idk tho in say an au where like, guts never overheard the promrose hall speech and they made it to tombstone of flame i could see griffith reaching a point where he’d be able to accept his own feelings
“do you think that i’m cruel” is just so like, emotionally vulnerable. he was totally getting there, to like, yk, being more honest w/ himself
and then you have him crying after charlotte which is also an emotional admittance
so it’s not like i exaggerate his ability to deny shit to himself (well maybe i do but i love that so fuck it) but i may not give him enough credit for occasional moments of honestly
then again that’s short term. it’s one thing to say griffith could throw care to the wind in the heat of the moment and have emotionally intense sex, it’s another thing to think he could live with himself knowing he’d rather have guts + love than charlotte + dream
on the other hand there’s no reason he has to think of it that way since there’s no reason he can’t have both. like… in theory there’s a perfectly legit berserk au where griffith and guts hooked up and griffith still became king, successfully having his cake and eating it too
so idk maybe if he got with guts it wouldn’t be so much denying that he values guts more than his dream as just dismissing that as irrelevant bc he’ll just get both
So much good fic has tones of both. Analyzers have some of the best fic ideas, and good fic is based on examining the source. Idk man ydy bc whatever it is it’s hella good shit.
But like Guts gets such puppy eyes sometimes when he’s sad, like after the Primrose Hall speech. Imagine Griffith withdrawing emotionally (and physically) after sex and Guts just not being able to contain his sad confused expressions?? (Let’s be real he was basically just a rlly sad puppy throughout the entire Golden Age.)
Idk man let’s be real would Griffith be able to shut out those unintentionally honest and sad puppy eyes?
Yeah v true, a lot of my favourite fics are rly analytical lol. and ty!
omggg I can just see it. I think that would actually be more devastating than the promrose hall speech for Guts. Like Griffith’s speech was impersonal, Guts felt inadequate but decided he could change to fit Griffith’s definition of a friend and then everything would be fine. But a much more personal rejection after the most intimate he’s ever been with anyone would really fuck him up.
Though I guess it would depend on how obvious Griffith was about withdrawing. Like if it was a full on rejection as he tries to re-orient himself back around his dream I could see Guts basically cutting and running in a fit of self loathing (or self destructing a la Griffith but in some other more Guts-y way); if it was just becoming more distant that would also fuck Guts up but like, more slowly over time rather than immediately. Maybe the 2nd one is better bc there’s more room for puppy dog eyes that way lol.
I pray there be happy worlds where Griffith had a moment of self awareness and realized he was about to seriously hurt Guts. Imo he doesn’t have the courage to admit he loves Guts, but he’s even less capable of letting something hurt Guts.
like they wouldn’t work everything out in a single heartfelt night, but before things went to hell Griffith was showing some real emotional openness.
Oh yeah I don’t think like, it’s inevitable that a sexual encounter between them is going to end in tears. I think this is just one plausible possibility. Bc yeah especially w/ Tombstone of Flame, Griffith was getting a lot more open. And def, I could totally see Griffith immediately regretting a negative reaction when he sees how hurt Guts is.
Like my Official Statement™ on griffguts as a potential couple
(yk like basically what I think Berserk genuinely suggests, at least according to my interpretation lol)
is that they would’ve worked, and without Promrose Hall the trajectory of their relationship was headed straight for both finding exactly what they each want and need most in the other. I actually totally think that if he had to, Griffith would choose Guts over the dream and would eventually be able to live with that.
But there’s also so much gr8 potential for drama lol, it’s hard to resist.
lol ya, i’ve been tryna figure out for years if guts can read but all evidence points to negative 😦
lol i’m glad someone else is also invested in whether guts can read or not. it makes the most sense that he wouldn’t be able to considering like, his entire life, but now that i’ve thought of the whole late nights with griffith thing… damn missed opportunity there
the first bubble is guts asking “wicker man?”, the second is
schierke responding by saying shes read about it – the little tail on the
second bubble points towards her. we see guts looking at the contents
of a book in vargas’ house in black swordsman arc, but who knows if he
was actually reading it or not. imo theres no way guts can read unless
griff taught him lol, altho im sure he can understand basic stuff like road signs n whatnot
oh shit you’re right i didn’t notice it was two separate bubbles. the phrasing is def v scherike but i was assuming that was a fan translation problem lol
hm both glad bc that would’ve been weird, but also disappointed bc i was kind of into the idea of guts knowing this particular random fact
and ok one more thing about this part
this is actually pretty damn non-wholesome, to the extent that i’m kind of surprised none of the characters were like, ‘wait a second this oppressively cutesy place attacked us with a giant cage full of the trapped spirits of people they burned alive to power it’
like it just kind of happened completely without commentary or attention drawn to it, and lbr it’s berserk so it can get away with that
but also i’m happily filing it away as strong evidence that elfhelm is more than capable of being fucked up. like, magic drawing power from the lives of sacrificed people eh? where’ve we seen that before?
