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As a sacrificial offering for the Invocation of Doom, not just any lump of flesh and blood will do. It must be someone important to you, part of your soul… someone so close to you that it’s almost like giving up a part of you.

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“How do you like it? Isn’t it splendid? … Griffith is the best model I’ve ever met.” BERSERK X TOMIE (Junji Ito) 

LMAO I forgot to post this when I finished it like, literally a week ago. I wanted to draw more gore, so I thought to combine two of my favourite series into one for a light crossover. This is also a review piece on how I see his character after seeing so much imagery of his outer beauty. Thinking about it brought this, and also made me think deeply about the painter arc in general in Tomie. 

do you plan to make a big guts meta? if yes how many arcs would it cover. love your metas.

Thank you!

Hmm I sort of do have a plan for a more extensive Guts-centric post, though I don’t think it would be as long as the Griffith one. Though like the Griffith one it would be largely about Guts’ dream and his relationship with Griffith.

And it would probably cover Black Swordsman – right before the Eclipse, with a shorter, more critical section or maybe follow up post on everything from the Eclipse on, because honestly I want to sit down and really hash out exactly how the Eclipse fails to knock down the thematic pins Miura had set up. Like even up to the Wyald chapters he has this perfect set-up going on, and then imo he mostly fails to utilize it during and after the Eclipse, and I keep kind of talking about it on my blog lol but only in broad strokes, I want to dig into it.

BUT that said most of it would be talking about how great Guts’ narrative is in the first two arcs, I wouldn’t let the criticism overwhelm it. And who knows, I might catch more interesting details when I look over everything again with this in mind and end up less critical than expected.

sad thing about black swordsman arc is that i liked what miura was going for in the first place (guts motives for revenge, evil fetus being a metaphor) also they were actually ~deeper~ than emasculating guts. miura making g*tsca happen for the drama ruined it. also it made berserk kinda mediocre lol

Yeah I really feel like the Eclipse just, hugely cheapened just about everything that was interesting about Guts in the Black Swordsman arc by putting all the focus on a) how someone else’s pain affects Guts and b) like you said, the suggested emasculation of Guts watching someone else give his girlfriend an orgasm. And that might be seen as an uncharitable take on the scene lol but Casca’s arousal seriously is the central visual focus, and it’s what the rape scene builds up to, and it remains all about Guts’ feelings, and it’s so simultaneously offensive and just… cheap and boring.

It straight up mystifies me how Miura decided to add g*tsca for more Eclipse drama (ie the rape scene) and somehow didn’t realize that not only does the Eclipse not require any additional drama, but it overwrites the actual drama the Eclipse should’ve had as a personally traumatizing event to Guts. It’s just so frustrating lmao.

Wrt the fetus you can kind of tilt your head and still see it as a symbol for the futility of revenge – in hindsight now it’s more like a haunting reminder of Guts abandoning Casca – but it doesn’t work nearly as well because in the BS arc it’s visually depicted as a representation of like, Guts’ own inner demon – the pathetic monstrousness left when revenge consumes the rest of you.

So you have things like Guts’ nightmare where it’s chasing him which is echoed in his chapter 13 nightmare where it’s Donovan chasing him, and then echoed again in his vision after killing Adonis where it’s Zodd/Donovan/himself. How’s that supposed to work thematically if the fetus is a symbol of a relationship/his humanity lmao? Or the vision Guts had of the fetus with Vargas’ face?

And I mean I love the Beast of Darkness bc i’m easy for evil dark sides lol, but honestly the vibe the fetus had in the BS arc was better, because of that patheticness. It wasn’t cool, it wasn’t powerful, it was just sad, like the Vargas parallels.

Anyway ty for this ask and giving me an opportunity to complain some more, I’m glad you agree.

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“Когда человек испытывает страдание, способное разорвать его напополам, его сердце замерзает.

“When a person experiences suffering capable of tearing him in half, his heart freezes over.”

is it bad that i want guts’ new party to die (well except casca)??? like no offense but i’m so sick of this found family rpg shit and miura has failed to make me care about any of the new characters. also isidro and puck are so damn annoying. i miss old gritty berserk and i also miss miura’s old art style :///

lol no, I know I’d cheer if half the rpg group died. I mean I’m fond of Farnese, Serpico, and Puck when he’s not interacting with Isidro, and it would be ridiculous and terrible if Casca died after everything, but everyone else could be horribly killed off next update and I’d be overjoyed. I’m dying for a dark shake up of Guts’ narrative, and I have virtually no emotional attachment to anyone except the characters I listed.

