Casca from Berserk..
Honestly Griffith deep down feels like he can’t relate to anyone, of course Guts was an exception, but he didn’t outright said it. Griffith is an ENTJ? He’s introverted and social, and people love his charisma, but don’t see him and maybe that bothers him he has to meet their expectations which is depressing tbh. I feel bad for Griffith, he’s a beautiful tragedy a bouquet of roses so beautiful but go down it’s rotten and sharp thorns. I feel for him, unpopular op tbh, I love him lol.
lol well if you love Griffith and sympathize with him you came to the right place. tbh i’ve never been into the whole personality type thing so all I can do is nod along with your assessment lol, but yeah I definitely think Griffith feels removed from everyone except Guts.
guts’ monologue to judeau and corkus about why he wants to leave the hawks is literally
“fellas is it gay to leave all your friends and change your life philosophy so that a cute guy will look at you?”
more guts/griffith guts/serpico stuff lol, image heavy so under a cut
anyway i’m feeling like this is at least somewhat purposeful for the sake of illustrating the way the rpg group is replacing the hawks in guts’ life, but as far as I can tell the only characters who get actual parallels to guts and griffith’s relationship are serpico and casca so like
make it gayer miura. put some effort into it.
Not so serious question. After the copious amounts of bathing scenes with the girls, do you think we might get one with the guys in the future?
i wish, guts and serpico having a naked water fight would fit right in like i was just saying in that last post lol, but miura is a coward
like i’m js the golden age was significantly more popular than everything after for a reason, miura needs to stop being stubborn and return to his homoerotic roots
real talk i’ll accept guts’ narrative as being about successfully getting over griffith and moving on and eventually getting a happy griffith-free ending if and only if guts/serpico goes canon
and not just because the idea of guts moving on from his homoerotic obsession with a dude thru a hetero relationship kills me, but also because it just makes the most sense ~thematically~ lol
this moment was built up since like 40 chapters earlier when Skull Knight warned Guts that he’d have to make a choice not to pursue Griffith. Frankly I think it’s nearly comedic how hard the narrative railroaded Guts into making this choice, ie by showing that Guts choosing Griffith over getting on a boat would’ve been effectively suicide lol, and even then he still needed someone to remind him not to be an idiot – but the fact remains that this significant step on the road to moving on from Griffith was enabled by Serpico leaping in to save Guts from Zodd, a situation with a pretty significant precedent we all remember and love.
and like tbqh it’s criminal that guts and serpico’s interactions when they’re not trying to kill each other are almost always super bland bc out of the current group serpico has the greatest potential to have an interesting and intense relationship with guts imho and like, idk miura kind of tells us this a few times but never shows it.
Casca’s dress has wings and feathers that looks like Griffith. They pair of wings in the middle looks like the white hawk. She is dressed in White. I don’t think it means anything, but still…
tbh I think it might be a visual nod to how Casca was the leader of the Hawks. There was a strong emphasis on her role as the leader during the Eclipse, when Judeau was determined to save her, and to Guts she largely represents his three years of happiness with the Hawks now. She’s kind of set up as the representative of the Band 1.0, and the dress fits that.
This is a thread I like so maybe I’m overemphasizing it, but imo it would be nice if it was picked up again, and now’s the time to do it.
(or yk maybe it’s bc Danann genuinely wants to set her and Guts up and she knows Guts has a thing for ethereal figures dressed in white with wing motifs lmao.)
Don’t you think SkullKnight is a fishy fella, I mean his rivalry with Void is the same as Griffith and Guts. Who knows maybe in the past SkullKnight was the one who wronged Void and he used the Behelit, Miura does things differently.
I’d love to see their history tbh, and yeah I hope it’s not just Void = Griffith, SK = Guts because that sounds boring af. Plus Skull Knight has strong parallels to both Griffith and Guts, so if his history with Void is in any way similar it would be cool if it was a remix rather than a repetition, where they both have aspects of both.
I mean there’s a theory of mine where Skull Knight was an earlier incarnated Godhand 1000 years ago, like Griffith, since Gaiseric was the previous ruler of what is now Falconia and has been compared to Griffith bc of it, and tbqh if Void sacrificed him along with the rest of his city to become the first of the next batch of Godhand members that would be like, rly interesting to me.
