do you think that the night after guys left was the first time griffith had sex with a woman? i feel like this breaches into more headcanon territory but i have gay griffith thoughts to water

I choose to believe

idk if I can really make a case for it, other than the fact that like… that sex scene was super basic lol.

also i like the idea of griffith thinking he needs to be good at hetero sex so he can seduce charlotte properly for the sake of his dream when the time comes, and then convincing himself that reading the books he canonically has totally covers it and there’s no need to actually have sex with a woman

hope you get your gay griffith thoughts watered bc i always want to read more of them

madchen
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realizing the kid in griffiths hesterosexual nightmare is his and cascas gave me hives
 cool how this whole situation is
realized in gruesome reverse, with griffith off “pursuing his dream” and
casca and guts “kid” being a literal part/reminder of griffiths absence

ooh good point. and also that is a reason i can get behind for guts being freaked out by the fetus in the black swordsman arc. obviously not authorially intended at that point and i don’t think it actually works wrt symbolism, but emotionally i dig it

also yeah lol that scene is like 3 pages of quiet domesticity and i think it disturbs me more than anything else in berserk

course a lot of that is what i bring to the table with my berserk is about heteronormativity and repression hot takes but yk, still

madchen
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i always say guts doesn’t know how to work a phone but i love the idea of him taking candid pics of griff and looking at them lovingly later
has so many sleeping/napping griff pics

yesss

and like if griffith was looking thru guts’ phone and stumbled across the folder of pics of himself sleeping he would completely love it, like it wouldn’t even occur to him to be creeped out lol, it’d just be evidence that guts is super into him even at his most un-put-together

madchen
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you mentioning guts wants to lay his claim on griffith got me thinking about how absolutely enthusiastic and proud he would be in modern au of griff when they get married. like look at my beautiful smart sweet perfect husband. he’s mine and we have matt hung rings and everything. my husband 🙂

this is so cute omg i can’t handle this

i love them

since it’s been on topic a bit lately, ya got any possessive guts hcs and general meta thoughtz asia

On the more headcanony side I think that like, Guts would be possessive but he wouldn’t really think of it as possessiveness – it’d feel like a natural extention of their v exclusive, v intense relationship. Griffith would be possessive in turn ofc.

And it wouldn’t manifest in like, being jealous of Charlotte if Griffith still plans to marry her for power. I figure they’d talk about that and Guts would understand it’s business lol, he wouldn’t be threatened by Charlotte. But at the same time he would demand Griffith’s attention and time. Maybe not literally demand lol, but he’s really emotionally needy lbr and I think he’d get sulky if he didn’t get enough time with Griffith bc he’s busy being a king or w/e. We see that in canon even, when he tries to visit him after Zodd but can’t bc of the nobles.

But then like in canon Griffith would reassure him and go out of his way to give him that time and attention because well, he’s also needy and they’re both obsessed with each other and neither wants to spend time apart.

So things like Griffith putting off some king stuff to laze around in bed with Guts would be perfect for Guts. Or things like having sex on the throne at three am when the room’s empty lol, or leaving tea with Charlotte early because the Raider Captain has something important to “discuss” with him. Guts would want to make his claim on Griffith, and have Griffith show that he’s the most important.

But again like, he wouldn’t express that, and Griffith (unless something drastic has gone down) wouldn’t admit to himself that Guts is the most important aspect of his life. But it would still show through in little moments and Guts would notice them (yk assuming no Promrose Hall speech colouring his perception etc etc).

Sexually you got leaving marks under clothes, fucking him hard enough that he still feels it the next day, teasing and drawing it out as a way of focusing Griffith’s attention wholly on him. Like, considering how needy they both are when it comes to wanting the others’ attention and regard and desire, sex could get ridiculously intense lol. We’ve talked about this before a bit but yk it holds true. They just both want to be wanted by the other so badly lol.

On the more meta-y side, I’d argue that their relationship comes with a side of possessiveness from both – again, as a kind of natural byproduct of the singular intensity of it. They are each others’ only one, and they both want to be each others’ only one. I don’t think there’s a lot of like, canon elements that demonstrate Guts being possessive to the same explicit extent of eg Griffith’s “if I can’t have him, I don’t care,” but imo it’s there under the surface.

Guts wants to make Griffith look at him. At first that’s the whole quest for a dream thing, but after the Eclipse it’s his revenge quest. He wants to kill him because, more than anything else, he wants acknowledgement that he matters to him.

