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actually nvm isidro, i think out of all recurring characters moonlight kid might be my least fave. he shows up, acts mysterious and overly cute, saves guts’ ass over and over, and teases the idea of family (total personal opinion here but i hate when protags have children and bond with them. no idea why, just gives me hives. my desire to see my faves as loving parents is in the negatives.)

like demon fetus was a way of giving a protagonist a child that i approve of – fucked up weird monster thing that creeps guts out and then gets eaten by a talking egg, cool. nhf it being replaced by this ridiculously cutesy precocious magical kid.

ofc i’ll happily revise this opinion if we learn more and it turns out he’s a red herring after all or a precursor to tragedy or hell i’ll even accept him being the magic soul of guts and casca’s demon fetus if it’s proof that griffith’s feelings are all his own. but til then i’m :/ when he shows up.

kellez69:

Do you wanna know who I hope Casca is wanting to see? Herself. I want her to see how strong of a woman she is, I want her to see how powerful she can be, I want her to see herself in true form. I hope up there waiting for her is an even stronger version of her previous self. I hope that she does what is best for her, not Guts, not Farnese, not anyone else but her. I hope she comes back full force and falls in love with herself for the first time. I just really hope good things happen to this poor girl. But I’m probably asking for too much.

do you think there’s any parallels between guts and griffith’s relationship and farneze and serpico’s?

mastermistressofdesire:

Oh yeah.

Oh hell yeah.

There’s definitely some moments between Farnese and Serpico  which personally appear to me as echoes of golden age dynamics between Guts and Griffith, the wording in some cases seeming similar enough to almost  seem like an intentional parallel.

But the parallels are also not extremely consistent ,especially in the frequent exchanging of the respective roles within the dynamic between Farnese and Serpico. In some cases it’s almost more of a twisting around of the original than a parallel. Taking into account that despite the similarities that I will go into in a moment, these are four very distinct characters.

The instance which immediately comes to mind when you say parallel is the instance when Farnese asks Serpico if he hates her. It’s very similar to Griffth’s- “You must think me vile.” moment.

There’s some other Farnese- Griffith parallels.

1. Using Control over specific people to deal with their feelings of loneliness or helplessness. Referring to Serpico/ Guts as property is a big part of this ,as is the fact that despite saying it neither of them actually mean it.

2. Farnese/Griffith starting as the commander, owner.

3.Self-flagellation

4. Guts love.

5.There’s actually some deeper things which I will come back to most probably.

6. A slight similarity in visual design.

7. Oh and them being turned on by very fucked up things and having some rather strange interpretations of sexuality and ending up in bizarre sexual situations.

the Guts-Serpico parallels come from them both being the concerned right  hand men to these slightly volatile people.

there’s Griffith and Serpico parallels in this sort of veiled intensity and ruthlessness behind a calm facade. not to mention similar fighting styles.

And the fact that both of them are very single mindedly focussed on their goals which if interfered with make them prone to homicide. With Griffth it was the castle ( or so he thought) with serpico it’s protecting Farnese (or so he thinks)

and the Guts and Farnese parallel in that both of them start with being unsure of what their place is in the world and start to try the road to discovering themselves .

With Farnese/Griffith parallels I could also see a potential argument that they both rely on extreme adherence to a conviction as a defense mechanism. With Farnese it was her religion, with Griffith it’s his dream. I wonder if seeing the origins of how Farnese found her conviction could actually shed light on how Griffith came to hold the dream above all else tbh. yk, fear and wanting to become what’s feared. but that’s just un-backed-up speculation.

(also for point 7: what “very fucked up things” are you referring to that turn Griffith on? is that more of a Femto reference or am I completely forgetting something?)

i think the only thing i like about the sea god arc is guts himself cus he looks a lot handsomer in this arc plus we get to see his astral body in the berserker armor a lot more which is dope cus it’s looks like werewolf motif. but other than that the sea god arc drags on and honestly i got kinda bored reading it but i read time to time but not much

but i see you are almost to gut’s flashback chapters which i love- this
showed that despite all the shit guts went through, he still has a kind
heart, especially towards kids(as we see with isdoro,rickert,erica,jill
and schierke). The art is very good and very nice to look at. all in all
this arc is short but i think adds a little bit more to guts as a
character. idk i just love it 

re: the sea god stuff, yeah that’s fair, i’m not into guts myself  but i can see the appeal, esp with that streak of white in his hair lol. and I do love the astral plane werewolf look.

and yesss honestly i’ve never wanted to hug a character more than teenage guts when he was determined to save that damn flower, omg.

@jyuanka said: i think it’s about guts stacking up allies, in this case, the sirens

yeah good point. plus it does straightforwardly depict some changes brought about by griffith breaking the world and how it’s not just branded sacrifices who have to deal with all this crap now.

it’s just so loooong lol

@mastermistressofdesire said:
Oscar is pretty
explicitly bisexual in canon, at least it appeared pretty explicit to me
while watching it. But then again I tend to read characters as gayer
than a lot of other people do. But RoV is gaaaaaay 

nice nice nice. i also read characters as gayer than most other people do so this will probably work for me.

