Guts only motivation for pursuing Griffith is his son that how I see it Casca will want her son as well. Berserk will have such a sad ending Miura did say he wanted a mellow ending with some happiness. Griffith to me seems like Lucifer not Satan, they’re two different entities.

Can’t agree with you there, sorry. As far as I’m aware Guts doesn’t even know there’s a connection between the demon fetus and NeoGriffith, and he never really gave much of a fuck about the fetus anyway iirc beyond being like, personally disturbed by its existence.

And we get a lot of information about Guts’ motivation for pursuing Griffith and it’s all about rage and betrayal and longing and emotional repression (and I would argue guilt), nothing there about the fetus.

Casca, maybe, who knows. She had more of a connection to the thing. She might be motivated by it. It’s as good a prediction as any.

Plz feel free to explain more about how Griffith is like Lucifer and not Satan and how they’re different, because all my knowledge of Christianity tells me they’re the same dude, so I can’t really respond to that assertion.

Griffith marriage with Charlotte isn’t going to be a fairytale as he will like the other royals feel insulted him leading the Midland Royal army. There’s going to be fractions against Griffith maybe the Tudors, also Charlotte drying is possible isn’t he in a campaign who’s watching over Charlotte ? Charlotte might stand out and find out about Griffith she will notice Griffith changed personality he isn’t charming as he was before, and that guy that helped him kill the Queen might ruin his plans.

He’s not currently doing any campaigning, he defeated Ganeshka pretty easily and now all his work seems to be taking in refugees, expanding Falconia, performing miracles so ppl can say goodbye to their loved ones, and having tea with the pope or w/e.

I do wonder about people who would resent Griffith for not being noble – they might provide some conflict, though I doubt there’s much they could actually do. And tbh I think Foss is actually a genuine believer now, personally, and probably a somewhat terrified one, but he’d also be an interesting thread to pick up again. I really want to see more from the perspectives of people who knew original Griffith.

I feel like for most of them this is actually kind of a natural progression – we saw people talking back in the Golden Age about how he was like a painting, how he was like a fairytale hero, we saw admiring peasants, etc. He won the war despite all odds so to have him reappear and save Midland from Ganeshka’s army fits everyone’s preconceptions of him. But there could still be some interesting stuff to be explored.

Tbh I’d love for Charlotte to gradually start to realize how non-genuine Griffith’s affections are (though I don’t think that’s changed between being human and being a god lol) or maybe sense a certain coldness or emptiness from him. I doubt it would happen soon though, and it might not happen at all – Charlotte didn’t exactly know him very well as a human, she idealized him herself quite a bit and NeoGriffith’s image of perfection probably fits her expectations.

Idk what I’d love to see is like, suggestive conversations and little reminders that NeoGriffith isn’t quite the same as Original Griffith, and that he’s very singular and therefore very alone. We got Rickert, now I want more. Like let’s see Owen asking after Guts the way he asked Guts about Griffith. Or let’s see what Griffith does in his spare time, or what the nobles say about him and the rumours that he was a traitor a few years ago. I like outsider perspectives a lot and I think there’s a lot of good potential there.

chaoticgaygriffith:

femto being the antichrist would actually be really interesting … the god hand executes the will of god, and the antichrist is someone who goes against the will of god

like i said we don’t know what makes femto & neo-griff different which makes things interesting, is it a duality or are his intentions the same no matter what?

either way if griffith turns out to be the antichrist at any point this would basically mean griffith turning against the god hand (highly theorised and anticipated) and Possibly also against god itself, and the only reason i could see him doing that is … well call me biased but, guts, again

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ok last thing i’ll say. people want griffith to be the very manifestation of pure evil so bad that they’re deliberately miainterpreting the story to fit that view. but if griffith, as he is now, is a manifestation of anything, it’s humanity’s desires. if you have beef with griffith’s actions, take it up with god, created by humans themselves. take it up with fate and prophecy. if you have beef with stories that show how cruel and stupid humanity can be, take it up with miura. griffith has divine right and he is bringing humanity’s desires into existence

like are they stupid desires? quite possibly. does humanity actually want what they wished for? that remains to be seen. but right now it is what it is

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so @seisans birthday was somewhat recently and i meant to draw this much sooner for him!!! bc i love him!!!! so HAPPY (late) BIRTHDAY NEV!! i still don’t know anything about berserk..

