol ty, feel free to steal it (this goes for anyone haha).

well i mean tbf it’s anon’s idea anyway so maybe i shouldn’t say that. Anon, you should write it!

and yeah ia. cute awkwardness would fit them really well. they’re both disasters but yk that doesn’t necessarily have to mean life-ruining, it could be cute too in an au.

prettykitten123
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@bthump I feel like the Berserk from the 90s and the Berserk now are two different stories. Idk maybe Miura is doing this because the ‘power of friendship’ theme is so popular in anime but that’s usually a trope found in shounen not really seinen comics. But Idk maybe he is just doing this just so he could rip our hearts open again like before or maybe he doesn’t berserk to be as dark as it used to.

Yeah who knows, like it’s definitely way lighter now. It’s still violent ofc, but the violence is so much less personal, the characters are much healthier, etc.

I guess I think we’re probably not going to stay this light forever, there’s been plenty of ominous foreshadowing and I’ve been saying for ages that Guts needs to go full Beast of Darkness for a while or everything w/ the armour and his evil alter ego is pointless, plus I think Elfhelm is going to end up being sinister and not Guts’ allies, but I don’t think we’re ever going to go back to Lost Children or Black Swordsman arcs style dark. After 200 chapters of Guts internalizing some life lessons and chilling out I’m sure that’s not going to be just wiped away.

Also while I’m responding to replies I might as well hit a couple more of your replies on other topics

I really hope the
final battle between them would be a mixture of both, an epic battle
filled to the brim with intense emotions and tension. In all honesty I
dont want either of them to die but Idk I feel like one of them would
die. Im inclined to say Griffith would probably but a part of me feels
like Miura might throw a curve ball and kill Guts.

Yeah I could see either Guts or Griffith dying, or both. tbh what I hope is that if there is an epic guts v griff battle the actual volume long fight scene or w/e lol goes to Guts vs Zodd, and maybe whatever allies Guts has vs apostles and stuff, and after the dust settles we get the intimate and emotional griffguts confrontation.

Idk I feel like Guts vs Griffith being an epic physical battle would be distracting and kind of out of place. Gimme a 3rd duel with like, one strike a la the 2nd duel, that is entirely predicated on their emotions.

I have a thought, if eclipse never
happened and Griffith became king and entered a secret relationship with
Guts. I wonder how long it would take for Charlotte to start to notice.
I feel like everyone else would have a feeling but Charolette since she
lives in her own dream world when it comes to Griffith.

lol yeah I could definitely see Charlotte being the last to know. Esp bc I don’t think Guts and Griffith would be all that great at hiding it lol. Oh well she can eventually find out, be miserable for a while, and then start her own affair with Anna.

Is Berserk still doing the ‘the power of friendship’ theme? I stopped reading around the Falconia Arc. Its like, I like that Guts has friends again and everything isnt so hopeless anymore but this is Berserk. As much as I love the characters, and a part of me doesnt want anything bad to happen to them, I’m still waiting for something fucked up to happen.

Some mild spoilers below fyi, but short answer, yes imo, and ngl I hope something fucked up happens lol. I also like the characters but Guts’ story has been too happy recently with super low stakes and it’s been so boring to me.

But yeah it’s been leaning pretty heavy on ppl saying that the rpg group’s journey together has been gr8 and worthwhile etc pretty recently and yeah I’d call it like the central ~thing~ going on rn lol. Schierke and Farnese putting Casca back together and using symbols of all their friends/relationships/histories etc as weapons in Casca’s mind, Farnese saying she thinks she can help Casca get over her trauma bc they bonded over the course of their journey, and Guts talking to Serpico and Roderick about how grateful he is that they’re with him, that kinda thing.

The real question is whether it’s talking the friendships up so the audience will be extra sad when tragedy ruins everything, or whether it’s set up for narrowly averted tragedy through the power of friendship. Or, what I think is probably most likely, some tragedy but also friendship saving everything from being completely horrible.