@captainfinishingmove said:  …But Guts was sexually abused as a child. That’s why he doesn’t like being touched

i’m not sure if this is a reply to me directly or one of the comments on that post, but i did say “neither sexually assaulted the other” not neither were sexually assaulted period.

gatsca:

gatsca:

Catch me writin berserk fanfic where the behelit is for theresia

Okay but rlly guts got it from her dad, her life mission is to kill guts, whats gonna happen when shes trained for years and hunted this man down and finds herself unable?? behelit slips out from gutss pocket somehow, wow, what an accident, whoops, what-
It wouldnt actually go well for her bc like guts is much better at killing apostles than he is girls but he already failed to actually land a killing blow on rosine… so like… imagine the summed emotional toll

@yoikami said
Farnese is precious to me, idc about people hating her 😚 

i used to be more indifferent to her but i’ve seriously fallen in love on this re-read, she’s wonderful

yoikami said:
Are you looking too much into this because i love it 

reading too much into stuff is my modus operandi tbh, it wouldn’t be any fun otherwise lol

farnese-de-vandimion:

bthump:

 @jyuanka 
said: a part of me wants
roderick to play a bigger role and help move the plot forward through
being a good character but the other part of me wants him to become an
asshole or to have some hidden secret (i mean we all know what pretty
boys in this series turn out to be *cough* griffith *cough*)

i didn’t really think of it before but we never found out what his schemy plan with magnifico was, did we?

so you might be onto something.

To be honest I don’t want Roderick to be a fake nice guy, but at the same time…

Is it me or does he sound kinda annoyed by Farnese’s antics?

hmmmmm

tbh roderick being a fake nice guy and fucking with farnese’s feelings for personal gain or whatever could be a little trite, but ngl i’m down for just about anything that points to more future reactions and character growth for farnese. (not that she’s been short of that, just that i love it so much and i want her to keep being an important evolving character for as long as possible)

my bro gave me a weird but somewhat intriguing concept: the godhand gives Griffith a choice to sacrifice…but he gets to choose two persons closes to him to be his “apostle companions” he of course chose guts and casca and they get a transformation(painful mind you) and they become apostles but they are more powerful than regular apostles?? idk he just gave that concept and honestly it sounds awesome guts with a dog/wolf form and casca prolly a lioness/or cheetah with incredible speed

AU where everyone joins the dark side and takes over the world, lol. this reminds me of rosine trying to turn jill into an extra powerful “elf” a little.

 @jyuanka 
said: a part of me wants
roderick to play a bigger role and help move the plot forward through
being a good character but the other part of me wants him to become an
asshole or to have some hidden secret (i mean we all know what pretty
boys in this series turn out to be *cough* griffith *cough*)

i didn’t really think of it before but we never found out what his schemy plan with magnifico was, did we?

so you might be onto something.

also yk i answered an ask a few days ago about whether guts’ rpg group is gonna die with a long winded ‘nah i doubt it’ bc we’ve spent too much time dveloping them just to kill them off to move the story along

but tbf magnifico, roderick, and isma absolutely could all be convenient canon fodder rn, since we don’t know much about any of them and we’re only given the shallowest reasons to care about them (magnifico is farnese’s brother, roderick is her fiance and fairly cool and nice, and isma is secretly a mermaid or whatever)

(also if farnese gets close to roderick at all, maybe has a quick couple-chapter thing of letting go of her crush on guts and getting to know him as her fiance, it would be kind of great if he died to make her sad and motivated. i’ve speculated about farnese dying to motivate serpico but this is better.)

omg a cute au where roderick is crushing hard on guts and he goes to farnese for advice. he tries to follow it but he messes up cus guts is so pretty and handsome. guts knows about it but he acts like he don’t

one last thing since i keep blowing up your messages: farnese goes to
take a bath and sees casca washing herself and sees her “assets”.
farnese is like red since she is blushing so hard and is internally  
screaming. casca notices her and asks her can she scrub her back for
her. farnese is like “oh god yes” but she corrects her self and agrees
to do it. she spends the rest of the bath looking at casca’s beautiful
figure 

1. lol I think Farnese would be terrible at relationship advice, but yk that could make for some gr8 comedy.

2. well considering how much bath related fanservice there is already between them in canon it would be criminal not to include some in the Black Swordswoman AU or whatever we’re calling it, so good.

Here’s a happy though: Casca acting like a legit big sister to Farnese, teaching Farnese how to use a dagger and a sword, not even waiting to go get her back after Farnese gets them a boat, putting Roderick through the wringer because no random sailor is gonna get her girl so easily.