And even the ones I do like I’d be willing to sacrifice for the sake of more of what I love about Berserk, ie grimdark violence, characters making disastrous choices because that grimdark violence has meaningfully impacted them, and homoeroticism.

The Godhand have always been shady, I mean Griffith and one up them by killing them for killing his precious army .. They cornered him and he was at his most vulnerable I was surprised how fast he was convinced lol. I knew the bastard wanted his “me kingdom ” but damn he didn’t hesitate. Godhand using Griffith to get Guts sounds more plausible honestly Griffith is a puppet.

I’m not really sure what you mean by your first sentence, sorry. Otherwise, idk I think it’s surprising how much convincing it took Griffith to make the sacrifice, like, I would’ve completely understood and still found him sympathetic if he took the Godhand up on their offer instantly lol and instead it took a chapter and a half of manipulative guilt tripping.

Also the Godhand don’t seem to care much about Guts as an enemy so idk if they’re really plotting against him, but calling Griffith is a puppet of the Idea of Evil/Fate/whatever does seem accurate. Maybe even Void too, he seems like he could be scheming something.

what do you think of the 2016 berserk anime?

lol i haven’t watched it. i’ve seen i think the first few episodes from the second season – hill of swords to the fight outside flora’s house iirc – and I feel like that’s more than enough for me.

it brings nothing new to the table as far as i can tell (well, i’ll give them the sexy soulful sax music while guts contemplates griffith’s ass, that was a bold and exciting choice) and everything about it varies from lacklustre to immensely disappointing in execution.

also i respect wanting to adapt a part of berserk that isn’t the golden age but when the fuck am i gonna get to see the black swordsman arc animated??? that should be priority number one i m h o

ALSO ngriff getting sacrificed by guts could be like… depicted as a contrast between the hawks and the godhand, how he exchanged one family for another, because the godhand would find that hilarious and presumably they would be the ones to kill him, or enable monster guts to kill him as per the sacrifice, or whatever. so yk it also harks back to what griffith gave up when he sacrificed the hawks.

what would you like to change in berserk? actually im asking how the story would work without using rape as a plot device but also in general (characterization, plot etc.)

Ooh this is an interesting question, ty!

I wouldn’t change either Guts or Griffith’s backstories tbh, I think they’re actually pretty well done, and important to their characters and narratives without being the be all end all. Well, I’d like to make Gennon less of an evil gay stereotype and Donovan less of a scary black man stereotype but yk, other than those details the existence of rape in their backstories isn’t something I’d change.

With Casca… tough call. Her story is all about gendered violence to the point where if you got rid of the rape attempts you’d have to come up with a whole new story for her. But it’s still a shallower and less well-rounded depiction of abuse than either guts or griffith’s backstories, bc it’s so emphatically gendered, like, rather than informing her personality or her choices it’s just framed as being a woman.

So actually I guess for Casca what I’d change is (actually pretty obviously lol) her motivations. She’s not in love with Griffith, she idealizes his dream because she knows he wants to dismantle those power structures that fuck her over and create a place where those w/ power can’t easily abuse their power over others. She hates Guts not because she’s jealous of him (tho she could still be jealous of his emotional closeness with Griffith, like she’d still admire Griffith here even if she’s not in love with him and I like that rival dynamic), but because she recognizes that he could end up destroying Griffith’s dream.

Also I think we can still cut out most of the rape threats she gets while still showing that she has something to fight against. Maybe keep Adon being a gross dick (in all fairness he kind of mirrors Gennon towards Griffith which kind of shows how they’re fighting for the same dream – ie a world where those kinds of dudes are shut down) but have Casca just fighting for her life rather than against rape attempts as she runs from the 100 man fight.

So nothing really changes much until Guts comes back from his vacation. And now Casca is genuinely, genuinely angry and hateful towards him, because he did exactly what she’s been afraid he was going to do – destroyed Griffith’s dream, and her hope for a better future.

Which means they don’t have sex lol, Casca was never into Guts, they began a friendship towards the end of the war but nothing more. And now that Guts has come back Casca is actively hostile to him, though after Guts lets her stab him she probably forgives him a bit bc it’s not like he intended to destroy absolutely everything, and he’s clearly fucked up about it.

