nothing of importance to add i just wanted to say that i was washing the dishes today while thinking of your meta when i had a random flashback of casca saying ‘you’ve bled so much for me blah blah’ at guts and she was moved because of that because it was proof he cared, and like i remember guts before leaving griffith saying ”this is better than just saying goodbye because it means that for you i’m still worth shedding blood for” or something along these lines!

omg I didn’t even think of this possible connection, nice!

I remember a little while ago I discussed scars and wounds etc with @therainykitty as a somewhat sexual thing with comparing the Casca scene to a few things including “the wound Griffith left, because you want to keep feeling that pain he caused you,” here, but this is another potential application of that, and tbh it makes a lot of sense to me.

Thank you!

babygriffith:

babygriffith:

寝るの?
夢を見るの?
グリフィスの夢を

ねぇ どうして?
なぜあいつを追わないの?
やっと会えたんじゃない
もう少しじゃない 行こうよ あいつのところへ

鉄塊をくれてやろうよ

この女がいるから?
放っておこうよ
そんなに大切なの?

グリフィスよりも?

もうこの女はお前の知っている戦士なんかじゃない
ただの残骸 別人だ
それなのに大切なの?

思い続けることができるの?
この女を 今も
この女  の・み  で

グリフィスが残した傷口だから
グリフィスの残した痛みを感じ続けていたいから大切なんじゃないの?

この女はグリフィスを渇望(こがれ)続けるための生贄さ

消えろ・・・・・・

生贄ならもっといい使い道がある

ほら こうしてしまえば
もっと深く深くグリフィスと繋がる

やめろォォ

お前は望んでいる

Do you sleep?
Do you dream?
Dreams of him?

Why is it?
Why don’t you chase him?
You finally met with him.
Just a little farther. Let’s go to him.

Let’s give him a heap of raw iron.

Because of this woman here?
Leave her be.
Is she that precious?

More so than Griffith?

She’s no longer the warrior you knew.
Just a husk. Someone else.
And yet she’s precious?

You can continue thinking of her?
Of this woman, even now?
Of her alone?

Is she not precious only because she’s the wound Griffith left,
because you want to keep feeling that pain he caused you?

She’s a sacrifice so you can continue longing for Griffith.

Go away …

If she’s a sacrifice, there’s a better use for her.

If you just do this
you’ll get closer and closer to Griffith.

Stop iiit!

You desire this.

these pages were requested by the beloved @bthump

i have some … thoughts, so let’s go through this in order.

  1. this is nitpicky, but i can’t believe they translated 

    寝るの? as “do you sleep?” i mean sure, i guess, but the hound is clearly asking him if he’s gonna sleep. i guess they wanted to make it sound more dramatic.

  2. also nitpicky, but even though there’s no desiderative in なぜあいつを追わないの? i personally would have translated it as “why won’t you chase (after) him?” i feel like in the original there is no suggestion to chase griffith that can be felt in “why don’t you chase him?” instead, it’s like chasing griffith is a given and the hound is (childishly) confused about why guts isn’t doing it. that’s how it feels to me, anyway. i could be wrong, i’m still learning + i have no experience as a translator, but yeah.
  3. i’d just like to point out that in やっと会えたんじゃない, the verb 会う is in potential form. so it’s leaning towards “you finally got to (managed to, got a chance to etc.) meet with him”
  4. もう少しじゃない was translated as “Just a little farther,” which i understand, but you should know that the original says “isn’t it just a little farther,” as in, isn’t he just outside your reach, isn’t he right in front of our eyes, let’s go to him, why won’t you? again, i’m not a native or even fluent speaker of japanese, but i’m almost certain this is a really childish way of speaking, which really says it all i think.
  5. we’re getting into “who cares” territory but この女がいるから? literally means something like “because this woman is here?” and … idk why i feel like that’s relevant, i think it maaaybe emphasises the feeling of her getting in the way? but yeah, do with that what you will.
  6. 放っておこうよ → “Leave her be” is of course accurate, but i wish there was a better translation for the nuances of this expression as used in this context, because the one they went with sounds a bit more like, you know, “give her some peace,” whereas i feel like what the hound was saying is closer to basically telling guts to abandon her. you know what i mean? “just leave her,” something like that.
  7. it’s a little hard to read some more complicated kanji with the quality of these images, but if the original really does say 残骸, then “shell” is a clever translation, but basically, the meaning of that word is like … something that’s been destroyed to the point of uselessness. google says even a corpse that was thrown away. dictionaries say “debris” “wreckage” “ruins.”
  8. i think 傷口 is specifically like the “opening” of a wound. google says, “Metaphorically, past mistakes and weak points that you do not want people to touch.” which, duh.
  9. グリフィスの残した痛み 

    → this is, again, the pain that he left. “caused” is very much a one moment thing, like griffith hurt guts in the past and now guts wants to go back to that feeling. but the original implies that the pain is constant, and what’s more, guts doesn’t want to stop feeling it.

  10. we’ve reached the meat of this post. the actual thing bthump asked me about. 「この女はグリフィスを渇望(こがれ)続けるための生贄さ」
    so you know how in manga authors like to use kanji for one thing but then add furigana for another, in order to create layered meanings? that’s what’s happening here, and boy is it layered. 渇望 (read as katsubou) is “craving,” “longing,” “thirsting.” google says “to desire from the heart, the way someone who is thirsty wishes for water. to long for*.” but furigana says こがれ (from the verb 焦がれる). the dictionary definition of this word is literally “to yearn for” “to be in love with.” google says “to earnestly hope for. to yearn for and fret.” bear in mind this “yearn for” is 恋い慕う = to love + to pine for. basically, these are some pretty charged words, which is why i pulled up all these various definitions, since i can’t feel all the connotations of various japanese expressions.
    (*this ”to long for” is, again, just the dictionary translation of that synonymous expression (待ちこがれる), but i looked for a japanese definition and it says “to keep waiting and waiting and feel restless”)
  11. excuse me? “you’ll get closer and closer to Griffith” doesn’t even cover もっと深く深くグリフィスと繋がる
    深い = “deep”, but also “close,” sometimes “strong/intense.” 
    繋がる = you know this word. “to be tied/linked together.” i think anime translators often use the word “bond.” it’s not just about getting closer to griffith, it’s about them getting tied closer and closer together, being more and more deeply connected to each other. there’s no happy solution in terms of translating, but this is definitely one of those lines that need translation notes.
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lol I don’t have anything to add but this is some Good Shit.

babygriffith:

again per @bthump‘s request, we compare griffith’s “If I can’t have him I don’t care” with also griffith’s “That you, rather to have been with princess Charlotte, would have had her yourself?”

first, the duel.

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もし剣の接触する瞬間 やつの剣圧でオレの剣の軌道がわずかでもぶれたなら・・・・・・
本当に 殺してしまうことも・・・・・・!!

・・・・・・・・・・・・それでも
手に入らないのならそれでも・・・!!

かまわない!!

If in the instant our swords meet, the pressure from his alters the arc of mine even just a little …
… I might really kill him!!

Even then …
If I can’t have him …!!