ok wait a second tho
is fucking guts the one explaining magic here
i mean ok I actually completely buy that guts could’ve learned this while trying to figure out how the behelit works by researching sacrificial magic, that’s actually a pretty clever character note, but let’s be real there’s no way guts can read
or maybe this is a mistranslation (this isn’t official after all) and it should be ‘heard of them’ or ‘learned about them’ or smthn. or maybe miura just doesn’t gaf. or maybe griffith taught him to read during their three years together over the course of many, many intimate late night lessons. actually yeah let’s go with that
ETA ok nvm i didn’t notice it was 2 separate speech bubbles. still tho… would’ve had some interesting implications
idk tho in say an au where like, guts never overheard the promrose hall speech and they made it to tombstone of flame i could see griffith reaching a point where he’d be able to accept his own feelings
“do you think that i’m cruel” is just so like, emotionally vulnerable. he was totally getting there, to like, yk, being more honest w/ himself
and then you have him crying after charlotte which is also an emotional admittance
so it’s not like i exaggerate his ability to deny shit to himself (well maybe i do but i love that so fuck it) but i may not give him enough credit for occasional moments of honestly
then again that’s short term. it’s one thing to say griffith could throw care to the wind in the heat of the moment and have emotionally intense sex, it’s another thing to think he could live with himself knowing he’d rather have guts + love than charlotte + dream
on the other hand there’s no reason he has to think of it that way since there’s no reason he can’t have both. like… in theory there’s a perfectly legit berserk au where griffith and guts hooked up and griffith still became king, successfully having his cake and eating it too
so idk maybe if he got with guts it wouldn’t be so much denying that he values guts more than his dream as just dismissing that as irrelevant bc he’ll just get both
So much good fic has tones of both. Analyzers have some of the best fic ideas, and good fic is based on examining the source. Idk man ydy bc whatever it is it’s hella good shit.
But like Guts gets such puppy eyes sometimes when he’s sad, like after the Primrose Hall speech. Imagine Griffith withdrawing emotionally (and physically) after sex and Guts just not being able to contain his sad confused expressions?? (Let’s be real he was basically just a rlly sad puppy throughout the entire Golden Age.)
Idk man let’s be real would Griffith be able to shut out those unintentionally honest and sad puppy eyes?
Yeah v true, a lot of my favourite fics are rly analytical lol. and ty!
omggg I can just see it. I think that would actually be more devastating than the promrose hall speech for Guts. Like Griffith’s speech was impersonal, Guts felt inadequate but decided he could change to fit Griffith’s definition of a friend and then everything would be fine. But a much more personal rejection after the most intimate he’s ever been with anyone would really fuck him up.
Though I guess it would depend on how obvious Griffith was about withdrawing. Like if it was a full on rejection as he tries to re-orient himself back around his dream I could see Guts basically cutting and running in a fit of self loathing (or self destructing a la Griffith but in some other more Guts-y way); if it was just becoming more distant that would also fuck Guts up but like, more slowly over time rather than immediately. Maybe the 2nd one is better bc there’s more room for puppy dog eyes that way lol.
idk tho in say an au where like, guts never overheard the promrose hall speech and they made it to tombstone of flame i could see griffith reaching a point where he’d be able to accept his own feelings
“do you think that i’m cruel” is just so like, emotionally vulnerable. he was totally getting there, to like, yk, being more honest w/ himself
and then you have him crying after charlotte which is also an emotional admittance
so it’s not like i exaggerate his ability to deny shit to himself (well maybe i do but i love that so fuck it) but i may not give him enough credit for occasional moments of honestly
then again that’s short term. it’s one thing to say griffith could throw care to the wind in the heat of the moment and have emotionally intense sex, it’s another thing to think he could live with himself knowing he’d rather have guts + love than charlotte + dream
on the other hand there’s no reason he has to think of it that way since there’s no reason he can’t have both. like… in theory there’s a perfectly legit berserk au where griffith and guts hooked up and griffith still became king, successfully having his cake and eating it too
so idk maybe if he got with guts it wouldn’t be so much denying that he values guts more than his dream as just dismissing that as irrelevant bc he’ll just get both
friends w benefits griffguts is so funny and also terrible lmao
@griff-guts said:
griff: me n guts are
friends w benefits but sometimes after sex he holds me and i fall asleep
in his arms and my chest feels really warm…. and when we don’t cuddle
after sex i get rly sad and hate myself….. but we’re just friends lol
it’s all just meaningless sex for fun!!!
i can’t think of a ship less able to handle it lmao, this is so real.
(and bc i’m still having Thoughts on potential terrible relationship outcomes lol: I feel like griffith would overcompensate and get rly cold and aloof which would terrify guts bc he needs affection and affirmation. like i can’t see griffith maintaining his canon level of regard for guts while adding sex to the mix it would be too Obvious and hard to deny how he really feels. and then guts would back off similarly which would freak griffith out and it would freak him out that he’s freaked out and it would just be off the charts self loathing all around)
like in canon griffith could only admit he loves guts after losing his dream bc before that admitting it is basically making a conscious choice between guts and his dream, and choosing guts
and idk how he’d react to that but idt it would be peaceful acceptance
(tho i think you could make a case that he would tell himself he’s only physically attracted to guts and try to nsa sex it. which would just be an incredible trainwreck)
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I’m going to lay out some visuals here real quick bc I just noticed another good detail lol
Griffith on a black background, Guts on a white background. Light and dark, connection and loneliness, and Guts as Griffith’s last connection to humanity before he’s carried up into darkness.
Guts and Griffith brightly lit in contrast to the surrounding darkness as they clutch each others’ hands, because this is what they are to each other. Their connection is what illuminates the darkness, what staves off loneliness.
Guts is both the source of Griffith’s despair and the only thing capable of preventing him from succumbing to it. “He was the reason I’ve been thrown into this darkness and now he’s the sole sustenance keeping me alive.” Same kinda thing.
Guts falling away, lit in comparsion to Griffith blending in with the background. Griffith losing that light.
These pages are just a great illustration of Guts and Griffith as each others’ brightest things, and what they lose when they give up each other.
the combination of griffith’s casual pose, one hand hanging onto a tree branch, one hand in his pocket, and the fact that he’s crying in a tree outside Charlotte’s window is amazing and rly sums griffith up as a character lol
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