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OH MY GOD IM DYING HES PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIS HAIR AND HIS LIL FACE AND!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIS NOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SCREAMS

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btw you don’t. need to know anything about berserk. this is fine. things are fine .. the way they are.

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the fact that he’s remembering the very first moment we saw them together when we know guts thought of him as “beautiful, noble, and larger than life,” where griffith said, “i’ve never spoken to anyone like this,” is killer tbh. thinking about that early moment of vulnerability, wondering if guts has been hating/resenting him all this time.

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please, I’m dying, just finish yer fucking sentence guts

also after what happens with casca, which is so much like two mourning friends comforting each other (and despite being unable to see romantic love there at all, made me like them more? actually, not despite, probably because I can’t see it as romantic love. they both belong to griffith in their own ways) this hit me really hard– even though I’d read these panels out of context before, this whole section of the narrative is amazing. guts is ALMOST having a realisation here about griffith, or is having one. is he realising how human griffith is and some of how he’d relied on guts? and that leads to: IF THAT’S THE CASE… THEN I… !!

if you don’t think guts absolutely loves griffith, idk what to say

i definitely think this is guts beginning to realize that he shouldn’t’ve left and he was wrong about griffith looking down on him

which just reinforces that guts didn’t leave because he particularly wanted to find a dream, he left bc he wanted griffith to love him and he thought that was the only way. but whoops, turns out he already did and the proof is the fact that they’re on a rescue mission right now.

yk, i always think of guts as being the only member of the hawks who was recruited without a choice in the matter. the only one who didn’t choose to follow griffith but instead got won in a duel. i was even about to write some meta on it and what it says about griffith and how he forgets his dream when guts is involved (because it’s important to him that every one of the hawks chooses to follow him of their own volition, it’s how he maintains his denial of guilt). but i sat down to start writing it and i was like, wait a sec.

bc the thing is, the duel was all guts.

griffith said he wanted guts to join him, seemed taken aback when guts refused out of hand, and that’s it.

guts is the one who went hey i know let’s fight again and if i lose i’ll fight for you or we’ll fuck or whatever

like, i think griffith just leapt at the chance to keep guts around another way, i don’t think he would’ve made that suggestion himself, or kidnapped him if guts didn’t suggest it or w/e. guts probably could’ve just went ‘uh thanks for not letting me die i guess, see ya’ and griffith probably would’ve sighed and let him leave if more sweet talking didn’t work.

instead guts went ‘we’re enemies, i want to fight you again, here are the stakes,’ and griffith was like, ‘fuck yeah i’m in’

idek i’ve read this scene a million times idg why i always think of griffith as the instigator when he’s textually not. maybe bc once guts brings up the idea griffith is so hugely into it lol with his ‘i must obtain the things i desire’ and reiterating that guts belongs to him etc.

but guts did have a choice. he chose to fight griffith and he chose the stakes of the duel.

Was skullknight a Godhand member because if you look at his sword it looks like the Behelit shaped as a sword. There’s speculations that Griffith will reign for 200 years then become like Zodd later on, I don’t know how to feel about that. In the end Griffith is being used by the idea of Evil I heard someone said he’s a good guy but they forget what he did to the band of the hawk and Casca. I’m an atheist, but Griffith is evil saying he’s Lucifer and that he’s good in the end rolls 👀.

lol I actually theorize that he was a former Godhand, though without any real evidence other than the timeline we’re given. (I think he somehow made his reality warping sword by eating behelits lol.) My theory is that he was the last incarnated Godhand member pre-Griffith, since one supposedly incarnates once every thousand years and Gaiseric’s Falconia 1.0 empire was a thing 1000 years ago. Plus Guts comparing him to Griffith was a solid “hmmm” moment, and the fact that he’s also compared to Guts now (witch friend, possible revenge quest, armour) is more interesting to me if he was the world’s previous “Griffith.”