I don’t care!!

here, the expression used is 手に入る, literally meaning “to enter someone’s hand,” with the actual meaning being “to obtain” “to get hold of” “to get one’s hands on.” i would have to check if it’s generally used for objects or people or both, but yeah.

another thing possibly of note is that there’s also 手に入れる (”to put into one’s own hand”) with pretty much the same meaning when translated into english–but clearly there are differences. for example, if something “entered your hand,” you didn’t do anything to obtain it, it just found its way there. likewise, if you “put something into your hand,” you did something to obtain it, you went out and got it for yourself.

bear with me though. there’s an issue here, and that is that when it comes to transitive/intransitive pairs of verbs (such as 入れる /

入る), in certain situations japanese speakers have a tendency to use the intransitive verb where speakers of other languages would more naturally use the transitive verb. for example, instead of asking “have you found your keys?” (mitsukeru, to find – transitive) they’ll ask, “have the keys been found?” (mitsukaru, to be found – intransitive). and i’m still not sure what the rules/patterns are here, really.

this means that i don’t know for sure if griffith using 手に入る instead of 手に入れる has any real semantic significance. but even if it really doesn’t, i still think it’s fitting, and interesting, since, as griffith understands it, guts is the one who won’t readily enter griffith’s grasp anymore (in fact, he wants to leave it: オレの手の中から出ていきたいのか!?)

and while we’re on the topic of grasps, if you’ll allow me to go on yet another tangent here,

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いつからだろう 手に入れたはずのあいつが
逆にこんなにも強くオレを掌握してしまったのは

How long ago did someone I was supposed to have in hand
instead gain such a strong hold on me?

(i’ll talk more about this scene some other time)

now for the dungeon scene with the king.

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それならば・・・・・・・・・・・・
それならば、いっそ・・・・・・

いっそ・・・
私が・・・

抱きたいのですか?
シャルロット様を・・・・・・
いや・・・

あなたが・・・
抱・い・て・ほ・し・い・ のでは?

I’d rather …
… rather that …

… That you … 
rather …

to have been with princess Charlotte …
would have had her yourself?
No …

Don’t you …
want her to have you?

here, the verb used is 抱く, which can mean “to hold/embrace” literally or in the sense of “making love.” according to my dictionary, it can also mean “to have” (e.g. ambition) but i don’t … know what else you can “have” like that (people??).

my guess would be that griffith is basically saying “you wanted to hold her … no … you wanted to be held by her,” but since the king was talking about griffith having taken her virginity before griffith said this, it makes sense to translate it as “to have her,” as in, “to have her first.”

sadly though that means there’s a parallel in english that isn’t there in the original japanese, but i still think your overall reading of this scene is accurate.

Thank you so much! This is only mildly disappointing lol, the similar wording in the english translation was one of those things I referred to in some earlier post where I’d written the entire section beforehand and only noticed something seemingly obvious w/ the wording afterwards, so I tacked it on. I think the parallel stands up fine without it.

Nice nice nice wrt the connection to “how long ago did someone I was supposed to have in hand,” tho. i’m looking forward to your further thoughts on that someday!

undecimber-of-joy
replied to your post “The Brightest Thing – A Griffith Analysis”

I had a relatively busy day at the office but I couldn’t resist starting on this, and then I kept getting distracted in between work and taking short breaks, reading part after part and internally yelling. SO GOOD.
I’ll probably go back to reread it and leave comments if I can even /think/ coherently jdkdmdm.
Excellent work!

aaaaaaa thank you so much!! I’m v glad it entertained you during work ❤ I’d absolutely love to read any comments you think of/feel like writing, but no pressure or anything 🙂

@a-girl-named-chester said:

Uhhhhhg why couldn’t
they have just communicated with each other?? This meta has me really
intrigued and hopeful (though not overly optimistic) again that the
endgame is SOME sort of resolution of this intense dynamic they have. It
was a pleasure and a painful thing to read. Great job 

Right??? why couldn’t they have just communicated with each other could be the tagline of Berserk lol. And I’m also hopeful that this is all going to come back at some point, maybe soon. At the very least I really, really want both Guts and Griffith to finally realize what actually happened between them lol, and that their feelings had been mutual love the whole time. Like, that’s a revelation that has to happen, right? Thank you so much for the feedback, I’m v glad you enjoyed reading it!

The Brightest Thing – A Griffith Analysis

bthump:

Part Four – Griffith’s no good without you

Part One
Part Two
Part Three

In the fourth and final part of this exploration of the tug of war between Griffith’s dream and his love for Guts, I’m going to look at how Griffith ultimately ends up choosing the dream over Guts despite the fact that Guts is more important to him – or, more accurately, because Guts is more important.

I’m starting by diving right into what is, hands down, my favourite part of Berserk.

Keep reading

friendly reminder to myself: licking wounds

guts and casca were never about healing each other or bettering each other, it’s in the damn chapter title

yk whose relationship is about mutual betterment and support? casca and farnese t b q h

also wrt relationships being generally healthier than other coping mechanisms in berserk, i think i might actually be selling miura short on that bc i think his take is more nuanced. look at serpico and farnese – they had an extremely intense relationship that wasn’t… bad necessarily, but it is absolutely a good thing that they’re both forging other relationships and not just relying on each other for comfort and protection from the world. so it’s not like all relationships are automatically great, and saying one of the major themes of berserk is that relationships are better than swords is still true, but maybe overly simplified

i still think the entire point of griffith and guts’ story though is that they could’ve been perfect for each other but they fucked it up

bthump:

ALSO! Speaking of swords as ways of shielding your heart and refusing to deal with your issues, and relationships as ways of opening your heart and helping one another heal, and related sword imagery, how about the way Guts and Griffith both lose their swords during their first duel and finish it with bare hands?

Especially compared to the second duel where only their swords collide, and Guts’ stops before it even touches Griffith’s shoulder.

fuck and i wrote that bit about shoulder touching as a sign of Griffith’s emotional weakness bc he’s in love with Guts and didn’t connect it to where Guts’ sword pointedly didn’t land (or… possibly did gently land actually, but either way it’s important that it’s his sword, not his hand).

but there, now i’m connecting it.

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ALSO! Speaking of swords as ways of shielding your heart and refusing to deal with your issues, and relationships as ways of opening your heart and helping one another heal, and related sword imagery, how about the way Guts and Griffith both lose their swords during their first duel and finish it with bare hands?

Especially compared to the second duel where only their swords collide, and Guts’ stops before it even touches Griffith’s shoulder.

madchen
replied to your post “madchen
replied to your post “i want to like, write a longish meta…”

i was thinking in line of “swinging his sword is an u healthy coping mechanism and way to avoid confronting his true feelings and casca being called one here incites comparison to that, casca weaponizing herself aside”

yeah i think ultimately that’s what it is for the most part. even now, his journey to take casca to elfhelm and get her healed has had ominious forboding overtones and imo guts like… metaphorically chaining the beast up in his subconscious is reminiscent of avoiding his issues thru this side quest, rather than confronting and dealing with them.

like his rpg group is a positive influence and this is undoubtedly better than his black swordsman rampage, but like… he’s still closed off from them, still doesn’t talk about his past or only v dispassionately when questioned by warlocks lol, etc. saving casca (and sleeping with her way back when) isn’t so much helping him deal with his problems as it’s helping him avoid them.

just like telling casca about gambino and donovan was a positive thing and a step in the right direction, but not an instant fix.

madchen
replied to your post “i want to like, write a longish meta about how guts’ “dream” ie his…”

and yea swords have always represented male power to a phallic degree even pre freudian analysis framework (broken swords symbolize impotence on the flip side) but the visualzzzz in berserk especially in the golden age is good. like griffs sword breaking and then guts shattering later at the eclipse. or the uh unfortunate realization that guts symbolically “castrating griffith” is both metaphorical and probably literal foreshadowing to what happens to griff a few chapters later.

yeah v v true, and ngl along the same lines i have a few (less than positive) Thoughts on Guts holding a broken sword while Femto rapes Casca.