This hold on Griffith is exactly what Guts wanted, and still wants.

It doesn’t manifest as jealousy, like we see him trying to set Griffith and Casca up for a while, but it’s more like, yk, that need for attention. He’s possessive of Griffith’s priorities. The reason I think he’s ok with setting Griffith and Casca up is because lover isn’t a category he can see himself fitting into, and moreover, true friend and equal trumps lover anyway as far as he’s concerned. His competition is Griffith’s dream, not Griffith’s other relationships.

I mean you can split hairs on the definition of possessiveness and whether Guts’ feelings count if it’s less jealousy and more wanting to be the most important person to Griffith, but yk I think it’s an element.

madchen
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i never really thought bc griffith being ashamed bc of that but like yeah it makes sense that he would feel bad and dirty for expressing genuine sexual attraction lmao. maybe even feel that he should feel emasculated or something bc of it?
also yea guts blurts shit out all the
time when he can’t hold it in. he asks griff if he can kiss him a lot

yeah I mean I don’t think it’s necessary or anything to be ic, but I’m kinda into the idea of Griffith being confident and seductive and sexy etc, just as good in bed as he is doing everything else, and then one day something relatively innocuous suddenly brings all these repressed feelings out and he asks if Guts thinks he’s [insecurity] and Guts is completely blindsided

It’s that contrast between the surface and the glimpses underneath that I just want to apply to everything lol.

Also nice, Guts asking Griff if he can kiss him is a++

madchen
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lmao i love the last sitcom lock em in a room together but. griffith would be like a feral bristly cat and not speak but just glare at guts for a good fifteen minutes and guts would just be sheepish and probably start feeling embarrassed about wanting to leave before they actually speak…

yeah i feel like they’d need like, a day and/or some kind of cartoonish ticking time bomb threat before they really started talking. and guts would have to start it, not just because he’s more likely to but also because he at least knows what’s going on lmao while i think griffith’s kind of stuck on ‘guts can’t leave. why? because… idk i own him or something. also the thought of guts leaving me makes me want to set myself on fire.’

ngl i think the easiest (relatively lol) way for this to get figured out is to have one of the ppl in the know about guts’ decision tell griffith, because then he has a starting point (i don’t look down on guts, do i? why or why not?) and prying the truth out of guts would be hard.

madchen
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this is so sweet… thinking bout a disabled post torture griffith and guts having a potential healthy romantic and even sexual relationship when its narratively framed as Bad is hmmm good
another point for griffiths behelit shouldve cascas all along au tbh

lol like i know there’s a million and one ways guts and post-torture griffith living a life together could go wrong but I’m an optimist and I think they could make it work

plus yk a lot of the narrative tension in the lead up to the Eclipse comes from teasing the audience with hope spots, which become meaningless if Guts and Griffith are doomed no matter what. I say they could’ve been happy together.

also lol idgaf what Miura probably intended, griffguts is extraordinarily readable as a story about how two dudes failing to act on their obvious sexual attraction was what ruined everything and it’s more fun that way.

so yeah if griffguts got together the behelit would have to be Casca’s. It’s perfect.

heres a fun question… how do you think our boys would eventually (presuming lol) start discussing their relationship on like, romantic and sexual etc terms after they first get together in canonverse?

hmmm as far as terminology goes I’d assume they’d just default to “lover” if they ever like, had to label their relationship. Or when it comes to internal thoughts, I could see both Guts and Griffith just thinking of the other as “mine” lol. “He’s my… mine.”

But like, when it comes to relationship discussions and stuff, lol i have such a hard time imagining them actually talking about it. I feel like it would follow the trajectory of the canon discussions of their relationship, in which Guts asks and Griffith prevaricates. like
Guts: So what are we now?
Griffith: the same as always but now we have sex :)))
Guts: ten minutes ago you were crying and saying you loved me
Griffith: :)))))))))))))

Assuming they got together in a relatively low-key way.

If it was like, after some hugely revelatory event in which eg Griffith threw away his dream for Guts, or Guts nearly died, or something, then I think they could have a v emotionally charged discussion w/ confessions of love, Griffith making Guts promise he’ll never leave, “you’re the only one” “it’s always just been you,” all those fun + v griffguts cliches.

