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mostly berserk meta. i'm into berserk mainly for griffguts and i'm a huge fan of griffith.




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tysm for the encouragement! i’m slowly but surely working on it.
This is the exact opposite of my opinion, up to and including the bit about the noses which are legit my favourite part of the character designs in the ovas lol.
but hey to each their own
i have posted 0 fics but i am in the process of writing multiple fics
I’ve got a couple short ones that I might even post soon, and a few medium length ones that I’m hoping to like, finish. It’s looking good at least like I’m over halfway done on some of them. I’ve got a finishing things problem, but I’ve been extra tenacious in the Berserk fandom for some reason so it’s promising.
oh i did make a vid one time if you’re interested in Berserk related creative endeavours in general, tho fair warning my song choice is ridiculous
a-girl-named-chester
replied to your audio post “Susumu Hirasawa – Berserk – GUTS Theme”
His theme, and the whole sounddrack is just fucking amazing. (I think it makes the anime, which otherwise made some interesting adaptation choices.)
yeah i totally agree tbh. maybe it’s partly nostalgia talking but i really love the anime’s tone despite some choices i disagree with, and the music is most of that imo lol
seisans
replied to your post “How do you think charlotte would react to neo griffith if she saw what…”
i’d say it depends on how she finds out. does she see it with her own eyes? does someone tell her? does GRIFFITH tell her? makes a big difference imo
oh yeah v true. I’ve actually thought about Griffith telling her a watered down version of events after Rickert showed up. Or he might’ve already mentioned some stuff back when he first rescued her, assuming she had a question or two about why he’s hanging out with monsters and can now perform miracles lol.
@griff-guts said: same lol charlotte (and characters in general) as representative of themes is My Shit
lol yeah I love that, and Berserk is great for this tbh
griff-guts
replied to your post “How do you think charlotte would react to neo griffith if she saw what…”
charlotte was a convenient plot point that allowed Griffith a quick trip to the throne via marriage, which would allow him to cruise on into being king without disrupting the royal structure or starting a revolution. Imo she doesnt have a firm characterization bc 1) miura sucks at writing compelling women and 2) her wishy-washy-ness and the fake superficial nature of her relationship with griff is a stark contrast to guts and griffs relationship – which id like 2 think is purposeful but lmao
that was a stupid and long reply but
basically charlotte is a cloaking example of how ppl view the image
griffith projected, and now neogriffith – thru rose coloured glasses and
as an idea or concept rather than a real person. to charlotte he’s her
knight in shining armour, to the falconians he’s a saviour, to the old
band of the hawk he was a way to a better life etc etc
also charlotte has a
habit of ignoring or running away from the bad things in life. if she
were to find out about the truth with griffith, would she even care?
what’s her other option? locking herself up in a tower like she did with
her father? I doubt learning griff is a “monster” would change much
about him in her eyes, she already knows he kills ppl and when he talked
about it in his friendship speech she was basically like “oh griffith
that’s so disturbing” and then got over it lol
Yeah I agree w/ most of this (I mean tbf I find some of the women Miura writes compelling, despite giant writing flaws, but Charlotte is not one of them lol)
Charlotte really is like the ur-example of how other people see Griffith without really knowing him. I suppose that’s probably why people want to see the scales fall from her eyes lol. Even back during the Golden Age, he was assassinating her family left and right and she had no idea. Personally I’d find it much more potentially interesting for Charlotte to learn that he killed her uncle, cousin, and stepmother, but I think that ship’s kind of sailed.
And yeah by now like… she’s happily accepted that Griffith hangs out with an army of monsters. I’m pretty sure she could learn exactly what happened during the Eclipse, and if NGriff gave a fuck about keeping her on as an ally/queen at that point he could like, literally just straightforwardly tell her what happened and Charlotte would be like, oh okay. ie: yeah I sacrificed my friends and became an evil demon for a while but now I’m back to human, yk like how the apostles used to eat people but now they help humanity. You know how it is with personified inner darknesses.
lol I feel like I have more to say on this subject wrt Charlotte being the epitome of seeing the image but not the person beneath vs what happens if she finds out, yk like thematically, but I’m about to go to work so I’ll end this here and maybe write more about it later if I think of something worthwhile.
this is a cop out but I honestly have no idea lol. Charlotte as a character, as far as I can tell, is uniformly weak and reticent except when she finds inner strength specifically through her feelings for Griffith lmao, so there’s no precedent for how she’d react if she learns about the Eclipse rape/Griffith being an evil demon in general. Surprisingly resilient and able to take action (even if only to leave) because she’s grown up a lot? Another 2 years of despondent moping? Who knows? Plus I can’t imagine how Miura would handle that subject, but I expect it would not be well.
So I’m just going to say Charlotte runs away with Anna. Hey she’s already been framed as a better alternative to Griffith once:

lol yeah that’s really funny if it is a coincidence, like, what are the odds?
2/2 And you probably already know this, but in roman history and
shakespeare’s julius caesar, casca was the soldier who stabbed caesar
first, and if you see griffith as caesar and guts as brutus, it makes me
wonder if casca will join guts in fighting griffith?)
I wonder about the relevance of her name, because it seems like the Eclipse rape (and presumably her subsequent insanity) wasn’t Miura’s original intention, since he’s mentioned that he originally didn’t plan to have Guts and Casca get together, and hooked them up for added Eclipse drama. So the portuguese connection might be coincidence. But who knows?
I could see the Julius Caesar reference being intentional for sure.
tbh tho my favourite Casca name connection is to the Casca the Eternal Mercenary series lol (I’ve heard it’s a Known Thing that Miura references names from old pulp fantasy books at least, so it’s maybe not totally out there?) I mean, the mercenary who stabbed Jesus is cursed to live as an immortal mercenary, which is like my ideal ending for Casca lmao, so I want to believe.
Either way I like that there are 2 possible connections to stabby soldiers.
lol same honestly. 200 chapters and only one rape threat way back in the conviction arc, imagine. Plus I love her day to day traveling clothes since joining Guts, like she doesn’t even have Casca style ridiculously tight fanservice pants. Like yeah she still gets occasional fanservice moments while bathing with Casca etc, and she definitely had her moments in the conviction arc, but Miura gets the Not As Big A Jerk As You Could Have Been award for her overall.
God it’s just the fucking worst isn’t it? And it’s so constant, both pre and post Eclipse, and so shitty, and often straight up tonally jarring lmao.
I actually recently wrote out a whole rant about how the depiction of Casca during the Eclipse isn’t just incredibly offensive but straight up objectively, qualitatively bad writing and bad art, but then I never posted it bc I got uncomfortably specific lol. But man, and it’s not just the Eclipse either, it’s everywhere.
Actually can I just (not cut for anything particularly triggering, just me going on a brief rant anyway lol. also tits)

imagine drawing this. You’re an artist and writer, you’re trying to depict a thematically resonant, significant moment that’s also very sad and emotionally touching, and this is how you choose to do it. Look at those metallic looking nipples. Do you think Miura even knows that nipples usually aren’t hard?
Why does he want the het male portion of his audience to be turned on during a sad moment that takes place after an attempted rape?
Or, conversely, why are so many men so awful that it doesn’t even occur to Miura or the majority of his audience that the image accompanying this sad text is inappropriately eroticized? That a mostly naked woman with those ridiculously (and kind of racistly lbr) bright, eye-catching nipples and gravity-defying tits actively fucks with the emotional tone you’re theoretically trying to convey? Because it’s just default to them: woman = naked and sexy as often as possible no matter what the context is.
Honestly it’s infuriating, and this example is nowhere near as fucked up as the Eclipse, or even the way Miura continues to eroticize Casca’s body when she’s traumatized and regressed to like mental infancy, etc.
xiyyh
replied to your post “yk tho as much as i theorize and hope wildly for a lot of stuff, at…”
standing ovation i wholeheartedly agree … i’d love to see theresia come back and rain hellfire too … (tho as much as i’d love that i feel like her rage was more of a parallel plot device that guts could relate with perhaps? and cracked his emotions open enough for readers to see he’s at odds with himself?) but damn would i love to see it … the women of berserk need loads of vengeance
Ty! And yeah I could see Theresia never coming back bc her purpose was served as a (really awesome imo) parallel to Guts that put his bullshit into perspective lol. But I’d still love to see badass vengeful Theresia.
But, when Golden Age ended, Griffith’s character became too prominent
and I wanted him to fight with Guts in his usual form.
Storytelling-wise, if he was in his normal, unchanged form, and then
changed into his powered-up form, the opposition would be easier to
understand. Also, setting-wise, as Femto, the dimension on which he
operates becomes more distant.
ok so I hate this, I’ve argued against reading the appearance of Femto at the end of the Millenium Falcon arc as an actual transformation a few times because I think it just straight up sounds stupid
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I’m willing to admit that despite framing Femto as a ~final form~ being silly to me, it actually works better for my purposes if it is a literal transformation. because it’s more easily comparable to the Beast of Darkness.
Like reading the appearance of Femto as just the way ascended Ganeshka sees him seems more natural and cool imo, but it also equates NeoGriffith and Femto in a way I’m meh about, and that was always the downside. If it’s a transformation, then Femto is like NGriff’s Beast of Darkness – a personified inner darkness made into a weapon that he can call up and use. Making Femto and NGriff kind of distinct, and backing up my idea that NeoGriffith is more like human Griffith rather than just Femto in a nicer outfit lol.
lmao fuck I really do vastly prefer this idea when you downplay the whole powered up form aspect and emphasize the comparison to Guts’ armour. Like, the Beast of Darkness is Guts’ Femto, that’s not subtle. If Guts loses himself to the armour, there’s gonna be more comparisons, and this could be a great part of that.
I mean lbr the only difference is that the armour doesn’t require a sacrifice to use and also it’s probs not as powerful as yk being a demon demi god. But it’s essentially a magical artifact created so that someone can use the power of their own dark side, the way apostles and the godhand in a more epic way can, without having to trade away a loved one first (/be ordained by causality). And the story has been very very clear about Guts’ dark side being v comparable to Griffith’s lol.
Like… the more I think about it the more I’m actually into this concept. Depending on how it plays out. I mean it still could just be as shallow and stupid as an upgrade for a fight. But yk, it has potential as part of a pattern of man vs inner monster, human volition vs bestial rage, etc, that we’ve been seeing a lot with Guts and various apostles, as well as hitting that equals theme.
Still can’t think of much worse than a drawn-out fight scene tho lol. I want to have faith in Miura’s ability to make things much better than they sound on paper, but there isn’t enough faith in the world for that.