@griff-guts said: oh mannnnn there’s a lot to say about
the broken sword thing lmao i might write a post about it….. same with
guts and griff symbols being a hawk (or white bird in general lol) and a
dog because there’s a LOT of medieval shit to do with that too…..
anyway for the sword thing a sword being broken basically amounts to an
“oh shit” moment where the person loses all ability to control their
situation, and acts of desperation ensue. it has a lot to do with fate
and human control being

ultimately helpless up against fate.

ohhh man I’d love to read a whole post on this sometime! this all seems extremely in line with Berserk and lol I kind of regret never taking any literature classes more advanced than 101 in uni.

madchen
replied to your post “i want to like, write a longish meta about how guts’ “dream” ie his…”

oh i like this take i think its something ive and most readers have been aware of but no ones said it yet. brings another perspective to the “boy and an oversized sword” thing at the end of the gutsca chapter ouch.

ooh good point.

lol for a sec i was like, ‘uh oh wait does that mean miura was actually trying to say that a relationship with casca could replace guts’ emotional reliance on his sword?’ then i remembered the context of their relationship, the fact that casca becoming a sword for other people is a negative way of dealing with her own shit, the way guts emphatically does not start prioritizing casca over swinging his sword as we soon see when he shoos her away to fight wyald by himself, etc, and yeah.

the sword comparison overall feels more in line with saying a relationship casca is a form of emotional support, like swinging his sword, rather than better or more fulfilling than swinging his sword.

griff-guts
replied to your post “i want to like, write a longish meta about how guts’ “dream” ie his…”

also the motif of broken swords/swords being worn blunt is a really interesting one that i don’t see many people talking about, especially if you look at the theme in relation to arthurian/medieval ideas about swords and what they represent… griffiths sword breaking when guts left is especially interesting to me tbh.

oh man you’re right that all the broken swords get more interesting when paired w/ the theme of like, swinging a sword to cope lol. ngl I kind of get stuck on phallic symbols when it comes to broken swords but there’s more to it than that.

+ do you feel up to elaborating on arthurian ideas about what swords represent? because I know nothing about this stuff and I’m v intrigued.

i want to like, write a longish meta about how guts’ “dream” ie his attachment to fighting/his sword is a coping mechanism to deal with his traumatic childhood and then every traumatic event since then but like

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is that really something that requires an argument behind it

Casca feeling angry and sad about what happened to her is very understandable and “No duh”! But some part of me remembers that she is a very prideful woman. How would she feel that she didn’t have the willpower to overcome her trauma and needed magic to become “normal”. How she regressed into eternal childhood. People in real life call her a “Potato”, why wouldn’t other people in the Berserk universe not see her that? It may not be easy for some people to accept her as someone who isn’t broken.

uggggh god I hate berserk fans, the people you’re referencing are so gross and offensive re Casca.

But I mean they are worse than literally every other non-antagonist character who has ever interacted with Casca, aside from Guts, so when you say “why wouldn’t other people in the Berserk universe not see her like that?” my answer I guess is, well, surprisingly Berserk characters are less shitty in some respects than Berserk fans lol.

Farnese lost her patience once and then immediately and respectfully apologized, and everyone else just kind of casually accepts her presence and helps protect her. Guts is clearly the worst to her, and not just the sexual assault but also dragging her around on a leash and viewing her as a lesser version of her old self and a reminder of the old days moreso than a person in her own right, but once he got a caretaker he removed himself from the situation as much as possible at least.

Though I don’t get the impression that Miura is going to condemn Guts for anything more than the sexual assault, and I even have some doubts about that :////

As for how Casca thinks of herself and her time regressed, tbh idk if I’d want Miura to explore this because I don’t think he’s capable of enough nuance and thoughtfulness to write Casca feeling ashamed of being traumatized/regressed and not fuck it up lol. That’s like a minefield of ableism and I’d prefer it if Miura just bypassed it entirely. I could see it being in character, she is prideful and she does have a complicated relationship with needing to be rescued, but I could also see Casca being angry that they healed her prematurely too, or any number of other reactions. I’d like to see her angry at Guts for treating her so belittlingly tbh, but after seeing dog guts in her mind idk that seems like a vain hope.

And re: your last bit, idk I don’t really see who in the rpg group would
have a hard time accepting her now that she’s healed. Everyone’s been consistently all in favour of the Elfhelm
heal Casca journey. I could see the group having to adjust to the change, and/or I could see Casca herself starting some conflict,
depending on her reaction to her trauma now that she’s awake (i mean if
she ended up anything like say post-Eclipse Guts, she could be really
dark and interesting and sow lots of intriguing discord), but I wouldn’t
describe that as people not accepting her as someone who isn’t broken
so much as Casca maybe being some degree of difficult to deal with as a
traumatized person in Berserk where reactions to trauma tend to be on a scale from dark to apocalyptic.

babygriffith:

babygriffith:

答えて

ぞ・・・ぞうでずぅ・・・

よーーーし
それじゃ あんたらのボスに 言伝 頼まれてくれないかな?

な゛・・・・・・なんでじょう・・・・・・・・・?

Answer me.

Yes … sir …

All right, then I suppose you can deliver a message to your boss for me?

Wha- What message?

you can see it in the translation too, but guts is being sweet and polite here, using 答えて(くれ)and 頼まれてくれない in place of just your regular old impolite imperative which he normally defaults to

The Brightest Thing – A Griffith Analysis

Part Four – Griffith’s no good without you

Part One
Part Two
Part Three

In the fourth and final part of this exploration of the tug of war between Griffith’s dream and his love for Guts, I’m going to look at how Griffith ultimately ends up choosing the dream over Guts despite the fact that Guts is more important to him – or, more accurately, because Guts is more important.

I’m starting by diving right into what is, hands down, my favourite part of Berserk.

The small battles we fought on the cobblestone when we were still young. The small victories we achieved. The many sparkling junk spoils we plundered.

In the evening… staring up from the back alley of brothels and taverns, where the sun never shines, I saw something. Shimmering against the setting sun, it was the brightest thing I had ever seen.

I made up my mind. The junk I would get for myself… would be that thing.

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Darkness.

Deep darkness without even a trace of light.

How much time has passed since I was cast into this darkness…?

An eternity… but it also seems like an instant… All my senses are numbed and I can’t feel a thing. What of my body? It’s like it’s floating in mid-air. Have I retained my sanity? Did I go insane long ago?

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Only him.

