mastermistressofdesire:

bthump:

@mastermistressofdesire said:
I kinda second the ending with both of them dead at the end. Nothing else would be quite as fitting.

ikr there’s something so satisfying to me about the idea. maybe bc they have this whole fated enemies vibe.

 Grand fated tragedy is one of the things which makes Berserk so tantalizing to me. I mean to be completely honest I was pretty dissapointed to hear Kentaro Miura’s little quip about not wanting to end Berserk as a complete tragedy because that’s kind of what we’ve been on board for, for a very long time.

 I want an ending which wrecks me, gives me that sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach and yet feels completely intellectually satisfying. The kind of thing which leaves behind a little bit of a void which you then seek desperately to fill with your thoughts and others’.

I want none of that happily ever after, riding off into the sunset to raise his child with Casca bullshit. Like no.

That’s not an ending I mind in itself. I mean I love happily ever afters too. But not in Berserk. Here it would simply be disappointing. On so many levels.

 I don’t want to leave this series with an “Aww. That’s cute, I guess” feeling. Because that’s honestly too freaking mediocre to be anywhere near satisfying.

As to why both need to die together. 

A) Sheer poetry.

B) As long as Griffith is alive, Berserk can not have a conclusion. It can end yes but not with any level of satisfaction or closure.

C) If Griffith dies and Guts lives— a. Guts is doomed to more of an eternity pining after Griffith, which he’s already been doing for the last 30 volumes and would be no conclusion

b. Guts loses all motivation for existing, has nothing pushing him onward and has an emotional cave in, again kind of a terrible conclusion.

c. Guts gets over Griffith and resolves to spend the rest of his life being the perfect family man with all his new—Hahahahahahahhha. AS IF.

P.S.- Casca should definitely not die. She’s been absent from the narrative too long to justify bringing her back just to kill her off or take away her voice again.

@bthump

i just want to second like, all of this

i could see griffith living as a satisfying conclusion depending on how it’s framed – like say a final image of neogriff visually isolated and alone (esp if he still rules the world or w/e) if we learn that he really is still emotionally fucked up over guts – but I still think the most satisfying to me is both dead.

and yeah casca dying would just be… redundant and bad, not even touching on the misogyny. It’s not even that she deserves a nice life, it’s that after everything w/ her character being destroyed I think the most satisfying conclusion for her is a hopeful future.

and tbh i think no matter what i’d prefer if guts dies. after all this business with him being “the struggler” and defying death all his life over and over i think his death could be really powerful and meaningful. being born from a corpse and then defying fate trying to kill you and then living a chill happy family life for 50 years and dying of old age just doesn’t keep that epic vibe going.