Never heard those speculations, why 200 years? And like Zodd how? Monstrous, or roaming battle fields, or bloodlusty, or what? Seems like an odd theory since Zodd is just an apostle and Griffith is a god. (Unless you mean become like Skull Knight, in which case I could get behind that theory.)

And I’m not gonna lie, I’m 100% a Griffith fan and I’ll absolutely argue that he wasn’t at all evil pre-rebirth into Femto. Like, the Godhand ultimately convinced him to make the sacrifice not through offers of power or rejuvenation but by guilt-tripping him about all the people who died for his dream. Human Griff ain’t evil, he’s just got stupid (tho imo v understandable) priorities.

After he became Femto, I’d say he’s like, literally evil, in that he’s literally described as being made up of the same evil/dark/negative aspects of humanity that the Idea of Evil is. And NeoGriffith is a mysterious wildcard as far as I can tell, I have no idea if he’s yet another aspect of humanity brought to the forefront, the way Griffith was all human and Femto was humanity’s darkness, or if he’s just Femto with a flesh suit on, or what, so I’m just waiting on more reveals before making up my mind on him.

But I don’t think he’s Satan, or an anti-christ. I think he’s a Christ figure in a world whose God is a manifestation of humanity’s dark side. Yk, if that’s a difference worth distinguishing lol.

Godhand and the Cenobites Hellraiser are the same I wonder if Griffith’s Femto is going to oppose them all or they fight Guts if he join so since Slan seems to want him so badly to join? I don’t know if this sounds stupid, but do you think NeoGriffith will disagree with Femto is it alter ego, I’m reading Berserk for the 2 times and he’s not easy to figure out. Griffith is a tornado in a glass of water ready to burst he’s constantly fighting his own demon (Femto) is he the one repressing him.

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kissing-monsters:

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I feel like I remember seeing confirmation that Miura was inspired by Hellraiser, tho it could’ve just been speculation I guess, but either way yeah big similarities there lol.

tbh I think we’re supposed to think the possibility exists for Guts to become an apostle, but not a Godhand, since a new member only joins up once every 200 something years. But I personally don’t think it’s going to happen.

But Femto/NeoGriff opposing the rest of the Godhand, now that’s something I think is a possibility. Void is sketchy as fuck, he seems to know more than the rest of the Godhand, and he’s got ultimate big bad written all over him. Plus Miura hinted that he’s going to be really relevant. Add in the fact that theoretically there must’ve been 5 other Godhand members 1000 years ago (since one of them can only incarnate every 1000 years, and this must’ve happened more than once to be a recognized cycle) so Godhands don’t last forever, and ngl I do wonder if there’s going to be a conflict between NeoGriff and the Godhand.

And that’s not a stupid question. Like, I don’t think Femto and NeoGriff are in conflict, but I absolutely wonder if NeoGriff has some inner conflict going on with his reawakened emotions, whatever they are. So if that’s the case I wouldn’t really describe that as NeoGriffith vs Femto so much as the last vestiges of human Griffith vs Femto/NeoGriff, but hey that’s just semantics, no one knows wtf is going on with NeoGriff internally or whether he’s distinct from Femto, etc. So I guess “maybe” is my actual answer to that, haha.

Thanks for the ask, idk there’s lots to think and wonder about. I can’t wait til Miura starts actually like, revealing stuff and getting the plot going again lol.