Like lightning on a dark night, he rises up within me, blazing. And again and again like a tidal wave, an infinite number of feelings surge upon me. Malice, friendship, jealousy, futility, regret, tenderness, sorrow, pain, hunger… So many recurring, yearning feelings. That giant swirl of violent emotions in which none are definite but all are implied. That alone is the bond which keeps my consciousness from vanishing amidst the numbness.

I know that I’m different from other people. Those I’ve met can by no means disregard me. They always view me with either a look of good will or animosity. I know that the good will forms into trust or fellowship and the animosity into awe or possibly dread. Thereby have I grasped… the hearts of so many in these hands.

…But why is it when it comes to him I always lose my composure?

He was the reason I’ve been thrown into this darkness, and now he’s the sole sustenance keeping me alive. Out of so many thousands of comrades and tens of thousands of enemies, why just him…?

How long ago did someone I was supposed to have in hand… instead gain such a strong hold on me?

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Because you’re in love with him, oh my god.

At the end of the day, that’s what it boils down to. That’s the difference between Griffith shutting Casca out and letting Guts in. That’s why Casca has been jealous of Guts. Casca wanted to be Griffith’s emotional support, something indispensible to his dream – she wanted to be the one to “change him that way” – and learning that her feelings for Griffith were romantic all along points pretty conclusively imo to envying Guts for being the person Griffith loves, rather than her.

I’m going to be honest here: as much as I’ve been taking it as read that Griffith is in love with Guts (and, tbqh, vice versa) I wasn’t actually planning to make it a central point of this meta. I genuinely thought, going in, that I could focus on Guts as an emotional crutch and shield against his self loathing, as I’ve been doing so far. Yk, Griffith allows himself to become dependant on him because he loves him, but the point is the emotional dependency, not the love, right?

Fuckin wrong.

The climax of Griffith’s narrative can’t be understood without not just acknowledging that Griffith is in love with Guts, but recognizing it as the whole point and his central motivation.

This is going to be important later, but for now I’m stating that up front and I figure this is a good place to do so because, between Casca’s confession to Guts and Griffith’s monologue, it’s basically Miura spelling out the fact that this love is Griffith’s strongest motivating factor.

(And, just as an aside, despite the fact that it’s never explicitly defined, I’m calling it romantic love because a) it is, b) like, it just fucking is lol. I feel like you have to jump through hoops and twist yourself in knots to call it platonic. Without assuming that straightness is the default, saying Griffith is in love with Guts is genuinely the most straightforward, clear and concise way of reading this relationship to me. All my points hold true if you call it platonic love so ultimately you do you, but if I called it that I’d be being disingenuous.)

This monologue is our re-introduction to Griffith after a year of nothing but torture, darkness, and self-reflection. It’s the definitive statement on his relationship to Guts and how it compares to the dream now, after he’s lost both.

And the dream barely rates a mention. The matching visual of the shining/vivid thing, and the way Griffith opens the monologue by describing the dream as the brightest thing he’d ever seen, prime the reader to expect that the one vivid thing is the dream. That after losing Guts, Griffith has returned to obsessing over the dream in deluded desperation, or is maybe lamenting its demise.

But it’s a pure bait and switch because Guts is all-important to him now. Despite Guts’ rejection, despite the loss, despite the fact that he’s partially blaming Guts for having been tortured for a year, next to him the dream grows dull.

A core point of this meta was basically to show how this has been true from the very start. It’s not that Guts only outshines the dream when the dream has been lost to him, it’s that, after losing both the dream and Guts and being forced to confront himself, stripped of all those defenses that help keep him in denial, Griffith is finally able to understand, too late, what has been most important to him all along.

And this remains true. From Guts rescuing him to Griffith choosing to sacrifice him for the dream, Guts is still more important.

But if Griffith’s story up until Guts leaves has been about how his relationship with Guts had begun to replace his dream as the thing he turns to in order to shield himself from his weaknesses – guilt, self-loathing, the weight of lives on his shoulders, etc – then his story when Guts returns follows the opposite trajectory:

it’s about how he returns to his dream as his armour against his feelings for Guts.

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And the place we’re starting from is Griffith letting go of his dream.

Back near the beginning Zodd gave Guts a prophecy:

If you can be said to be a true friend of this man… then take heed… When his ambition collapses… death will pay you a visit! A death you can never escape!

Because Zodd is a dramatic asshole. But the thing is, Griffith’s ambition has collapsed. His dream’s dead. The closest he can get to it before literal magic intercedes in his life is in moments of self-delusion, like when he told Charlotte he’d return to her, and when he snapped and chased a hallucination. But in the cold light of day, aware and relatively sane, he knows his dream is gone. Charlotte could still be over the moon for him and it’s not going to help him gain her kingdom without a tongue or working limbs, and he does know it.

And when Griffith watches the castle disappear over the horizon and lets the flowers in his hands go as his symbolic child self runs away from the brightest thing he’d ever seen rather than towards, when Griffith lets go of his dream, he’s… okay.

The Godhand don’t make an appearance. The behelit doesn’t come back and start screaming. Griffith is continuing on. This is acceptance. We’ve already seen the monologue about how the dream barely matters to him in comparison to Guts after all, so this isn’t too surprising either.

And then fucking Wyald shows up.

This fight’s significance to Griffith’s narrative is in his distance from the others, his alienation in being the only one who can’t pick up a sword to fight, and his helplessness as he desperately tries to do something to help Casca and Guts and can’t even manage to tear himself away from his minders, particularly in contrast to the fight against Zodd.

Eg:

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Guts compares this fight to the Zodd fight a lot. When he’s briefly knocked out we see a flashback to a discussion with Erica where he talks about Zodd and Erica suspects he wants to fight him again. We see Guts thinking about Zodd as his only other frame of reference for a real live monster. And we see him think about Zodd when it comes to his and Griffith’s partnership specifically.

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This emphasizes the difference between that fight and this current fight. Namely:

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Whereas when Griffith tried to rescue Guts from Zodd they then squared off and faced him together, when Guts saves Casca he tells her to get lost and insists on taking Wyald one on one, because he’s got a score to settle.

Compared to the fight with Zodd, which led to the most positive and hopeful moment of their relationship – Griffith admitting he had no rational reason to leap into danger and save Guts, and Guts realizing he may have found what he’s been looking for ever since he killed Gambino – this fight with Wyald is a showcase of Griffith’s enforced distance and isolation from everyone, especially Guts.

If Griffith saving Guts from Zodd was the pinnacle of their relationship, the truest and most revealing moment of how Griffith feels, leading to Guts’ subsequent acceptance of those feelings and dedication to him in turn, then Guts pointedly fighting Wyald alone highlights the low point they’ve entered where they’re forcibly separated by Griffith’s broken body and voicelessness. They’ll never be a team again.

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The chapter right after the fight is a heartbreaking mix of hope and despair. It begins, very appropriately, with Charlotte telling Anna that Griffith said he’d come back to her. Logically, like I’ve said, Griffith was deluding himself at that point. He accepts that his dream is gone a few hours later when they make it out of the sewer tunnels.

But by bringing it up and explaining that moment here, at the beginning of this chapter, it serves handily as ominous foreshadowing, and, even better, it’s a reminder that Griffith has always clung to his dream as emotional self-defense, and it still “smoulders from the bottom of [his] heart.”