But that’s just a pipe dream lol. Not something I have evidence for other than Godhands incarnating once every thousand years, and Gaiseric appearing out of nowhere and building an empire with Falconia 1.0 as his central hub a thousand years ago, and Void looking shifty when Slan or Ubik talks about how unprecedented a sacrifice surviving is.
And yeah like I’m over here theorizing that he’s using Guts to get to the Godhand, like I definitely don’t think he’s just a chill friendly ally of Guts, helping him out of the goodness of his heart. He has an agenda. Tho as per Flora (”Old friend, I want to believe you still have the heart of a man” or whatever the line was) if he’s using Guts and co now and fucking them over he might end up making up for it later.
farnesca
hohoho
so i did what i said i was going to do, re-read most of the elfhelm chapters to see if i could figure anything out.
and idk how solid this is, especially considering how biased in favour of it i am lol, but i came up with this theory last night
hey guys i just solved berserk
This is like, the fucking plan. Skull Knight and Danann are conspiring to have the behelit open in Elfhelm, by Danann’s spirit tree, summoning the Godhand, so Skull Knight can do his thing, quite probably aided by Elfhelm tree magic, and entomb them in the vortex. Probably alongside Guts and Casca and everyone else watching the show.
Also something genuinely bad and dark has to happen because of this, like say, Casca becoming an apostle, because Guts needs to feel the full weight of betrayal by SK and succumb to the armour. And this will be a heavy painful betrayal because it’s gonna remind Guts of Griffith, because of the way Skull Knight has rescued him in the past and earned his trust. (tbh more on this whenever I get off my ass and write a long meta post about Guts and what his relationship to Griffith means to him.)
But also the power of friendship is going to prevent Guts from going full Beast of Darkness forever the way it’s been suggested that Skull Knight lost his humanity to the armour. Just, god willing, hopefully not before g*tsca is laid to rest.
So. Still think Guts and Casca are pawns, still think the tree and Dragon’s Road thing are relevant, definitely think the behelit’s relevant, and I’m actually pretty confident that the Godhand are coming to Elfhelm and Danann and Skull Knight have this trap waiting for them.
Whether Danann and Skull Knight’s plan is successful is another story entirely. Whether defeating and trapping the Godhand away in the vortex is even a good idea is also another story entirely. And idk whether NeoGriff figures into this at all lol.
Oh also I know the behelit only opens when the laws of causality like, make it happen, but, a) Skull Knight referred to that in that ominous scene where Flora suggests he might be using Guts and it’s not stopping him from maneuvering things into place it’s just giving him a handy excuse b) fate works thru people’s encounters and choices and Danann and Skull Knight and Guts etc are people c) they’re high level magic users a step outside causality maybe they can tell when the behelit’s likely to open and are facilitating that for their own ends or smthn.
Also I know Miura has said he writes on the fly and doesn’t have a plan, but he must have some idea of where things are headed because he has actively been throwing foreshadowing down for 150 chapters. Maybe the details are vague in his mind but I’m quite sure he knows the broadstrokes of the story. Like after all he wrote the entire golden age knowing exactly where it would end up, give or take a few details. I’m willing to bet he’s been planning some Skull Knight shit since Flora’s appearance.
Anyway this is my theory now. I may go about it backwards, ie having a destination I absolutely want and then finding evidence for it, but yk what i want to live in hope until the next chapter so screw it.
griff-guts
replied to your post “but like imagine if danann actually is ~up to something~ when she puts…”
guts and casca are pushed together because on a base level they don’t feel attracted to each other, guts and griffith are pushed apart because they are extremely attracted to each other. classic!!!