Or even if they got together in an emotionally vulnerable moment, like say Tombstone of Flame but Guts isn’t planning to leave so he actually says the right thing and also kisses him. I could see love confessions then too. Things like “I need you.”

Like if their relationship just evolved naturally I feel like Griffith would avoid examining it as much as possible, but if it happened in a charged, emotionally intense moment then Griffith might be forced to confront his feelings. Like I still think that Griffith genuinely believed what he said when he told Charlotte he had no friends lol, so I feel like the contradiction between seeing none of the Hawks as equals while being wildly in love with Guts is something he’d continue to avoid as long as possible.

He might never even have to confront it if this was a scenario where he did attain his dream and become king etc while in a down low relationship with Guts. He’d just naturally shift to thinking of Guts as the most important thing/an equal despite social status, while letting go of his beliefs about what constitutes equality lol. Since he’s obtained his dream, his obsession is no longer necessary and he automatically drops a lot of the associated bullshit, kinda thing.

I don’t ever really see them sitting down and having a talk about relationship expectations or that kind of thing though lol, I figure they’d deal with stuff as it comes, and probably badly. Like, eg, I think Guts would default to monogamy without them ever having to talk about it, like he wouldn’t be interested in anyone else while fucking Griffith anyway, but if Griffith ever thought he was then… well imo Griffith wouldn’t say anything outright but he’d get sulky and weird and passive aggressive until Guts either forced the issue and made Griffith admit what his problem was or figured it out himself, and then they’d have the talk about exclusivity. After Guts teased him about being jealous.

Idk I always think of Guts as the more emotionally mature one who would actually be able to have adult discussions while Griffith is avoidant, and Guts is mostly fine w/ that bc he’s a go with the flow kinda guy so they generally would leave things unsaid but when it’s immediately important Guts would be able to force the conversation.

Tho that said this is only the case when it’s something bothering Griffith, or something that’s objectively an issue that needs to be resolved, like, idk, Guts asking where he fits in when Griffith gets engaged to Charlotte or w/e. But if Guts was personally bothered by something, feeling neglected, jealous, insecure, whatever, he’d never say anything, at least not to Griffith. Maybe being friends with Casca would come in handy here lol.

I feel like this was v meandering and only kind of actually addressed what you asked lol. But w/e close enough. What do you think?

hey. asia… do you have any modern au coming out thoughtz?

(sry this took a while to answer bc i had to think about it lol)

tbh i could see so many different possibilities being in character, esp depending on the details of the au. But like, assuming this AU is as close to canon as possible while still being set in the present w/ current identity politics and a gay community etc, yk both still have traumatic histories, griffith still has a dream that requires marrying a woman, etc etc, I can maybe throw out a few ideas. tho again like, nothing set in stone.

I guess ultimately I really want them to be each others’ realizations.

I like the idea of Guts’ being a slow realization that kind of sneaks up on him, where first he realizes that he would absolutely be dtf Griffith and it’s not til after that realization that he figures out that makes him gay. Like I mean he’d fall into that “it’s not guys, it’s just you” cliche but he eventually realizes that no, actually it is men.

He might try experimenting too – like surely it’s just because Griffith looks androgynous, so being with a woman would be better – but nope, doesn’t work.

Might be worth mentioning here (tho i’m sure u already know this) that I hc Guts as gay rather than bi bc Miura did a great job of making his interest in Casca feel super inauthentic to me lol.

Also I think it’s fair to assume that his csa trauma would lead to some discomfort here, but at the same time I don’t think he’d consciously like assume all gay people are predatory or even assume his rapist was gay and not just a pedophile. He might be uncomfortable being checked out in bars at first, and I feel like he’d be prone to worrying that his sexuality makes him specifically more likely to hurt someone bc feeling like a monster is kind of a canon issue he has, but he’s smart and fairly self aware and wouldn’t make it anyone else’s problem for the most part, barring like flashbacks during sex or smthn.

Also he’s tough enough that he’d never really feel like he’s in physical danger with anyone else. So assuming he’s in a good place in his personal life (ie not in a walking disaster “don’t touch me” phase) I don’t think he’d show any discomfort. (And I mean in canon the first time we ever saw him relaxed and happy was while having a water fight with a naked dude who he thought came onto him when they first met a few days earlier. I really don’t think it would be a huge issue.)