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The thing is, the comparison between Wyald and Zodd isn’t solely for the sake of contrast. It’s also a reminder of that pinnacle of their relationship, of

Griffith risking his life and dream for Guts, of Guts feeling like he’d found that indefinable thing he’d been searching for ever since he killed Gambino. It’s a sign of hope that the potential for their relationship isn’t lost. They’ve lost their ability to fight side by side, but their relationship isn’t predicated on just being able to fight together, or Griffith’s leadership, or the structure of the Hawks. It’s based on genuine love and mutual respect, and that isn’t gone.

Despite everything, they can still smile at each other. This scene demonstrates the potential they have just as two people who love each other, and gives readers vain hope for their future as it simultaneously sows the seeds for the destruction of their relationship.

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The mask/helmet is a symbol of his former role as the leader of the Hawks, and hence, a symbol of everything that entails: the dream, repression, isolation, the image of perfection, everything I’ve been talking about for way too high a wordcount now. All those defense mechanisms.

Guts saying it’s okay for Griffith to take off the mask since it’s just the two of them is, therefore, an extremely loaded statement. Guts is offering Griffith the opportunity to be vulnerable, to be himself, no image, no mask, no leadership position, just the two of them, as equals, in each other’s company. He’s offering acceptance of Griffith, weakness and vulnerability and physical damage and all.

Instead of accepting, Griffith asks for his armour. It’s a way of reinforcing the barrier between them, and hiding his vulnerability.

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The great thing about this chapter is that I don’t have to work to justify any of this because it’s literally called, “Armor to the Heart,” lol. Telling Charlotte he’d return was denial for the sake of guarding his heart against the reality of having lost everything he’d once strived for, and asking for his armour is a more literal version of that. Once Guts puts it on him he starts awkwardly denying reality too – such as telling Griffith he’ll be able to swing a sword soon.

Rather than Griffith being able to accept the truth of what’s happened – that he’s vulnerable, he’s helpless, he can no longer win for the sake of the dead, everything he’s worked for is lost – and maybe find consolation in Guts’ acceptance of him and love for him despite that, he tries to keep hiding behind the old image of perfection, the way he used to. This is basically a futile version of Griffith smiling and telling Casca, “it’s nothing.”

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When Wyald returns like a bad penny, he really gets to the heart of what it means for Griffith to manufacture this image of himself to hide his vulnerability behind, and boy is it devastating:

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Griffith is a symbol. He has deliberately cultivated that ideal image of himself as the perfect leader, a knight in shining armour. It keeps him distanced and detached from everyone except Guts, who has been allowed to see through it. His allies see him as a symbol of hope and change for the better, his enemies see him as a symbol of corruption in the system and change for the worse, Gennon sees him as a symbol of perfect beauty, Charlotte sees him as a symbol of a perfect relationship, and his Hawks see him as a symbol of their rise to glory.

And, of course, it all leads back to Griffith’s dream. It’s the reason it’s necessary to become this idealized image, rather than a real person. It’s an intrinsic part of his ascent to the throne.

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And it’s part of how he convinces himself that he’s all right, “it’s nothing.” It helps him deny his emotions and bury them. If he can convince everyone else he’s perfect, he can convince himself. That mask of perfection is an intrinsic part of his defense against his self-loathing.

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This is what he tried to hide behind when he asked Guts to dress him in his armour, and this is what Wyald strips away from him now.

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He’s lost nearly every defense he has against his own self-hatred. His dream is dead in the water and he failed to prove that everything he’s done and all the lives lost in his wake were worthwhile sacrifices. He’s not one of the mover shakers of the world, he’s just an ordinary person who wanted to be special and couldn’t stand the weight of guilt on his shoulders.

Now he’s helpless and dependent; not only did he wholly fail the people who follow him, he is now reliant on them, without anything even to offer in exchange. Wyald pretty much takes away his last lingering ability to deny this.

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To Griffith, this is as close to hell as you get without dying first. He didn’t keep winning for the sake of the dead, he lost, for good. He failed everyone, dead and alive, and his very existence is worse than worthless, it’s a burden on others (from his point of view).

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I’d say that this couldn’t be a more perfectly tailored hell for Griffith if someone designed it that way, but, well, someone did design it that way.

Then the next scene just doubles down.

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Honestly there are a shitload of possible readings of this scene, many of them not even mutually exclusive, and I think there are a number of complex factors that feed into it, but I’m landing on one for the purposes of this meta.

Based on what I perceive of Griffith’s own feelings of self-worth and his current headspace, and particularly the way the scene with Wyald right before serves as a literal and metaphorical stripping away of everything that gives Griffith a sense of worth, I think one solid reading is that he’s offering himself to Casca here because it’s the only thing left of himself that potentially has worth to someone.

Like I’ve seen other Berserk fans call this an attempted rape as a matter of course, which couldn’t be further from the truth, and not only because he literally stops when Casca says stop, and is physically incapable of even taking his clothes off. It’s not a sneak preview of the Eclipse rape, it’s a huge, pointed contrast.

This is Griffith at his lowest. He’s broken, desperate, and he feels worthless. He’s not trying to fuck Casca because he wants to, it’s because at one point that’s what she wanted.

He moves on her right after overhearing her tell Guts that she just wants to be held, after she contemplates her shaking hands and remembers how Griffith had once been able to comfort her with just a hand on her shoulder. Contextually the set-up of this scene points to Griffith desperately wanting to be that person who could comfort Casca once again, instead of being the person who needs comfort.

I also think there’s a precedent that sets this scene up with Casca comforting Guts sexually and thinking, “not just being given to… maybe I can give something as well.” The difference between giving and being given to is a recurrent theme, and I think this scene draws on it.

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But he is the one who needs to be comforted. He no longer has the power or the position to be the one offering comfort. Casca refuses his sexual offer, and as he trembles above her, she lays her hand on him, in a role-reversal that just highlights everything of his past self that he’s lost.

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If Griffith’s ability to once put on the mask of perfection and comfort Casca even in the midst of his own despair was a demonstration of strength, this is a humiliating demonstration of complete and utter weakness and uselessness. It seems that now he’s nothing to Casca, once his most devoted follower and admirer, except a victim who needs to be taken care of.

Guts’ hand on his shoulder in Tombstone was a sign of his emotional vulnerability to Guts specifically, because of the unique nature of their relationship. It was a symbol of Guts’ hold on him and Griffith’s weakness in loving him. Casca’s hand on Griffith’s back now is a sign of Griffith’s vulnerability in general. His armour’s been stripped off, his dream is gone, everything he once relied on to help him repress his self loathing has been ripped away, and now he can’t offer Casca anything; he can only accept her comforting hand.

Griffith has one thing left: Guts, and the possibility of absolution to be found in his love, if Guts does still love him. If Griffith needed to hear that he wasn’t cruel back in Tombstone of Flame, now he desperately, desperately needs to hear that he’s worth something to someone. That he isn’t just a cruel monster who piled up a mountain of corpses and then couldn’t even climb it all the way, who is now just a useless inconvenience to everyone with the weight of thousands of bodies on his shoulders.