berserk is a gay tragedy and this is just more proof
but like imagine if danann actually is ~up to something~ when she puts casca in her romantic dress and pushes her towards guts at which point she immediately (and forseeably by danann, who knows she’s afraid of guts) starts flashbacking
i wouldn’t actually give miura this credit but boy oh boy i would love to take it as commentary on how outside forces have constantly had the role of shoving guts and casca together rather than either of them choosing to pursue each other without prompting, each time leading to some particularly awful consequences
ie judeau’s matchmaking leads to the eclipse, godo telling guts to stop being an asshole and stay with casca leads to him assaulting her (probably would’ve had a better result if guts stayed while the cave was intact and had rickert and erika around to help care for casca, but the way things went it went badly so), and now danann’s matchmaking seems to have lead directly to some kind of negative reaction, the narrative scope of which i guess we’ll eventually find out
liiiiike damn i wish i could believe this was purposeful lol
guts used theresia as a hostage to lure the count into a trap, and he used jill as bait to catch rosine off guard, and those apostles are the two closest parallels to griffith
guts also has his trademark ‘get up close and personal with danger and then struggle his way out’ fight style
so i’m js if guts vs neogriffith does end up coming down to a straightforward physical confrontation, it would be fully thematically satisfying if Berserk was bookended by Guts fucking a blond demon for ‘tactical’ reasons
Sorry about my last question it was all over the place, but I guess what I was trying to say is it will be nice to see what Casca Dream or agenda will be something that doesn’t involve Guts. I don’t understand the fetus than the egg said, let’s die together was that hung already dead and it surprisingly saved it the egg? Anyways, here’s hoping Casca turns evil I mean she looked pissed off when Griffith sacrificed them, unlike Guts who was like “is this what you wanted”.
Oh yeah I see what you mean, and totally agree. Sorry if I misinterpreted your last ask. But yeah my real hope for Casca is to see her with her own goal that’s totally separate from Guts. I still haven’t given up on my dreams of Casca getting angry and fucking shit up.
I don’t get the fetus thing either tbh, everything about it is a hot mess. I don’t think it saved the egg in any way, Eggman was giving up his life to basically hatch NeoGriffith, who grew out of the fetus, but Eggman didn’t know that so he just ate the thing for no reason. lol idk.
speaking of slan, yk for me most of her eclipse entrance is too ott to be sexy but ngl these are the hottest 2 panels in berserk:
even her tits look great and i hate how miura draws tits 90% of the time
[berserk amv] king of the dead
War Of Hearts by Ruelle is a griffguts song in my book
I’m definitely feeling it, ty anon!
When [the destined person] has reached the lowest point in their life,
the BEHELIT will find its way them.
» requested by @gatsca
do i wake or sleep? chapter 6
hooo boy. here comes the real drama
read it on ao3 here
the handy thing about berserk is that if it turns out miura decides to suck after all or if he just never finishes it i’ll always have the self contained story of the black swordsman arc and the golden age to placate me.
if i don’t like the way miura ends berserk then i say chronologically berserk ended when guts walked away from theresia with the count’s behelit with the implication that he’s continuing a cycle of self destruction thru burying your heart and passing that cycle on to the next generation too
and non-chronologically berserk ended on this image after femto lets guts go:
like i’m js this is structurally and thematically p much perfect and always will be.
tbh my biggest mistake was not putting ‘she’s so high above me’ on my mostly cheesy pop griffith fanmix
kissing-monsters
replied to your post “what would you think if berserk ended like devilman did ?”
That’s like a highly ideal ending honestly, the Griffith kills Guts and then it ends on him having a Real Emotion and it’s all terrible
yeah i feel like it’d be the perfect blend of tragic yet satisfying for me. even moreso if Guts does that thing he does where he lets himself be stabbed because he’s full of guilt and mixed feelings. like say, if he finds out ngriff hasn’t completely lost his human emotions beforehand and actually failed his emotion test on the hill of swords…
a griffguts playlist
A lot of these encompass more than just the moment I chose to illustrate them but yk, w/e. Also these are all my own choices – if someone else suggested it to me first or I found it on a Berserk playlist it’s disqualified lol. So there are a lot of great songs I skipped over, but you can find those suggestions in my music tag.
we made a connection
a full on chemical reaction
brought by dark divine intervention
yeah you are a shining light
All For Myself – Sufjan Stevens
improving all the time i am
improving as i kiss the hem
i promise i won’t be a trouble at all
This Must Be The Place – Talking Heads
and you’re standing here beside me
i love the passing of time
never for money, always for love
i just gotta get off my chest
that i think you’re divine
you’re always ahead of the rest
while i drag behind
Almost Time To Go – Jason Webley
look at all you’ve gathered, all you own
hold it in your hand – does it weigh more than a single feather?