sobadpink
replied to your post “yk tho as much as i theorize and hope wildly for a lot of stuff, at…”
Okay but please consider this: Theresia comes back and ends up being a huge endgame villain to Guts AND Griffith. Because she promised.
i would love that so much ngl. at the very least i really want to see her get some kind of hard earned revenge, and with the potential elfhelm timeskip in the works it’s possible we’ll see her as a badass adult at some point. I’ve got my fingers crossed hard
yk tho as much as i theorize and hope wildly for a lot of stuff, at the end of the day i think there are only 2 things i truly need from berserk:
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casca actively fucks shit up in a way that greatly affects the plot instead of getting back together with guts
2.
guts and griffith have an exchange of some sort that provides emotional
catharsis by addressing the fact that they were singularly obsessed with each other
and neither has actually successfully gotten over that obsession
i don’t give a shit about anything else. if those two things happen, I will consider berserk a satisfying story
xiyyh
replied to your post “hey if miura cut out the idea of evil chapter because it gave too much…”
ohhhhhhh … lovely, this is exciting …
i’m glad you think so lol
i’ve managed to convince myself that skull knight and danann are in shady cahoots and using guts and casca and now i jump on every possible piece of evidence for it tbh
i’ve got more theorizing along those lines here if you’re also into the idea, tho i keep waffling on a lot of the details lol
hey if miura cut out the idea of evil chapter because it gave too much away, is this

secretly ominous?
or not so secretly, considering it’s the page after this:


i’m hoarding every drop of ominous foreshadowing i can find rn, and flora asiding that god brought guts and his rpg group together right after she suspects skull knight is using them and skull knight excuses himself with “w/e fate’s gonna fate no matter what i do” seems kind of fittingly ominous
lol another anon mentioned this to me ages ago and it’s been on my playlist since, so you’re in good company.
sobadpink
replied to your post “sobadpink
replied to your post “griffith and guts were like 17/16…”
All good points, I was really just trying to base off assuming Casca and Guts where around the same age (in order to guess Griffith’s age) but yeah, a 15 year old would probably not consider an 18yr old “the same age” since like you said, 3 years is a lot to a teenager. Unless even at 18, because of his very fair and slim build, an 18yr old Griffith appears to be around 15yrs old?
Though I DO like the idea of Guts being the youngest of the 3!
Yeah I mean you could make an argument for it. Until there’s hard and fast canon it all comes down to personal preference, or just going with the ova ppl’s guesses/decisions. I was just laying out my reasoning for assuming Griffith is close to the same age as Guts bc I see people say Griffith is 3 years older all the time thanks to the wiki taking the ova behind the scenes info as fact, but yk, it’s all headcanon in the end.
sobadpink
replied to your post “griffith and guts were like 17/16 ish when they met right? modern au…”
Considering casca is supposed to be the same age as Guts, and she met Griffith when she was still young, and Griffith was old enough to not look off in armour, I would say Griffith is at least 3 years older than both of them
all the straightforward info we have on anyone’s age other than Guts, as far as I know, comes from the movie guides, which I think do say Casca is Guts’ age and Griffith is 3 years older. But I don’t think (and please correct me if I’m wrong or forgetting something) that’s stated in the manga anywhere.
Could be Miura signed off on it or suggested it himself, or it’s in the guidebook too or something, but I personally still wouldn’t consider it technically canon if it’s not in the manga. I mean I’m biased because I like the idea of G+G being about the same age. But also I have a rly hard time seeing Griffith as 18 before the 3 year time skip:

Especially w/ Guts thinking of him as just a kid, and about his age, etc. Three years is a p noticable age gap when you’re teenagers.
and Casca could also be around the same age, rather than younger than either imo. she says she was 12 when Griffith saved her (to me she looks younger than that, but w/e, canon says 12), and I could easily buy Griffith as around 12-13 in that scene just going off looks. He acts older, bc at this point he’s got more life experience, but honestly they both look like babies to me

I mean maybe it’s a stretch to think of a 12 yr old leading a group of bandits soon to be mercenaries, but enh child soldiers abound in Berserk, Rickert was a unit captain at about that age lol, and the other Hawks are also relatively young according to Guts so I can suspend my disbelief and accept it.
ugh tho i forgot about how meh a lot of that interview is, i shoulda stopped reading while i was ahead
i need to remember this (2017) quote every time i start to fear the possibility of guts and casca getting together and moving on just so griffith can go on the offensive and keep the plot going:
“I kept Casca alive precisely for that reason. That’s because even if she
died, and if the series continued for a long time, Guts’ reason to
seek revenge would become a thing of the past and if Guts formed new
relationships with people, his motivation would weaken. It’s a cold,
calculating move and it might feel unpleasant, but it’s exactly because
Guts has Casca at his side that he can never forget about the Eclipse.”
whatever happens w/ casca is gonna make guts go beast of darkness. miura is aware that guts needs to keep driving the plot forward and it can’t just stall out in elfhelm waiting for griffith to kickstart it again.
We know for a fact Guts was 15, Griffith was around the same age according to Guts’ guess.
Idk how high school grades/ages work lol but idc emphatic yes to guts and griffith going to prom as dates. i’ve got a real thing for the image of them awkwardly dancing together for some reason tbh so I immediately love this. Who do you think asks who? And are they friends first or do they start going out soon after they meet in this au?
a concept: guts in beast of darkness mode, seeing the world as nothing but like, malevolent shadows, except for neogriffith who is the only bright light in his world
similar to ascended ganeshka but with emotion rather than just themes behind it
conversely: neogriffith seeing the world as basically lines of fate and causality to be maneuvered within and around, except guts, the bright light who throws him off
tyvm! idk if I could do anything good with it but it would at least be a really fun song to practice with, and listening to it I immediately had a potential structure in mind which is always a good sign.
But also don’t sell yourself short! If you have the software it just takes practice. A lot of programs have a steep learning curve but once you get the hang of all the finnicky technical details everything else kind of follows ime. And honestly being able to picture a good video is like 75% of the battle imho lol.
ljlyall
replied to your post “madchen
replied to your post “I don’t know if you went into this…”
I always saw the kid as an allusion to the whole “Casca was pregnant before the eclipse and moon-child is actually Guts’”. Like it was a strange meta-hallucination without fully relying on any character knowledge. Not that I was thinking that deeply about it to begin with, that’s just kinda how my brain filled in the gaps
Hm, yeah that’s another interesting potential reading of the scene.
I just kind of shared my thoughts on it being Guts’ kid here so I’ll just link it to avoid repeating myself lol.
Tho wrt the idea that it’s a sort of meta hallucination, like a glimpse of a potential future informed by information Griffith himself doesn’t even have, idk it seems like a fair interpretation since there’s a lot of sinister magical things going on pre-eclipse. But idk if I’d consider it the most likely concept, so I wouldn’t default to that interpretation myself.
nico-jero
replied to your post “I don’t know if you went into this before but if so let me know. When…”
I had similar thoughts about that Griffith/Casca scene in the wagon. However, I remember reading the kid in the nightmare scene as Gut’s kid that he left with Casca.
Kind of like a hint to Casca’s pregnancy.
This also seems possible imo. Even if it’s just Griffith’s imagination he does know Guts and Casca have hooked up so he could also be just assuming her pregnancy in this imaginary scenario. Plus assuming the kid is Guts’ potentially highlights Guts’ absence even more.
But idk to me that scene has such a sort of… cloyingly domestic and kind of sinisterly sexual undertone to it, which seems especially significant after the scene in the wagon, that I lean towards the kid as another aspect of Griffith being trapped in this heterosexual nightmare. And I feel like Guts and Casca’s kid would have way darker hair.
But ultimately I could go either way. Both interpretations are depressing in their own ways lol.
griffith is a nerd and i love him