And I believe, despite everything, that Guts would’ve been enough. Narratively, we’re told that he could’ve been enough. Griffith’s torture chamber monologue, Griffith letting his dream go, the way “I’ll st-” is placed on a panel of Griffith sleeping through it, conveying a sense of missed opportunity perfectly:

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And the way Guts realized he fucked up by leaving only seconds after Griffith has overheard them.

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Note that this line is a conclusive call-back to Guts musing on this statement a few pages earlier, making it clear that it refers to his regret over leaving, and how by leaving he threw away the thing he wished for in the first place:

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If there wasn’t at least the possibility for Griffith to find some kind of happiness in a life with Guts at his side despite losing everything else, none of this would matter. Guts finally making the right choice by deciding to stay just as Griffith thinks he’s going to leave again would be dramatically pointless.

And this is a tragedy, so despite all these hope spots, this happens:

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And Griffith just fucking breaks.

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What do you fear in this place? asks the version of Griffith who still has a dream, and then he points to another place, a place where Griffith could leave his fears behind.

Like this is literally right after he overhears Casca telling Guts to leave. This was the part I struggled with until I just went with my gut, backed up, and realized that this isn’t actually about Griffith’s self-loathing, or his fears of being worthless or a burden. It’s not about being stripped of his coping mechanisms.

This is about being in love with Guts. This is about the visceral fear of Guts leaving him again, not because of how it might reflect on Griffith as a person with or without worth, but because he loves Guts so much he can’t bear the thought of a life without him.

Griffith’s dream is a coping mechanism. This page conveys that concept as clearly as anything. “What do you fear in this place?” Run away from it, towards your dream, your kingdom, the safe place you’ve fantasized about all your life, the place where you have the power to make things better.

He desperately chases his hallucinatory vision of his dream, and then he has a vision of a potential future:

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And, true to form, the defining aspect of this short, three-page sequence isn’t the loss of Griffith’s dream or his helplessness and dependency. It’s not about his self-loathing or being unable to hide his weakness behind armour and a mask of perfection. It’s Guts’ absence. The point is that Griffith is here, with Casca, and Guts is elsewhere.

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“With you and the boy… just the three of us.” Like their kid is even named after Guts, just to highlight the actual Guts’ absence as emphatically, and depressingly, as possible. The first image is Griffith surrounded by Miura’s patented black panel of symbolic isolation, Casca brings up Guts and wonders where he is, then reiterates that it’s “just” the three of them. In a total of three pages containing almost no other information what we’re given is Griffith with Casca and a nightmare kid named after the man he loves, Guts gone, and Griffith’s total mental and emotional detachment from the world.

And then he wakes up and immediately tries to kill himself.

What does Griffith fear in this place?

The first time Guts left him he ran to Charlotte, the means of achieving his dream, for comfort, denial, escape from reality, and self-destruction.

This time he tries to turn to his dream again, but it’s nothing more than a hallucination that segues into a nightmare in which Guts has left him behind, and with no dream to escape to, no armour or mask bury his heart under, no coping mechanisms left, he loses himself. “This peace and quiet isn’t so bad,” he thinks, barely even aware, his life stretching out ahead of him, without Guts.

That is, after all, the one difference between now and the torture chamber. He’d lost his dream, his tongue, the use of his limbs, his self-worth, ability to hide behind an image, and Guts then, too, and the Godhand never showed. But Griffith thought he would eventually die in the torture chamber – even if the King specified that he live through a year, that’s a lot less than a lifetime. Now he’s faced with a full life in this state, apart from Guts.

And I want to make this distinction clear. The prospect of losing Guts is what sends him into suicidal despair. It’s not the loss of his dream or the stripping away of the persona he hid under – in other words, it’s not the loss of the coping mechanisms he used to rely on that drives him to despair. Losing those is likely what makes suicide, and then sacrifice, seem like the only possible escape from his despair, hence the set-up with Wyald and Casca hammering home the fact that he’s lost all his ways of guarding his heart, but it’s not the source of that despair. The source is Guts.

Guts was replacing the dream as Griffith’s defense against self loathing. But that does not make Guts just one more coping mechanism to lose. He’s not the final straw that broke the camel’s back, he’s the whole bundle of hay.

The premise of the first three parts of this meta was that his relationship with Guts helps Griffith deal with the immense weight of everything he’s done on the path to his dream, and had the potential to fully replace achieving the dream as Griffith’s way of not hating himself.

Well the premise of this part is that the reason Guts could’ve replaced the dream is because Griffith is in love with Guts, incredibly, all-consumingly in love with him, and now that is what he needs help coping with. There’s no getting around this lol, and no way of downplaying it either.

We know this because of how his nightmarish vision of a life with Casca highlights Guts’ absence instead of, eg, his self loathing, or his lack of an image to hide behind, or his guilt, or being a burden to Casca (hell, in his imagination she’s explicitly content.) We know it because it’s the words, “even if it’s alone, you have to go,” that make Griffith snap. We know it because the entire narrative of the Golden Age has largely been devoted to establishing that Griffith feels unprecedented, incredibly powerful feelings for Guts, and this is the payoff.

We know it because Berserk thoroughly foreshadowed the Eclipse during the Black Swordsman arc, and it was absolutely not subtle about about love as a motivation:

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I’ve written a post fully explaining this already so I’m not going to be that thorough here, but suffice to say, through images like Femto there on “so that you could bury your fragile human heart,” through Puck’s direct questions and statements, through the entire point of this scene being to hint at Guts’ backstory, etc, it’s made very clear that the Count and Griffith/Femto are parallels.

And we know it because of what drives Griffith past that final point of despair that opens the behelit.

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Sorry for posting practically the whole scene, but damn, don’t you just want to bask in it?

After everything – the loss of his dream, the torture, the loss of his voice and working limbs, the loss of his image, of his escape, of his denial, of his pride, and the loss of Guts – what finally plunges him into the kind of despair that creates a demonic demigod is the touch of Guts’ hand. Specifically his hand on Griffith’s shoulder.

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What does Griffith fear in this place? What drives Griffith into despair?

Love.

It’s the understanding how utterly fucking gone he is for Guts. That hand on his shoulder signifies Griffith’s vulnerability to Guts because of his feelings, and it’s that touch that finally opens the behelit.

To split hairs, what drives him to despair is not believing that Guts will leave him, it’s knowing that if Guts leaves him, the loss will destroy him.

After all, it already happened once.

He was the reason I’ve been thrown into this darkness, and now he’s the sole sustenance keeping me alive.

And Griffith’s vision of the future shows us a version of what he believes will happen: if the first time Guts left his body was destroyed, the second time the rest of him will follow. We saw him existing in a seemingly permanent state of semi-dissociation, maybe living entirely in daydreams (”daydreaming again…”), barely aware of the present.

Love is the source of Griffith’s despair – the overwhelming, horrifying, life-destroying vulnerability of love.

So Griffith turns back to his first defense mechanism to escape it.

Now, I don’t want to downplay the role Griffith’s guilt plays in the sacrifice. I didn’t write three posts about Griffith’s issues only to completely ignore them at the climax of his arc just because love happens to take centre stage.

So let’s briefly recap.