And overall I think he’d be fairly low-key about it. He’s gay but it’s just a description to him rather than an identity to build his life around. He wouldn’t be closeted but he wouldn’t be out to everyone in his life like, idk coworkers or w/e. Tho eventually I think everyone would realize because I think he’d kind of want to show Griffith off lol.

Griffith I could see like, simultaneously knowing he’s gay all his life and refusing to fully acknowledge it. He’s gotta achieve a goal which requires a certain image which requires heterosexuality. Maybe he’s not actually attracted to women, whatever, but that doesn’t actually matter as far as he’s concerned.

So with Guts being his realization, what that means is that Guts is the breaking point where Griffith realizes he’d rather have Guts than the dream. Yk, like in canon, but with a) no torture chamber, and b) the addition of this realization leading to the larger realization that he can live as his authentic self and be happy.

Like I’ve mentioned before that in Berserk you have this dichotemy of the dream/het marriage/emotional repression vs guts/emotional expression and yk in a modern AU you can add coming out to emotional expression.

Like we’ve talked about this b4 but I’m saying it again bc I love this idea where Griffith realizing he’s in love with Guts and would rather be in a relationship with him than achieve whatever his modern AU dream is is like a catalyst for dropping the image of respectability and ~finding~ himself. He’d make a bunch of gay friends, start experimenting with more gnc looks, volunteer at pride, go to protests, etc.

Though if his motivations for achieving his dream are similar to canon (mb not the whole for the sake of the dead thing, but yk guilt, to assuage a feeling of inherent worthlessness, to justify things he did to achieve it that he’s ashamed of, w/e) there’s also plenty of room for some angst and drama in between that realization that he wants to give it all up for Guts and embracing a new life. Some “am I selfish/terrible for choosing Guts” soul searching or w/e.

ALSO I feel like modern au griffith could’ve been fairly gnc as a child – wanting to play with girls’ toys, singing along to britney spears, saying he wants to marry the disney princes when he grows up, wanting his hair long, playing dress up in dresses, etc – with some kind of catalyst that hammers home this idea that to get the thing he wants he has to police his behaviour and be like everyone else. this is self indulgent but i just like this concept of like, knowing what you’re about as a kid and then having to unlearn everything you’ve internalized since then. it’s an appealing narrative to me.

And like I could see Griffith’s trauma with Gennon actually affecting him and his opinions wrt sexuality/internalized homophobia more than Guts’ trauma affects Guts, mostly because Gennon was such a goddamn evil gay stereotype in canon, plus Griffith’s own self-loathing compounded w/ the idea that he’s always sort of known he was gay = a secondary motivation for trying to embody the image of a heteronormative ideal, to distance himself from the idea that he’s anything like Gennon. Like Griffith’s trauma comes with a side of effeminate stereotypes and ostentatious homoerotic castle decor, etc. But I don’t think it’s necessary either, like it’s not something I’m super interested in exploring and hey maybe modern AU Gennon is less of an offensive stereotype. and/or Griffith is v socially aware and capable of recognizing that Gennon isn’t representative. w/e, kind of a take it or leave it thing I guess.

Also I’m not really envisioning these 2 concepts (guts and griffith) in the same story lol. Maybe they could fit together but I didn’t really think about it.

And again like, I’m just throwing stuff at the wall lol, not saying this is my Official Take on Sexuality and Characterization or w/e.

madchen
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the top row of panels are actually A Lot for some reason

like their interaction and the reason why casca is pissed off, which makes griffith’s commiserating hand on her shoulder a ridiculously shallow and assholish gesture

or like casca’s awful skin tight pants lol

actually ugh now that i think about it it rly sucks how casca starts out violently objecting to this shit – punching guts in his stab wound here after being ordered to keep him alive bc another man can’t nakedly share body heat with him, and then throwing a knife at guts when she wakes up naked next to him again in the cave – and eventually ends up fucking guts. i’m sure miura was going for more of a cutesy forced-contact-leading-to-more bullshit vibe but doing it like this makes it feel more like she’s being worn down into her societally-assigned place (”in this man’s heart”)

idek i’m just tired and rambly. i hate romance tropes they’re all like this.

madchen
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i just like to think of him as being really into analyzing literature and philosophy is all but also i might be projecting 😦

i mean to be fair one of the few things we know about griffith that doesn’t seem intrinsically connected to his dream is that he likes to read

image

so I don’t think it’s a stretch

ETA: 

