mastermistressofdesire:

bthump:

@mastermistressofdesire​ said:
oh I was going to say
something about how the convincing and cajoling about piling bodies was
seemed mostly intended towards convincing him to sacrifice the non-guts
parts of the band of the hawk. The seeds for wanting Guts gone had
already been planted during the year of torture. It’s just that actually
being surrounded by the real Guts after that kinda made it apparent
that his emotions hadn’t quite caught up to that line of thinking, he
can’t help that being

with Guts again is currently blocking all that out because of simply how amazing and comforting and warm and fluffy it feels
Also I was going to write about some
panels from the post-torture arc which I realised I should actually
complement with pictures so that post is kind of in the works. 

lol so i totally missed this response from however long ago. i wonder if it was when the tumblr activity page was buggy and refusing to load all the way.

but now that i’ve coincidentally happened to see it i just wanted to say yeah! i was actually thinking of adding another paragraph about how it would make sense symbolically that griffith has 2 separate motivations for the sacrifice, one for the band and one for guts, bc it underlines that guts (as several characters kept harping on about) wasn’t even part of the band at that point, and that he’d never actually been a volunteer to die for Griffith’s dream in the first place – his loyalty was won in a duel.

also if you’re still planning on making that post torture post i’d love to read it!

That post is STILL in the works ( damn I have that sort of analytical-block thing you mentioned)

But there was this one thing from that I kind of feel like mentioning.

So that point when right at the beginning of the Eclipse , the existing Godhand are kind of laying out what is to come. Starting there.

So since the moment Guts grabbed Griffith’s shoulder till this point, Griffith’s been kind of listless. He was already past the point of despair when it started and he hasn’t really responded to much since then. The shock is almost like a carryover from his reaction to Guts touching him rather than fresh shock from exclusively the eclipse stuff. In any case his eyes are unfocused, he doesn’t give any reaction to the people shouting, casca barking orders or Guts asking him if he’s alright.

Then Slan basically tells them all that Griffith’s going to become a demon and  they are all going to die and Griffith looks up in shock . He tries to reply for a moment, no sound comes out and then everyone behind them starts whispering and getting scared and he shuts down and goes back to staring at the ground.

This is just what I personally thought but to me, it seemed like he was trying to protest her assertion, but trying to speak simply reminded him of his condition and coupled with the fact that the men (according to him) already believed it, he just sort of gave up thinking ‘what’s the use anyway.’

BUT BUT. Then Guts gets pissed and starts yelling. And screams at the GOdhand for even daring to suggest such a thing. And I looked at Griffith’s face in that panel, he’s looking at Guts with such a wonderstruck and shocked expression.

Let alone that situation, I wonder if Griffith’s ever had someone stand up for him or defend him before. Griffith’s always been about fighting his own battles and standing up for his beliefs and dreams. Whatever he’s needed, he’s done himself.

I honestly think this was the first time anyone had ever openly tried to defend him. You can see it in his face. And you can see it later when the alter is raised and he’s trying to hold on to it, hold on to Guts when he slips.

I think it’s so wonderfully tragic how a single tear, a single sentence from Guts can make Griffith rewrite everything he’s felt till that point.

And even after everything, the fact that he looks shocked at that and just quietly accepting once Guts lets go  -breaks my heart.