As much as canonically I’d not enjoy Guts as an apostle, fanfictionally I’d be all the fuck over that (AND he’d be EVEN MORE focussed on Griffith oh delicious).

this is the thing that gets me about apostle guts:

a story where guts became an apostle and neogriffith’s feelings can all actually be blamed on the fetus would be a story about two dudes in love, who both became monsters to escape their self-destructive feelings for each other, and through wacky happenstance ended up magically compelled to love each other anyway

and honestly i’d read tf out of it

that’s literally so fucking good I’d be scared to write it

I’ll just add: Miura was clearly inspired by many sci fi works. Hellraiser, Slan, Ubik, …And Call Me Conrad, Destination: Void … I don’t know if he ever confirmed it in an interview, but it’s more than obvious at this point.

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replied to your photo “kissing-monsters: look most of the time a sword is just a sword, but…”

@bthump I can’t copy your tags on mobile to reply but omg you could write literally a novel on the subject of phallic symbols in berserk holy shit (I’d read it)

lol honestly there’s so much material. and when you’re talking about a story where the main character gives a goddess an orgasm by stabbing her with his giant sword i feel like everything is fair game

And it’s like, I get it, Guts basically is his sword and the text that it’s “part of him” is mentioned 45 times but even when you go so okay that’s the subtext

That subtext just lends itself to further IT’S HIS DICK readings

Also TBH I’ll never get over when he’s alone on the roof and swears himself to griffith– it’s the way he’s holding the sword. I literally laughed at that when I watched the anime tje first time because holy shit. Miura must know what he’s doing. He must??

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Godhand and the Cenobites Hellraiser are the same I wonder if Griffith’s Femto is going to oppose them all or they fight Guts if he join so since Slan seems to want him so badly to join? I don’t know if this sounds stupid, but do you think NeoGriffith will disagree with Femto is it alter ego, I’m reading Berserk for the 2 times and he’s not easy to figure out. Griffith is a tornado in a glass of water ready to burst he’s constantly fighting his own demon (Femto) is he the one repressing him.

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I feel like I remember seeing confirmation that Miura was inspired by Hellraiser, tho it could’ve just been speculation I guess, but either way yeah big similarities there lol.

tbh I think we’re supposed to think the possibility exists for Guts to become an apostle, but not a Godhand, since a new member only joins up once every 200 something years. But I personally don’t think it’s going to happen.

But Femto/NeoGriff opposing the rest of the Godhand, now that’s something I think is a possibility. Void is sketchy as fuck, he seems to know more than the rest of the Godhand, and he’s got ultimate big bad written all over him. Plus Miura hinted that he’s going to be really relevant. Add in the fact that theoretically there must’ve been 5 other Godhand members 1000 years ago (since one of them can only incarnate every 1000 years, and this must’ve happened more than once to be a recognized cycle) so Godhands don’t last forever, and ngl I do wonder if there’s going to be a conflict between NeoGriff and the Godhand.

And that’s not a stupid question. Like, I don’t think Femto and NeoGriff are in conflict, but I absolutely wonder if NeoGriff has some inner conflict going on with his reawakened emotions, whatever they are. So if that’s the case I wouldn’t really describe that as NeoGriffith vs Femto so much as the last vestiges of human Griffith vs Femto/NeoGriff, but hey that’s just semantics, no one knows wtf is going on with NeoGriff internally or whether he’s distinct from Femto, etc. So I guess “maybe” is my actual answer to that, haha.

Thanks for the ask, idk there’s lots to think and wonder about. I can’t wait til Miura starts actually like, revealing stuff and getting the plot going again lol.

As much as canonically I’d not enjoy Guts as an apostle, fanfictionally I’d be all the fuck over that (AND he’d be EVEN MORE focussed on Griffith oh delicious).

this is the thing that gets me about apostle guts:

a story where guts became an apostle and neogriffith’s feelings can all actually be blamed on the fetus would be a story about two dudes in love, who both became monsters to escape their self-destructive feelings for each other, and through wacky happenstance ended up magically compelled to love each other anyway

and honestly i’d read tf out of it