Griffith is filled with guilt and self-loathing; his dream was a way of repressing those feelings with the belief that one day his very existence, and everything he’s done during that existence, would be justified. One day Guts came along and instead of continuing to live in repression and emotional denial he fell in love and started opening up. This made him vulnerable and “weak,” so when Guts seemingly rejected him because of everything Griffith hates about himself, his dream was no longer enough for him to retreat to. So he crashed and burned. Now he’s stripped of all his defenses and the horror of that vulnerability to love has sent him into pure despair.

And now some cenobite looking assholes have joined the party and they’re telling Griffith ex-fucking-zactly what he’s spent most of his life desperately hoping to one day hear, in some form or another:

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And despite being plunged into crimson-behelit-opening despair by his love for Guts, despite already being told everything he wants and needs to know – that he’s been chosen by God, all is not lost, he has another chance, and to take it what he has to do is sacrifice the Band – he still irrationally, desperately prioritizes Guts when his life is in danger yet again:

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This is such a tragic moment, because this is the last time Griffith chooses Guts over the dream. And, once again because he loves Griffith, Guts is the one who lets go of his hand, falling away from Griffith into darkness like a lost beacon.

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So, separated from Guts, the Godhand bring Griffith up to the palm of the hand and then they proceed to play him like a fiddle, knowing exactly which buttons to push, in their exploration of his self-loathing and guilt.

Like, they’re not lying to Griffith, technically. What Ubik and Conrad are doing is playing to Griffith’s shame and guilt. They are showing Griffith his own image of himself:

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Griffith sees himself as a stupid kid scaling a mountain of corpses to get to a castle. He’s consumed by guilt, which is why he can’t stop – because if he does, if he apologizes, if he repents, everything will come to an end, and that mountain of people will have died for nothing.

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We already know this, of course.

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The Godhand show Griffith his own perception of himself, and tell him that it’s completely accurate.

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So of course, of course we have to revist the moment Griffith asked someone if they see him the same way he does, in the hopes of getting a different answer:

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With Guts, Griffith could’ve taken a different route. He could’ve learned not to see himself as a monster. In showing Guts the worst of himself and being accepted, he could’ve accepted his own self-worth, independent of achieving a dream.

I mean, let’s be real here: Griffith has no real reason to feel as guilty as he does, or as driven for the sake of the dead as he does. He’s right when he says that the Hawks chose to follow him. The only people whose deaths he forced were enemies trying to kill him, give or take a pedophile who wanted to capture him as a sex slave rather than kill him, and a kid whose death was an accident and not on his orders, even if it did work out great for him. He’s a military leader, but so is Guts, so is Casca, hell so is Rickert technically, and none of them feel any guilt about the people they kill in battle, or the men they send to their deaths.

It’s heavily suggested that Griffith wants a kingdom in order to create a place of equality, where people’s lives and bodies aren’t bought and sold. (”What a waste. On the battlefield, the life of a common soldier isn’t worth even a single piece of silver.”) When he eventually does get a kingdom that’s exactly what it is, and it exists to grant the deep desire of humanity as a collective – in other words, the people who fought and died for it considered it worth fighting and risking their lives for. It’s not just Griffith who wants this kingdom, according to the narrative, it’s humanity – certainly the non-elite majority of humanity.

Griffith thinking of himself as a monster, and the Godhand calling him one, is Griffith’s own personal self-loathing bullshit talking, not an objective moral judgement, or Miura’s moral judgement.

Like, Miura deliberately shows us that the Godhand are fucking with him, telling us that chapter 77′s magical mystery tour through “the reality within his conscious realm” is highly manipulative and far from objective:

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If Guts – any close, intimate, revealing, and genuine relationship really, but Griffith’s with Guts is the one this is about – was Griffith’s potential to see himself differently, to judge himself less harshly through the eyes of another, then the Godhand is a reinforcement of Griffith’s self-loathing.

Guts could’ve told Griffith he wasn’t cruel, wasn’t a monster, that he genuinely loved and admired him even while knowing all those things Griffith is ashamed of, and left so he could be more like him and become a friend to him. But he didn’t, and now the Godhand are using his words to tell Griffith that he is cruel, he is a monster – and that it’s necessary to be.

(And, just to be clear, this isn’t a judgement of Guts. He has his own giant pile of issues contributing to this world-destroying misunderstanding, and I feel like I fully understand his reasons for every mistake he made, and I love him for them lol, just like I love Griffith for his contribution of issues to this enormous fuck up. But this is about Griffith’s side of things, not Guts’.)

So, if Guts could’ve been a healthier way for Griffith to be absolved of guilt by altering his perspective of himself, the Godhand absolves Griffith of guilt through the method I described way back in part one of this thing:

by giving him a divine seal of approval.

If it be reason that destiny transcend human intellect and make playthings of children… it is cause and effect that a child bear his evil and confront destiny.

This is your destiny, kid. You’re not responsible for anything, you have no reason to feel guilty. You’re a horrible monstrous person piling up corpses to reach a castle, but hey, it’s okay – that’s your predetermined role in life. So you’re absolved, just as long as you roll with fate, add some more bodies to the pile, and double-down on that whole monster thing.

This is everything Griffith has always wanted.

Turns out he’s special after all. Everything he’s done that he hates himself for is justified because in the end he was meant for greatness. All those dead people can still achieve the thing they died for, all the dirty things he’s done were worthwhile, even his torture and despair was part of the wheel of fate and has meaning. All he has to do to sign off is agree to sacrifice a group of people who already pledged their lives to him, who he led and fought beside in full knowledge that they might one day die on his orders, for the sake of his dream, anyway.

And also Guts.

I don’t think I need more evidence that Guts is special and stands alone among the rest of the sacrifices, but I do want to point out that right before the Eclipse Miura emphasizes that Guts is no longer a part of the Hawks.

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Guts fights his own battles. Unlike the rest of the Hawks, he has very deliberately removed himself from Griffith’s dream so he can be Griffith’s friend and equal instead of his underling. Back with Casca he said he wants to, “draw the line… keep things separate.” And, “I’ve made up my mind. I’ll never entrust my sword to another again. I’ll never hang from someone else’s dream.”

This distinction between Guts and the rest of the Hawks is significant because he is not being sacrificed for the same reason as the rest of the Hawks. He’s not being sacrificed as an underling, as one more necessary evil on the path to his dream. Once again, Guts stands apart to Griffith.

I tend to think of the sequence from Griffith reaching the palm of the hand to “I sacrifice,” our very last scene with original, fully human Griffith, as a mirror to our very first scene with Griffith in structure.

That first scene was much shorter, but similarly 90% of it revolved around Griffith’s dream and the philosophy of fate and vindication behind it, building up to the moment that he said, “it’s funny… you’re the first person I’ve ever spoken to like this.”

90% of this sequence revolves around Griffith’s dream, his guilt issues, his self-loathing, and Void validating it all and vinidcating him, telling him he’s one of those keys that shape the world after all. And it all builds up to this:

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Among thousands of comrades and tens of thousands of enemies… you’re the only one… You’re the only one… who made me forget my dream.