if the things you feel outsmart the things you know
it’s almost time, it’s almost time to go
i would give everything just for a taste
but everything’s here all out of place
losing my memory, saving my face
well i love you
and i want you
but that doesn’t mean i’ll stay
Without You I’m Nothing – Placebo ft David Bowie
i take the plan, spin it sideways
i fall
without you, i’m nothing
he’s all she needs and ever wanted
she calls out again
won’t you shine tonight
in the face of the light
with you on my mind i can make it through
make it through the night
all night
like a child
i stayed up to prove
i could keep up with you
somebody lied
but i say it’s hip to be alive
now your smile is spreading thin
seems you’re trying not to lose
since i’m not supposed to grin
all you’ve got to do is win
The Night – School of Seven Bells
oh our meeting lit a fuse in my heart
devoured me, devoured me
I’m Going To Stop Pretending That I Didn’t Break Your Heart – Eels
you see i never thought enough of myself to realize
that losing me could mean something like the tears in your eyes
the color of my blood is all i see on the rocks
as you sail from me
alarms will ring for eternity
the waves will break every chain on me
this corridor is dark and long
displaying all that i’ve done wrong
i realize the past is gone
now i need to learn to carry on
Because of You – Skunk Anansie
because of you
because of love
i feel nothing
i know that i am someone
no one said i was, no one said i was, no one said i was
thrown away, have i been thrown away
Divided – Snot ft Brandon Boyd
the only shell who could
circumvent the tide
sheds of himself that tells us what he knows
and a piece of him will stay when the rest of him goes
and my heart is such a mess
and i feel that i am possessed
i want to be your friend
once he’s in he can’t go back
he’ll beat his wings til he burns them black
no the moth don’t care when he sees the flame
You’ll Follow Me Down – Skunk Anansie
cause i don’t want you to forgive me
you’ll follow me down, you’ll follow me down
Touch – Daft Punk ft Paul Williams
a tourist in a dream
a visitor it seems
a half forgotten song
i went to places where i could forget your name
i can’t find anything except a void inside
bonus: AU where things went okay
i want to reconcile the violence in your heart
i want to recognize your beauty’s not just a mask
i want to exorcise the demons from your past
i want to satisfy the undisclosed desires in your heart
when you think the night has seen your mind
that inside you’re twisted and unkind
let me stand to show that you are blind
please put down your hands
Casca will once again ruin things, anyone saying her and Farnese will be friends have it wrong! The explosive personality that Casca has and her reaction seeing strangers except Guts will be excited to see, she will go all out maybe it’s time she held back, Casca seeing Charlotte that slept with Griffith she was holding back, Casca being frustrated that Guts meant more to Griffith than she did, Casca feeling worthless that she had to be saved by Guts once again ! Casca will blame GUTS again !
This is hard to respond to because I feel like for some reason you don’t want any of this to happen and this is coming from a place of disliking these aspects of Casca’s character, whereas I’m reading this ask and (aside from definitely wanting her and Farnese to be friends or at least have a strong connection and definitely not wanting Casca to return to basic jealousy of Guts and Griffith’s relationship for what should be obvious reasons) going “god I hope so.”
Please let Miura remember how angry Casca could be, how volatile she is, how righteously angry and pettily angry and resentful she could be. I’d love to see her blame Guts for everything he’s responsible for and even things he’s not responsible for. I’d love her to remember how Guts “rescued” her and instead of feeling like she owes him yet again, to hate him for it and to take her 3 years of forced passivity out on him.
Also Casca was right to blame Guts the first time so I can’t like, relate to your vehemence here. Her reasons might’ve been petty and her murderous tirade might’ve been unwarranted, but she was still spot on when she said his decision to leave the Hawks destroyed Griffith. She even told him outright that Griffith needs him beforehand too, he just refused to believe her.
Guts needed to be told how important he is to Griffith and the major tragedy of the Golden Age is that he still didn’t fucking accept that information until it was too late because Casca backed off after stabbing him and then they had sex, letting Guts avoid realizing how incredibly wrong he was about his relationship with Griffith for a few more days.
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