@madchen said: and yeaaaa i think he’s potentially a
perfectionist with goals but otherwise interprets his love for guts as
want/need bc that’s the lens he viewed the other big thing in his life
for so long

also yeah def, and I really love that moment actually where griff is like “i must obtain the things i desire” bc griffith spends 10 minutes with guts and guts is already up there with his dream on griffith’s list of important life goals.

madchen
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i have more thoughts but yea i think griffiths possessiveness is a childish interpretation of love on his part… i think he could also be possessive and obsessive to a extent bc he has that kind of personality but only over serious situations like u said. i also totally hc griffith as borderline so yea.
i actually think
griffith would enjoy english and sociology and literature.. like i read
him as a humanities person over a stem person as far as modern liberal
education (in the us tbh) goes! he’s still smart so he could def go into
a science but i don’t think it would be his true passion or interest!

yeah that’s a good way of putting it. that ‘i must obtain the things i desire’ where he like, sees guts and decides he needs him in his life the same way he saw a castle and decided he wanted it when he was a kid. He doesn’t like jump from obsession to obsession or anything, he has a grand total of two things he’s ever wanted in 20 or w/e years of life, but man does he want them lol.

also yeah I kind of like the idea of Griffith being into science bc it’s not something I usually think of and it’s cute to think of him geeking out over biology or something lol, but yeah I think of him as more into humanities by default. or politics/law if we’re going for more of a still-obsessed-with-an-ambition angle.

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tbh any sort of converse au where social norms regarding being gay are more a la… idk captive prince? is good for berserk like ill take it man

tbh yeah this would simplify so much lol, and they need all the help they can get

@ your tags same there’s just so much
physical chemistry on top of the issues they got to make it real good 😦

griffith withdrawing
after getting freaked out by how comfortable he is being vulnerable +
intimate w guts and guts eventually trying to reconnect after giving
griff space he thinks he needs

au where they can say “i love you” during sex 😦

yeah exactly it’s like the perfect combination of being an emotional and psychological minefield while there’s still just such a strong pull between them that you know they’d be able to persist and work through it regardless because they just would not be able to go their separate ways (guts leaving in canon doesn’t count bc he specifically did it to get closer to griffith in a roundabout way).

also physically, lbr they need to fuck. it’s the physical chemistry like you said, once they open that door there’s no closing it.

and agh i can see the 2nd point so easily lol. and guts giving griffith space would just freak griffith out more 😦

sub space griffith. just spreading good vibes.

this was a good thing to come home from work and see lol ty

(established relationship canon au where griffith and charlotte have arranged themselves a lavender marriage and the whole focus of an epic length story is guts and griffith slowly but surely working all the kinks out of and into their sex life. like i s2g every time i think about these 2 having sex there are fifty potential land mines and hazards and ways everything could go very wrong but also ways everything could go very right. there’s so much material there!

like just reading this ask made me think about how badly griffith could crash afterwards like the first few times. just from like, getting too into it to think and existing blissfully in the moment for an hour or two and therefore second guessing everything all at once when his brain comes back online after.

but then eventually he would just be able to enjoy losing himself during sex with no misgivings and that would be a genuinely significant bit of character development for him lol.)

madchen
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tbh that’s it besides some quirks with laurent and his history him and griffith are pretty different imho. damien and guts are way different besides being big and more physical
like imho damen has his shit together way more than guts lol

ty, yeah I didn’t really see any personality similarities between damen and guts. i don’t know anything about laurent yet tho so i can’t judge there, but I’m not really expecting serial-numbers-filed-off-berserk-fanfiction I guess lol.

there’s a second opinion for you anon!

Hi! Do you have any other ships like Griffith x Guts you love? Like, from movies or books maybe?

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bthump:

I can only think of a couple suggestions lol, and I might’ve been unnecessarily detailed since neither ship is all that obscure and you’ve probably heard of them, but w/e you gave me an excuse to compare them to griffguts lol and I’m taking it. so ty.

The first is Ryokira (manga version especially), which is kind of obvious and often compared to Griffguts since Berserk is partly inspired by Devilman. Both are friends to enemies ships, both involve inner darknesses and divine transformations/reveals, both have very convoluted borderline incestuous resurrection plots lmao, both have a blond in love with his bff and jealous of his bff’s sort-of-not-really girlfriend, both have one character ruining his whole life goal because he fell in love.