Omg I want this so much you have no idea. Give or take the sisterly part, lol, but man regardless of the potential romance or not, the idea of Casca being a mentor to budding warrior Farnese is so so good. Imagine them sparring together, Farnese absolutely determined to disarm Casca eventually, like, yes. And lmao at her giving Roderick hell and low-key tormenting him for being Farnese’s fiancee. She would, and i love it.

trulyhumblenarcissist:

bthump:

@trulyhumblenarcissist yeah I’m thinking this is getting too long so I’m going to reply as a new post and just link the previous thread.

also maybe read mores this time just in case we keep going on at length back and forth like before

Continua a leggere

Well, as for Farnese and Casca I do like their relationship and in theory those two are perfectly suited for each other (if we want to analyse their characterizations, but I also think they’re hot together even without complicate reasoning 😂 ). But… I generally feel involved with things that have more background. Farnese somehow showed interest in Guts, that is NOT LOVE obviously and that still perplexes me. I don’t particularly like love triangles and thier pallid imitations just because the plot needs more “spicy things”. The thought of Farnese and Guts doesn’t make sense and is also undermining for Farnese’s growth. Guts is a symbol, a sparkle that Farnese needed in order to break free from her old life. He can’t be anything more, but still, in one of the latest chapters, Farnese got angry at Casca because of Guts’ “man pain” for her. I don’t get this, just like I don’t get Roderick’s permanence. As for Serpico, I agree that he’s really dependant on Farnese, but they grew up like that, like plants in the dark intertwining each other in their desperate seek for light. Serpico had the only purpose of protecting Farnese, because he didn’t knew anything else. Lately he’s showing more emotions and his journey with Guts’ party is giving him a life filled with new experiences. So… I guess he’s changing too, even if we don’t see clearly what he feels (Farnese’s growing process is central right now so it gets a much detailed description). I don’t know, I’m probably biased because I love Farnese and Serpico together in all their creepiness 😂
This leads me to the second main point… I love Griffith’s side a lot too, but Guts’ quest is getting duller and some plot points don’t really make sense to me. Random characters popping out, pirates, sirens, useless brothers, useless and excessive comedy…
So, what I’d like to see? Roderick and Magnifico vanishing into thin air, Casca regaining her sanity, but choosing to be free, thus separating herself from the group, maybe with Farnese and Serpico. Guts needs to master his power, so Shierke is fundamental (I like her tbh). I also want a time skip due to the influx of Elfhem. I wonder if Griffith is still subjected to the aging process and if he can have “normal” children. I want his wedding with charlotte also…
I really want SOMETHING to happen, just like you also said.

PS: making a new post is great idea!

Yeah ikwym I love Farnesca in theory but to be really invested in a ship I need to see them interact (while both are mentally aware). I’m hoping we’ll get some good stuff when Casca comes back.

And wrt Farnese’s crush on Guts, I actually liked seeing it compared to Casca’s crush on Griffith in the lastest chapter. I don’t really mind it, as long as it doesn’t look like it’s going anywhere and is acknowledged as a flaw. Bc yeah to Farnese he really is like a symbol, the same way Griffith was for Casca. tbh I’d like to see their relationship without the unrequited crush, as just a platonic friendship with mutual respect. Maybe in the future we’ll get that.

I do love seeing the subtle hints of how Serpico’s changing too. The way he seems to admire Guts’ bullheaded take on life as opposed to his own go with the flow thing, the way he’s not just protecting Farnese anymore but also sticking his neck out for everyone else in the group, including Guts in some pretty awesome moments, etc. I wouldn’t want Serpico and Farnese to separate tbh, because ia I do like their weird dynamic, but I love seeing both of them develop, together and separately, and I’d love to see more of how that’s reflected in their dynamic with each other too.

I would love Casca regaining her mind and just walking away and doing her own thing ngl. Especially taking Farnese and Serpico with her – idk if Farnese and Schierke would want to separate but I do love the idea of the group splitting up and both doing plot-relevant things, but Casca and Farnese getting a chance to grow as people away from Guts.

And yes, I could totally see a time skip happening and I mostly want it. My one problem with a time skip is I don’t want Sonia to grow up while Schierke remains a kid bc I low-key ship them, but enh, I still want to see what Falconia (and Rickert, and Griffith, and Silat, and Charlotte etc) are all doing a decade from now, so it’d be worth it.

ohhh noooo i got another sad thought: isdoro talking about why he wanted to become a swordsman and he said cus of the band of the hawks raiders captain was wicked strong and he wondered if he’s still out there somewhere. casca looks in Guts direction whiles he’s with serpico and they are looking at bugs and giggling to himself. she says “yeah..i wonder too..” idk it makes sense in my head but i hope i worded it correctly

Yeah it makes sense. 😦 Though now that you mentioned Isidro I think Casca would definitely be a better influence than Guts for him. She’d teach him to not be a little shit asap.