Griffith has a lot of very good reasons to say yes to the sacrifice. I sure hope somewhere in this fuckload of words about those reasons I’ve managed to show that it makes perfect logical sense for him to take the Godhand up on their offer.

And yet, the final, climactic reason given – the moment all this logic builds to, is emotional. You made me forget my dream.

Ultimately Griffith has two reasons for making the sacrifice:

1. achieve his dream, pile up some more bodies, reach the castle, let fate absolve him of guilt.

2. fuck you, Guts.

Griffith overhearing Casca telling Guts to leave, Guts’ hand on Griffith’s shoulder sending him into despair, the Count parallel, the sheer amount of Griffith’s narrative that revolves around his life-destroying, irrational feelings for Guts, the final conclusive statement from human Griffith… I feel like, given everything, it’s impossible to deny this aspect of Griffith’s motivation.

Again, the dream is an escape. In making the sacrifice, Griffith is falling back on all of his defense mechanisms to escape the pain in his heart, the pain of love.

“You’re the only one… You’re the only one… who made me forget my dream,” is a tender, tragic statement of love, and it’s also an accusation. How dare you be necessary to me, how dare you be able to destroy me just by leaving, how dare you make me love you.

It’s because of that love that Griffith lost everything, because he needed Guts, Guts made him weak, and Guts abandoned him. It’s because of that love, because he thought Guts was leaving again, that Griffith felt the worst despair of his life and tried to kill himself.

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GOD he’s so in love. And that’s what he’s he’s trying to carve out of himself and escape from, by making the sacrifice. His fragile human heart.

It’s another form of self-destruction. The way he “destroyed himself,” by throwing himself at his dream when Guts left the first time mirrors the way he’s destroying himself now, with the exact same motivation behind it.

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He becomes the monster he’s always believed himself to be. His armour and the mask – the one he wore in the torture chamber, the one mockingly modeled after his White Hawk persona – become an exoskeleton. Femto embodies Griffith’s self-loathing. Every part of himself Griffith hated, every reason he thought he was cruel, every assassination he was ashamed of, every body paving the way to his dream, is what Femto is made of, and his shame, his self-hatred, his love, his guilt, his despair, have all been shattered and torn away.

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And if Femto is Griffith’s self-loathing, then NeoGriffith is the image of perfection.

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In making the sacrifice and burying his heart, Griffith became the embodiment of everything he hated in himself, and everything those who never truly knew him admired about him. The cruelty, the monstrosity, the ruthlessness, the filth; the beauty, the immaculate perfection, the charisma, the sense of singularity.

He destroyed himself and became the false conception of Griffith.

Give or take.

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Welp, that does it. I’m not going to really get into anything Femto or NeoGriffith has done or said, because this is about human Griffith’s character and narrative. Griffith’s final act as a whole person was choosing to sacrifice Guts for his dream, and lbr you couldn’t ask for a more narratively satisfying send off, so that’s where I’m ending this. And tbh if I went any further it’d lean way more towards critique than analysis anyway.

Ultimately the Golden Age is Griffith’s story. Guts may be the protagonist, but it’s Griffith’s feelings, actions, and choices that drive the plot. Griffith kickstarts the narrative and he ends it. And Griffith’s story is about falling in love. It’s about how love can strengthen you and help you overcome the worst of yourself, and it’s about how love can make you weak, vulnerable, and desperate for an escape. And, because it’s a tragedy, it’s about how and why Griffith chooses escape and succumbs to the worst of himself rather than overcoming his flaws through a mutually supportive relationship with Guts.

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The Brightest Thing – A Griffith Analysis

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Part Three – you made Griffith weak

Part One
Part Two

To Griffith, the dream is emotional security. It’s assurance that if he’s dirty, then it’s because it’s necessary to be so, so he can keep winning for the sake of the dead. It’s a way for him to repress his guilt and self loathing, because when he gets that kingdom-shaped seal of approval, it will have been worth it.

So when I say that Griffith’s relationship with Guts is beginning to replace the dream, that’s what I mean – rather than relying on the dream to reassure himself that everything he’s done, even his very existence, is worthwhile, he could rely on Guts for that. He starts opening up to Guts, rather than repressing through his dream.

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Omfg I just noticed Judeau in there! I miss that loser. That’s a great touch considering his last actions.

lol yeah, i kinda miss him too and it’s been nice seeing him (and the rest of the hawks too) in some of casca’s memories including this. tbh i found the whole sequence with judeau and casca during the eclipse to be really touching and probably the time when i felt saddest for casca in particular – i thought miura did a fantastic job with those chapters and casca’s emotional reaction to the horror, and trying to keep a brave face even while judeau is dying beside her, etc.

it was nice to see a shout out to that, and tbh also a bunch of other Hawks dying horrifically. idk after so many of Guts’ Eclipse memories focusing exclusively on monster rape it felt refreshing to see that Casca’s friends all being horribly killed around her was also something that fucked her up.

lmao god i saw this part and was like DDDDDDDD:

because it looks like tiny casca’s waving at dog guts, and while i can’t say for sure that that isn’t the case, if it is it’s a continuity error because the door closes facing farnese

and the panels right before this are of casca turning to her before hopping in so that cute little wave has got to be for farnese, right?

@yesgabsstuff yeah from an ignoring-Miura’s-authorial-intent pure character perspective I think I’d lean towards internalized homophobia as the strongest reason behind Griffith’s self-loathing there. (Also tbf this was before any torture actually started happening, besides the King whipping him.)

When you think about it, it’s likely that his only experience with attraction to and sex with men was w/ Gennon, the pedophilic rapist, and it would make perfect sense for me to see Griffith as horrified of his own attraction to Guts being similar in any way. And there’s a good chance he’d see same sex attraction as intrinsically predatory bc of his own personal history.

Also, this is slightly an aside but like wrt his feelings for Guts being pure or not like, I really don’t give a fuck personally about Griffith accepting the possibility of killing Guts and within Berserk I hardly feel like it’s even that terrible lol, both Casca and Serpico have gone a step further and actively tried to kill Guts and we’re supposed to like them just fine. “If I can’t have him,” does give it an extra layer of possessiveness, but part of the point of the torture chamber scene is that Griffith realizes that and knows it was a fucked up irrational reaction and not actually what he wants.

i have this vague concern that my analysis of a certain scene at the end of my griffith meta part 3 could end up being used as fuel for people who hate griffith, which i was v wary about going in and definitely shows in how i wrote it lmao

but tbh the handy thing about writing ridiculously long meta is that no one who hates griffith is going to read all the way to the end so i probably don’t have anything to worry about there, right?

i don’t think there’s room for this in my griffith meta bc it doesn’t particularly pertain to the point, but i need to point something out:

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Griffith notices this, and may even hear what Casca says since she’s shouting, and we get one of his patented jealous looks in reaction.

And the next thing we see him do right after this?

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Futilely try to do anything to save Casca when Wyald immediately picks her up. Because his jealousy is a minor component of his entire being, and his love for his friends is by far a more powerful motivating factor.

Like shit like this is why I can’t deal with people who think Femto is just Griffith with power lol. He’s Griffith with the jealousy (among other negative emotions) magnified to an extreme degree and the compassion and love and empathy etc etc removed. Like that is explicitly stated but yk, these details help too.