Ryokira is nice because it’s canon – even requited canon in the sequels, though you have to read Devilman Lady for that, and that’s a tall order lmao. There’s some fuck shit going on w/ homophobic (and transphobic) concepts of how same-sex attraction and gender intersect in both Devilman and Devilman Lady, but if you can power thru that it’s def worth reading the original manga, and like… worth reading a summary of DL lol.

And the other is H@nnigram from NBC’s H@nnibal!

tbh there are actually a surprising amount of similarities imo:

  • mutual pining
  • friends to enemies
  • betrayal
  • one character begins to succumb to his inner darkness because he wants revenge on the other
  • one character is so in love with the other he destroys his own life and that love is the direct cause of his subsequent imprisonment
  • one character tries to escape his own life-destroying feelings by killing the other and fails (fails way harder than Griffith tbh, who at least partially succeeded)
  • both characters are lonely – one is antisocial, one is very social but hides his true self – and their connection is the only thing that assuages that loneliness for both of them.
  • one character reacts to perceived rejection after letting the other “see” him very badly
  • one character thinks about the other after (and probably during) sex

unlike Griffith H@nnibal is “evil” from the beginning so h@nnigram’s initial friendship has layers of deception and it’s pretty fucked up, and most of the romantic subtext and text happens after they become enemies. However also unlike Griffguts, H@nnigram is canonized at the end, and none of the het love interests last. Plus there’s no sexual assault.

Tbh I actually highly, highly recommend H@nnibal. It’s very weird and surreal with the most fun (imo) self-awarely pretentious bordering on campy tone, and 3 of the 4 main characters end up in same-sex romances. Also like, the Hannigram journey of ever-escalating subtext to absolutely incredible proportions until they finally just admit they’re in love is the most fun I’ve ever had watching a tv show ngl. And at only 3 seasons w/ 13 eps each it doesn’t take too long to get through.

vriska and terezi from homestuck are the
femslash hyper intense it’s complicated and our grief moves allegorical
mountains equivalent to griffguts that everyone whines about wanting
that being said
homestuck is literally a million words long and requires a good
appreciation of detail and meta to get into but its funny and enjoyable
you just have to chill out

oh yeah i’ve seen you mention them a lot in comparison

i
can’t lie i’m never gonna be able to get into homestuck but it’s good
to throw out there for anyone more able to read it than i am lol

madchen
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he can wear suits and slacks and stuff i just think it’s criminal that theres next to no griffith in dresses/skirt content bc hed look incredible wtf…
guts likes it be Thighs

strong agree

@yesgabsstuff said:
Omg lady cop Casca 

she would look so good in the uniform so i’m ok with this. also i think there’d be good potenital there for her to get disillusioned. corruption, maintaining of the status quo, etc.

madchen
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griffith wear knits and boots
high pony tail

occasional skirt

nice! also sorry i keep adding this stuff to your comments lol but i’m getting all invested in this nonexistent character arc of modern au griffith making peace w/ himself and dropping the conformity act and going full somewhat fem house husband

also speaking of hair now i’m thinking modern griffith w/ his long perfect hair as like, the one thing he just can’t bring himself to change to be more conventional and masc in whatever career path he’s taking.

madchen
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listen its the best option. he can work from home or whatever but let him soak up the feeling of being loved and needed and doing whatever just for himself bc he feels like it with no obligation to anyone else
like griffith would love being domestic r u kidding me

lol i feel like this is griffith’s idealized state of being but also the struggle it would take to reach it would be wild

@madchen said:
oh also griffith wants
guts to bridal style carry him when he’s real drunk and refuses to move
at all until guts picks him up he holds his arms outstretched
expectantly and everything 

lmao this is true and adorable

madchen
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wwww god i forgot how protective guts is of griffith. its so good and griff secretly loves it sm.

also yea to the wall lifting and arm wrestling
branching off of kink
whatever but it’s much easier to let yourself be taken care of when the
other person is much stronger and bigger than you and can basically wrap
himself all around you. big hugs.

yeah v true and like i think there’s def a part of griffith that’s v repressed that wants to just be taken care of and wrapped in big trustworthy arms

i’m sure i’ve said this b4 but honestly i think a big part of their relationship is about both of them wanting like the support/protection of the other. it’s more obvious w/ guts since griffith leaping into danger for him is a huge important plot thread, but it’s super true for griffith too and his need to have guts by his side “to the end.”