Also no suicide attempt.

So their dynamic during the rescue mission is resentful allies, like a throwback to their first three years knowing each other.

Wyald still happens but no attempted rape w/ Casca obviously.

Now when it comes to the Eclipse, I want it to be all about Guts, and I want it to hit the audience over the head with parallels to his childhood. It’s the Eclipse, it doesn’t need to be subtle. Rather than looking wistful when Griffith sacrifices everyone, I want Guts to look betrayed, I want him to look just as sad and horrified as he did when he was 11 and Gambino told him he sold him to Donovan.

Agh I’d hate to lose the creepy silent monster vibe from Femto, but something like a cold, “you’re still alive?” would be v fitting w/ the “you should have died” parallels. Tho idk I’m torn on that.

And ok I said I want it to be all about Guts but I can’t just kill off Casca. But if she’s gonna live the Eclipse needs some serious personal meaning for her too. So maybe her reaction to being sacrificed, knowing it’s for the dream she’s dedicated her life to and in theory she should be willing to give her life for it, and trying to reconcile that with the horrificness of the situation and her desperate desire to survive anyway. So she survives long enough for Femto to show up, because she’s not the third best fighter in the Hawks for nothing, and then…

torture? Femto has monsters hold Guts down and tortures Casca in a way reminiscent of a kid pulling the wings off a fly. She loses an arm, Guts keeps his because he’s too busy being utterly terrified and possibly flashbacking to hack his own arm off in a rage.

Like, one thing about the Eclipse rape, is that if Miura had to have it as a way of emotionally affecting Guts, how the fuck did he manage to draw like two chapters of awful awful shit with Guts being held down by monsters that he’d just watched rape Casca, and completely fail to allude to Guts’ own rape trauma? How. Hooooow it’s mind boggling. It’s absurd.

But you don’t even need the graphic rape for that, like hell, Miura has absolutely adequately set up the correlation between giant monsters Guts is compelled to fight and his own childhood trauma imo to justify Guts having a very emotional traumatic reaction to just being held down and made helpless by monsters after being essentially given to them.

There’s Black Swordsman Guts in a nutshell, and this is exactly what was implied to have caused him to go full traumatized amoral asshole. Before g*tsca was a gleam in Miura’s eye all he had were those parallels to Guts’ childhood trauma – Guts being given away to monsters by someone he trusted – and that’s all he needed.

So anyway, because Casca lives, she has her own reaction to being casually tortured by Femto before being rescued, which is also a replay of her childhood trauma but without the agency of killing her attacker herself with a sword. So her reaction could very well be similar to Guts’ – a desire to kill monsters and get revenge. Maybe she’s lost her idealism wrt the dream, and she’s more cynical now – a better world is impossible, best you can do is survive this one.

She and Guts go their separate ways because they’re barely friends, let alone lovers, and remember 2 brands = big ghost problems.

After this the narrative splits 3 ways between NGriff, Guts, and Casca.

I’m reaching the limits of my creativity lol. So I’m just gonna suggest that Guts gets the behelit, Casca gets the armour and the rpg group, Casca gets the moving on arc and hooks up with Farnese while maybe finding a happy medium between changing the world and lashing out against the world, and Guts succumbs to his inner darkness and gets a highly emotional confrontation with Griffith. Since he has the behelit maybe he uses it upon realizing that Griffith’s heart is still beating for him, bc the emotional conflict is just too much, and sacrifices Griffith to become a Zodd-esque apostle wandering battlefields and fighting for no reason, basically returned to his pre-Griffith state.

It’s probably shorter than 355 chapters too lbr. I’d say NGriff creates Falconia right before the confrontation with Guts, so yk he achieves his dream b4 ironically getting sacrificed. Otherwise his story doesn’t change much. Maybe stronger suggestions that he’s not as unemotional as he looks, to build up to a guts confrontation better.

Like… I’m not a very creative or good writer lol but I feel this general outline could be written in a very good and satisfying way by someone with talent, like Miura.

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i love the 97 backgrounds and a lot of the colour choices. and the soundtrack ofc!

ooh yeah ia. like eg i like the red eclipse as opposed to the purple.

YES and like the behelit and griffith’s eyes and so many scenery scenes

actually i’m bored so don’t mind if i post some of my fav screencaps here. super image heavy below the cut, might break your computer like for real

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