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“i miss when griffith had sharp features and looked more masculine now…”

i think hes meant to look more feminine/pretty/awe inspiring now but you can just say miura exaggerates these features a lot now. like look at casca?

yeah it’s def true that everyone looks like… softer in a way i really dislike. a bunch of people have been pointing it out and it’s super true. tho tbf i think griffith has actually suffered from this the least, he looks the same amount of feminine to me lol. tbh my personal biggest problem with the fantasia art wrt griffith is that he looks half assed and generic now, like a collection of his “pretty” features thown together rather than yk, an interesting drawing of a person

but this is true of everyone, it’s like the backgrounds keep getting more and more detailed while the faces/expressions get more generic. or like… the features are detailed, like look at how he draws eyes in closeups, they just don’t come together in an interesting way anymore

tbh I’ve noticed this in most manga…

In Rurouni Kenshin, the art was theoretically less “good” at first as far as proportions and realism, however, there was a lot more detail, and the style was a lot more lively. By the like idk… second story arc after Shishio was defeated, things get a lot more consistent but also a lot more boring and simplified looking.

I feel it’s the same in Naruto and to some degree in One Piece after the time skips.

I think maybe mangaka start out kind of outdoing themselves trying to make their art the best because they want to make an impression and also are still trying to feel out their style and how to make art look good, then once they get stability, over time they figure out shortcuts and tricks to make the art just look good enough.

I think it also changed a lot I think around elfheim? because I noticed it looks like he switched from using traditional media to digital media, and honestly, if you started out as a traditional artist imo it’s really really really difficult to breathe the same level of life and passion into digital art. For me, at least, it’s like there’s always this extra layer between my brain and the computer that doesn’t exist when I’m using paper. Just my personal theory.

I know next to nothing about art but this all makes sense. I’ve heard some speculation that switching to digital may be hindering him and taking a while to adjust to, and what you said about finding it way more difficult to make digital art feel lively and passionate does rly fit.

ty this is informative tbh

:O I’m glad you liked my thoughts.

To comment also on everyone looking more feminine thing… I think in large part that has to do with the overall trend in anime/manga art  or even in fashion.

In the 80s and early 90s buff people were really in, and over time it’s become less and less so. If you look even at what was considered “moe” back in the 90s vs what is “moe” now you can see a pretty vast difference between how feminine or child-like the characters look. 

I’d cite Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure for example at how massively almost comically buff and chiselled his characters looked in the first story arc, but by the sixth or seventh, the men and women became almost indistinguishable. (this is kind of an extreme example, but Araki-sensei does take an unusual amount of inspiration from fashion I think)

One Piece is also a good example of how “rugged” the characters looked at the beginning vs now.

I think right now, compared to the past 20 years, androgyny and femininity are very in fashion, and that isn’t necessarily a bad thing in of itself, but it influences different artists differently. 

I personally thought Griffith changed the least because he was already weirdly fem looking compared to all the other characters. Miura even stated that Griffith was intentionally based on Shoujo art and story lines (which have always featured androgyny and femininity) whereas Guts was meant to be a typical Shounen/Seinen character. He wanted to combine the charm of the two different styles.

I guess I can’t speak about Casca….but I personally also just lumped her differences into the overall shift in art style…. maybe because she was given less development in general, it feels more jarring?…….